Angry about proposed travel ban exemption for footballers

I’d hope the first team in wins the right for a home game....

This gives 2 week lead time..... emininetly achievable especially since there’s limited travel options around Australia.....

60,000 in sees a front-runner, however not made it easy with a no exemptions policy.
25,000 tics with “we made it hard for you to have an SA Hub” but made easy with open borders except to Vic...
35,000 tics with “we bent over backwards to help set up hubs” but thanks for givin a few of our Ressies virus from Melbs, and a traditional rugby state so finding it hard to get anything resembling a crowd
 
I’d hope the first team in wins the right for a home game....

This gives 2 week lead time..... emininetly achievable especially since there’s limited travel options around Australia.....

60,000 in sees a front-runner, however not made it easy with a no exemptions policy.
25,000 tics with “we made it hard for you to have an SA Hub” but made easy with open borders except to Vic...
35,000 tics with “we bent over backwards to help set up hubs” but thanks for givin a few of our Ressies virus from Melbs, and a traditional rugby state so finding it hard to get anything resembling a crowd
If that team is a Victorian one? If restrictions are still in place in SA then South Aussies that might be playing in the game wont be allowed back into SA. But we know our Government will roll over on that requirement where others have been denied return to their families.
 
I’d hope the first team in wins the right for a home game....

While I agree that they should have the ability to do this, if WA retains the 14 day quarantine it makes it impossible for WCE to do this as as you cannot have two week waiting periods and it would also be unfair on the opponent as they cannot train equally.

SA already allows teams to fly in on game day.
 
While I agree that they should have the ability to do this, if WA retains the 14 day quarantine it makes it impossible for WCE to do this as as you cannot have two week waiting periods and it would also be unfair on the opponent as they cannot train equally.

SA already allows teams to fly in on game day.
But only because they have come from Qld or WA.
 
Looks like it will be announced tomorrow....a welcome boost for the Qld Premier

That was the strong rumour this morning and why the head boffins flew to Qld in the last day or so. Just clicked today that its announcement day tomorrow. Qld deserves it.
 
Looks like it will be announced tomorrow....a welcome boost for the Qld Premier


It would make sense that they announce it tomorrow if it is Qld as tomorrow Sep 1st is the last scheduled AFL hub flight to Qld and is the last flight this H&A for club officials, families of players and AFL Officials. Gil the AFL CEO was announced a while back to also be travelling up on this flight. So lots of photo opps to link with the announcement. ie Gary Ablett Jnr flying back in.

To be part of the AFL Bubble all of this group have to travel in and enter special quarantine arrangements as AFL staff cannot just travel on normal flights if they want to interact with those in the AFL Bubble. They need to stay together at a selected hotel and only after 14 days can disperse to each club bubble. Gil may of course have changed his mind and plans and stay outside the AFL bubble.
 
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If that team is a Victorian one? If restrictions are still in place in SA then South Aussies that might be playing in the game wont be allowed back into SA. But we know our Government will roll over on that requirement where others have been denied return to their families.
Of course they will be allowed back in @Pushka - footballers are so exemplary in their behaviour that they deserve an exemption ;). Bad luck for you though if you want to go watch your team play - I suspect there will be no such exemption for you!
 
That was the strong rumour this morning and why the head boffins flew to Qld in the last day or so. Just clicked today that its announcement day tomorrow. Qld deserves it.

Yes thank god we allowed 400 more AFL staff, officials and players in yesterday - we made sure they got their exemptions processed in a timely manner, it’s clearly an urgent priority and no time could be wasted in this critical process, so proud of my state government for their efficiency here.

It appears that we have updated our slogan ‘Queeensland football stadiums are only for Queenslanders'
(correction: Anyone who can pay us $$ and win our premier an election)

Apologies to those waiting for health related, compassionate exemptions, trying to save your business exemptions.
 
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Yes thank god we allowed 400 more AFL staff, officials and players in yesterday - we made sure they got their exemptions processed in a timely manner, it’s clearly an urgent priority and no time could be wasted in this critical process, so proud of my state government for their efficiency here.

It appears that we have updated our slogan ‘Queeensland football stadiums are for Queenslanders (correction: Anyone who can pay us $$ and win our premier an election)

Apologies to those waiting for health related, compassionate exemptions
Apparently there are over 2000 AFL entities in Qld right now. Of course some include the players.

