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JohnK said:
I didn't say they were honourable.

You cannot do something that is not honourable and then justify it by saying the English did the same thing. That's not how integrity works.

And @drron it's quite clear that Bairstow was not running nor trying to sneak a run. He was heading down to speak to Stokes.
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Except the photo shows he was within the crease when Carey threw the ball. Possibly that's why the umpire didn't call over.

Now I was a very ordinary cricketer but I learnt that you didn't move out of your crease until the umpire called over. And I usually turned around and looked behind to see where the ball was. Bairstow made a rookie mistake.
 
And we did not see Duckett turn back to the umpire and say "Mitchell Starc caught me cleanly and while the third umpire found a rule by which I can technically continue batting, in the spirit of the game I'll walk off now", now did he? The England team were very thankful that the rules of cricket were applied to that non-catch, so why should the rules of cricket not be applied to a run-out?

The Aussies accepted the umpires decision regarding Stac's non-catch. Its time for the English to accept the rules of cricket apply equally to them.

2:0
 
JohnK said:
Just because someone tried or did the same thing does not make it an honourable thing to do. Far from it.

This no different to a Mankad.

Or an underarm delivery.

Just imagine the Australian cricket team with honesty and integrity. Nah. Not possible. The right thing to do would have been to withdraw the appeal or even recall Bairstow.

And its not about playing to win at all costs. If that's what it boils down to then it's a very sad state of affairs and its time to pull up stumps in this simulation and start again. We may get it right next time but I'm not holding my breath.
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Carey released the ball immediately. The ball was live.
One can't be out stumped with the keeper standing back?
If it was a spinner and Bairstow wandered out to find a pie, and the bails were whipped off, is that ok?
Cheats lol give me a break. Every keeper in the world does it
 
A simple analogy would be if an outfielder had thrown the ball in and Bairstow wandered out of his crease after the ball was thrown and then the ball hit the wickets. Run out rather than stumped but still out.
 
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The hypocracy of the POMS with this "Spirit of Cricket" nonsense has reached histerical heights, almost to the level of politicians.

Must be time for the MCC to change the rules to prevent any reoccurrance and stop these upperty colonials from winning test matches against the team with the three lions!
 
TheRealTMA said:
The hypocracy of the POMS has reached histerical heights, almost to the level of politicians.

MUst be time for the MCC to change the rules to prevent any reoccurrance and stop these upperty colonials from winning test matches against the team with the three lions!
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Not "almost" UK PM Sunak has chimed in about 'the spirit of cricket'.

www.abc.net.au

UK PM attacks Australia over controversial Ashes moment

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak backs up the England cricket team in their complaints about the dismissal of Jonny Bairstow.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
OZDUCK said:
Not "almost" UK PM Sunak has chimed in about 'the spirit of cricket'.

www.abc.net.au

UK PM attacks Australia over controversial Ashes moment

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak backs up the England cricket team in their complaints about the dismissal of Jonny Bairstow.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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Yes, the less said about the UK PM the better. Cheap political point scoring after miserable election results with a by-election coming up where the conservative majority of 24000 is expected to be swept away just like the complaints about the stumping.

But to make the post non-political :) -

"Anthony Albanese has weighed into the row over the Jonny Bairstow stumping at Lord’s on Sunday, responding to claims from his British counterpart that Australia had trashed the spirit of the game. “Same old Aussies – always winning!” the Prime Minister said in a tweet, invoking cries of English fans at Lord’s that Aussies are “always cheating”.

“I’m proud of our men’s and women’s cricket teams, who have both won their opening two Ashes matches against England.”
 
JohnK said:
I didn't say they were honourable.

You cannot do something that is not honourable and then justify it by saying the English did the same thing. That's not how integrity works.

And @drron it's quite clear that Bairstow was not running nor trying to sneak a run. He was heading down to speak to Stokes.
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Just to be clear - you're saying that the Australian team aren't honourable and no integrity but are you saying the English team are OK?
 
Pushka said:
I like the take from news.com.au

"While even the most ardent critic had to admit it was within the rules, the call soon became all about the “Spirit of Cricket”.

At the best of times, the “Spirit of Cricket” has become a wishy-washy term that is used in any controversial moment, even if it’s within the rules, as a way to justify getting fired up.
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How the game has changed since AB departed 30 years ago. Tough but fair.

We need spirit back in cricket. Gilchrist tried to lead the way.

Also I really don't understand how England are favourites or even expected to win even on home soil. They are going to get smashed with 42 year old and 38 year old bowlers.
 
I think Stokes has handled himself well and some of the interviews I've seen he has been measured in his responses and has a good sense of humour. I don't like the front page of the West Australian newspaper West australia.jpg
 
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VPS said:
Just to be clear - you're saying that the Australian team aren't honourable and no integrity but are you saying the English team are OK?
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Not at all. They're not ok but that's not the point.
 
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Oh bloody hell. Piers Morgan has now got involved.
🤮

If you can't read it this is the best bit

My late, great Aussie friend Shane Warne, who played his cricket hard but fair, had a phrase for this kind of sharp practice.

He’d have called it ‘pretty ordinary.’

And for Warnie, there was nothing worse in the world than for sportsmen to show ‘pretty ordinary’ bad sportsmanship.

He’s right – there isn’t. It’s even worse than losing.

It’s hard to define exactly what constitutes ‘the spirit of the game’ but most sports fans know when they see it abused.
 
VPS said:
Oh bloody hell. Piers Morgan has now got involved.
🤮

If you can't read it this is the best bit

My late, great Aussie friend Shane Warne, who played his cricket hard but fair, had a phrase for this kind of sharp practice.

He’d have called it ‘pretty ordinary.’

And for Warnie, there was nothing worse in the world than for sportsmen to show ‘pretty ordinary’ bad sportsmanship.

He’s right – there isn’t. It’s even worse than losing.

It’s hard to define exactly what constitutes ‘the spirit of the game’ but most sports fans know when they see it abused.
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Yes. But usual same old drivel from him. Invoking Warne to his pov is appalling. And completely ignoring the self-acknowledged cheat, Broad.:)
 

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