This hypocrisy of exempting so called important people has become the biggest issue with me now following all the rules other than those which I consider to make sense (I do come from a conservative approach though). TV personalities, Sports people, blah blah. All States have done this, it isnt a Lib/Lab thing. All the while we let cases of genuine medical or hardship needs just put in the cold.
 
Apparently there are over 2000 AFL entities in Qld right now. Of course some include the players.

This hypocrisy of exempting so called important people has become the biggest issue with me now following all the rules other than those which I consider to make sense (I do come from a conservative approach though). TV personalities, Sports people, blah blah. All States have done this, it isnt a Lib/Lab thing. All the while we let cases of genuine medical or hardship needs just put in the cold.
It was the hypocrisy and inequity of the whole thing that prompted me to start this thread @Pushka. I feel very much as you do - it makes me question why I need to abide by petty rules when other people are just constantly given free kicks. It's not that I hate footy as such, just that the sense of injustice burns me.
 
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Apparently there are over 2000 AFL entities in Qld right now. Of course some include the players.

This hypocrisy of exempting so called important people has become the biggest issue with me now following all the rules other than those which I consider to make sense (I do come from a conservative approach though). TV personalities, Sports people, blah blah. All States have done this, it isnt a Lib/Lab thing.

Firstly are we really talking about "important" people, or are we really talking about industry segments?


I don't think that you can really lump them into the one category.

As far as I am aware the TV personalities (ie Dannir, Nicole Kidman), and only a few, managed to gain permission to quarantine at home provided they paid the cost and met other provisions. But this was only for the period of the quarantine. After the 14 days they have to follow the same rules as other people in the state that they are in. Should they have been able to do this. Well I think that this is one criteria and can be argued to be "unfair".

The Simonds Homes magnate who inappropriately entered Qld, and who also stopped at various NSW ports along the way is quite rightly being dealt with and is the subject of a criminal investigation.


However if it genuinely about work for a particular industry, then to my way of thinking it is an entirely different matter.

In Vic all in the media (and most likely in all states) qualified for work under stage 4 as long as they met Covidsafe requirements , and while much was made of The Masked Singer, Vaudrey a manufacturing business with the same exemption, but which had a much higher number of cases at 44, no one batted an eyelid about.

Should the media restrictions be tighter? Well I think that is a reasonable argument one can make. But to just wipe it because some of the workers being famous I do not believe is valid.


Also what is an exemption in terms of it being more generous?

With the AFL, NRL, Netball, soccer bubbles the people involved (including family members) have to stay within the bubble and meet strict conditions including being tested for CV19 twice a week. They cannot just follow the general restrictions of the state they are residing in. They cannot mix with people outside of the bubble, or enjoy non-bubble activities unless they are run in particular ways. They cannot go in and out of it without 14 day quarantine each time

While the life of these sporting people may sound glamorous, they have had to surrender personal freedoms that others in the same state do not have to do it. Many have to live apart from partners and friends, including pregnant partners.


All the while we let cases of genuine medical or hardship needs just put in the cold.

I don't thing one wrong becomes a reason to make other wrongs. I think we need to strive to improve all things where it can reasonably be done so.

ie I personally think the whole "border bubble towns" issue has been handled very poorly.


WA made special arrangements for FIFO to help keep the mining industry going. Very sensible in my opinion. One reason why FIFO, Sport, Construction and other industries have been allowed to continue is that the private second can fund the cost of the measures required. Those in the public glare have followed the measures. Unfortunately some such as abattoirs have not. So the out of site industries have been a bigger problem that those in the public gaze.

I know that many disagree but I believe the AFL, NRL, Netball, soccer bubbles are just part of an industry that has been allowed to continue provided struct rules were adhered too and that is has benefits for all Australians and not just those who like sport.

And no Joe-public fans like myself cannot just pop interstate to watch a game, but then those outside of Vic we are also not living in CV19 bubbles getting tested twice each week. And ones in Vic like myself are completely non-gratis.
 
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However if it genuinely about work for a particular industry, then to my way of thinking it is an entirely different matter.
Particular industries is the salient point. Most never qualified in SA definitions as essential and even then some medical and educational related travel was excluded, as were Farmers and FIFO. And having been the spouse of a past professional sports person, Covid hasnt changed anything with respect to being apart for weeks because it is only in the last few years that sporting associations even wanted to acknowledge that players even had a life apart from the sport they played. And that was also well before the period of social media that allowed easy contact. However, currently it isnt the players that I am discussing with respect to different rules on this occasion but those administrators etc who in SA, were given exemptions to come to SA from Victoria and bypass all the iso requirements.
 
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Particular industries is the salient point. Most never qualified in SA definitions as essential including medical and educational. Farmers. FIFO. And having been the spouse of a past professional sports person, Covid hasnt changed anything with respect to being apart for weeks because it is only in the last few years that sporting associations even wanted to acknowledge that players even had a life apart from the sport they played. And that was also well before the period of social media that allowed easy contact. However, currently it isnt the players that I am discussing with respect to different rules on this occasion but those administrators etc who in SA, were given exemptions to come to SA from Victoria and bypass all the iso requirements.

Particular industries is the salient point. Yes 100% agree. Particular industries is the most necessary point.
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I don't qualify either as a particular industries and by business is down 99% since March. Ouch! But I don't begrudge those industries that can fund their continuing.

Plus the Australian Government loves the income and company tax, and WA probably loves the mining royalties. The public at large should love that our ecomomy can be as active as possible.

So you need industries that can:
  • can operate with minimal mixing. So yes mining, construction, sport with no or minimal crowds, etc.
  • can generate tax revenue (after all Jobseeker, Jobkeeper has to be funded by somehow)
  • can generate significant employment
  • can meet the costs of operating (Though ScoMo has also subsidised international freight for the fishing industry)
Blessed are the industries that can have their employees work from home.

I need to have public freely moving, and interstate travel.. So naddda for me. But I welcome those who can safely work being able to do so.
 
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Not sure if captured upthread, but The Gabba (Brisbane) confirmed and announced as the venue of the 2020 AFL Grand Final with Adelaide Oval nominated as back up venue.


LOL oh it was most definitely covered way way way upthread and all the way down it too 😂

We are so very pleased here in QLD a key plank of Anna's election campaign the AFL grand final has been secured and happy its been such a priority for our government :rolleyes:
 
LOL oh it was most definitely covered way way way upthread and all the way down it too 😂

We are so very pleased here in QLD a key plank of Anna's election campaign the AFL grand final has been secured and happy its been such a priority for our government :rolleyes:
I thought given todays news it rather "rich" that a community near the border had a devastating fire last night and now a grocery trip is over a 100 ks as the only store and butchers were destroyed. When asked if she would make an exception to those impacted she laughed and said no. Wasnt Gil in Melbourne yesterday......
 
I thought given todays news it rather "rich" that a community near the border had a devastating fire last night and now a grocery trip is over a 100 ks as the only store and butchers were destroyed.

Catch up won't you :cool: Queensland retailers are for Queenslanders, we aren't interested in money from anywhere else - we'd rather live in the gutter.
 
Im on a break in Byron Bay so havent been across the news as much as I would ifat home,but just saw a snippet on channel 9 news saying AP is allowing 100s of AFL officials and fans to fly from Melbourne to Brisbane for AFL grand final without needing to quarantine, yet Northern Rivers (Lismore, Ballina, Byron) residents are denied entry for medicsl treatment even though tbere are no activeCovid cases tbere.

I know AP has an election to win, but if its true it is abhorrent to deny specialist medical treatment to those living in low risk areas within 40mins drive of the border, but somehow think footy fans are safer - what a joke!

AP continually fails to work with or consult GB and it isnt just a difference in parties ,as DA is labor but has worked with GB.

It would seem very odd that footy fans would be allowed to fly to Qld without going through quarantine. (Well as of today..who knows what will be the case on 24 Oct).

I am Melbourne based and so I did not see the Byron Bay Edition of CH9 news.

I did watch the Melbourne CH9 story and it did not reference allowing 100s of AFL officials and fans to fly from Melbourne to Brisbane for AFL grand final without needing to quarantine. It did reference as part of the Grand Final announcement story the 400 officials and their families who landed on the Gold Coast late yesterday including Gil McLachlan the AFL CEO, who brought with him the premiership cup with him. All 400 of these people entered a special 14 day quarantine, which is why the footage of Gil today was from the quarantine site.

I have since read a number of reports on the Grand Final announcement and none that I yet read have that AP is allowing 100s of AFL officials and fans to fly from Melbourne to Brisbane for AFL grand final without needing to quarantine.

It may be that either CH9 Byron misreported. Or then again it may actually be so in which case I assume that it will eventually show up in a news report that someone can link.
 
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