Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[HappyFlyerFamily]

It doesn't go down well in Victoria where we went in early, went in hard, and limited the lockdown to two weeks. 'Gold standard' NSW is going for a third week and gets all sorts of benefits such as Centrelink payments, even for those with savings.

Are you still in your 'me v them' or 'State v State' bubble???

Gold standard contact tracing was the reference and over the past 40 hours (8pm the day before to say a 10am deadline for media report publishing purposes) NSW got through contract tracing of all 50 cases.

How do we know this? 50 local case - 13 isolating while infectious, 11 partially isolating while infectious and 26 infectious in the community.

Strap up for 100 case per day next week

 

[justinbrett]

Are you still in your 'me v them' or 'State v State' bubble???

Gold standard contact tracing was the reference and over the past 40 hours (8pm the day before to say a 10am deadline for media report publishing purposes) NSW got through contract tracing of all 50 cases.

How do we know this? 50 local case - 13 isolating while infectious, 11 partially isolating while infectious and 26 infectious in the community.

Strap up for 100 case per day next week

Also this was brought up last year when Queensland refused to open the borders, when some suggested he take jobkeeper off Queensland residents if the QLD government was causing the issue.

He said "why would we penalise a citizen for the actions of their government that they have no control over?"

So just because NSW handled it differently the way some would have liked, that doesn't mean that NSW residents shouldn't receive support from the federal government. I believe the new rules are for all states, not just NSW. I'm sure the same would have happened if Melbourne's lockdown extended past two weeks.

 

[hydrabyss]

Well regional NSW are locked out of Greater Sydney, even here in Newcastle we can't go to the Central Coast unless it's for an essential reason (the northern part of the Central Coast is much more closely aligned to Newcastle / Hunter than it is to Sydney). But they had to draw the line somewhere.

Kerry Chant said today that Greater Sydney residents leaving to the regions now have to be covid tested before departure.

My partner lives on the Central Coast but works in aged care in what is classified as Regional NSW for the lock down. I have one suburb that separates me from the Regional NSW area where I have a storage unit for my business. But then you have many around here that travel to Sydney area for work.

 

[Pete98765432]

Gold standard contact tracing was the reference and over the past 40 hours (8pm the day before to say a 10am deadline for media report publishing purposes) NSW got through contract tracing of all 50 cases.

How do we know this? 50 local case - 13 isolating while infectious, 11 partially isolating while infectious and 26 infectious in the community.

That only means they've completed the initial interviews of the 50 cases, not that they've got through the tracing of the contacts of the 37 cases that were in the community while infectious.

NOTE: This is NOT a criticism of the contact tracing.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

That only means they've completed the initial interviews of the 50 cases, not that they've got through the tracing of the contacts of the 37 cases that were in the community while infectious.

NOTE: This is NOT a criticism of the contact tracing.

Yes, 'got through' was using more lay-language then being specific. Contact tracing requires multiple interviews over multiple days.

NSW contract tracers have measures for:
- local cases interviewed by public health within 1 day of notification of positive case
- close contacts (identified by the case) contacted by public health within 48 hours of notification

A lot of the close contacts are being identified upfront.

I just hope its just 37 and without additional people to more fully trace because they lied (as was media reported/suggested).

PS It is getting difficult since Delta's fleeting contact is not usually classed as close contact.

 

[bcworld]

I just hope its just 37 and without additional people to more fully trace because they lied (as was media reported/suggested).

Well in the areas where cases are rising most quickly, the CHO said that after an initial bounce testing levels have dropped. This likely means there are some to many unidentified cases in the community.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Well in the areas where cases are rising most quickly, the CHO said that after an initial bounce testing levels have dropped. This likely means there are some to many unidentified cases in the community.

Yes and no.

Testing is partly about the message getting out, partly about where the exposure sites have been, partly about symptom testing and partly about close contact testing.

Almost all of the cases have been linked, so its not really about 2020-style mystery cases (so far?!?!)

 

[jakeseven7]

That only means they've completed the initial interviews of the 50 cases, not that they've got through the tracing of the contacts of the 37 cases that were in the community while infectious.

NOTE: This is NOT a criticism of the contact tracing.

No contact tracing would have been able to keep up with the amount of casual contacts this is now generating and the fact people are lying to them. Apparently VIC and SA are now assisting NSW contact trading which is nice to see. I believe NSW/VIC CRM’s are linked.

 

[justinbrett]

I believe NSW/VIC CRM’s are linked.

They're all supposed to be - the federal government was responsible for that, not sure if all the links are operational, but makes sense to link VIC & NSW first due to the population sizes

 

[lovetravellingoz]

There are other options. Allow entry to the trades only. Click 'n' collect. It's been done before.

Yes Vic have had various iterations including this one. Or the much lighter wear a mask.



It really depends on how much the authorities want to slow down spread, and how urgent it is to do so.


The same with construction, though that has had various settings in Victoria during lockdowns.

The all-site and all workforce had to shut setting (except for some staff due to safety issues) only being used when spread was rampant.

At other times, settings have have included limits of workforce per site (this too has varied), and working with masks etc. So construction slowed down rather than stopped.

There has had times also been different settings for residential vs commercial sites.


It all gets back to the more people mix, the more likely spread will keep bubbling along.

But yes construction can be, though is not always, a lower risk work setting than many. However having said that with these more infectious strains and fleeting transmission this may now not be the case.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Well think of an older gentleman who's not internet savvy but handy around the home has a plumbing emergency - and needs to buy some parts.

He then either calls Reece or Bunnings etc, or calls a plumber.

In one of the lockdowns one of my pressure limiting valve under my kitchen sink suddenly failed (water squirting out rapidly). I had to turn the water off at the meter, and so I had to replace the valve swiftly. I just called Reece to get the right part and then picked it up.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Clearly a slow news day, ABC Covid blog just closing now (3:15pm)

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Clearly a slow news day, ABC Covid blog just closing now (3:15pm)

They may all want to attend/watch the Richmond v Collingwood Game

 

[SydneySwan]

They may all want to attend/watch the Richmond v Collingwood Game

That match is on tomorrow. More likely ABC cutting back on overtime.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Interesting poll on news.com.au (I guess open to all readers in Australia and overseas

How long should Sydney lockdown last?
21% end it now
9% July 16, the date it is set to end
29% keep extending it by a week until authorities are happy
41% when we hit zero cases

over 70,000 votes

 

[Milboo]

General consensus within my friends is that construction/ tradies should not be working, except emergency work. In the last week there have been about a dozen different tradie vehicles just in a single lane way. The issue is that it is multiple people working one one site, who’ve all come in from different locations, co mingle on site and who then use the local cafes etc.

Its way more movement around Sydney than necessary

 

[ellen10]

Across the road from my son and daughterinlaw a big house is being built ( we are in Wollongong).
Today the kitchen company arrived from Sydney for installation. A band of 5 workers arrived 3 of them in one vehicle and two others in a big truck. I thought we weren't allowed to share rides?

 

[hydrabyss]

General consensus within my friends is that construction/ tradies should not be working, except emergency work. In the last week there have been about a dozen different tradie vehicles just in a single lane way. The issue is that it is multiple people working one one site, who’ve all come in from different locations, co mingle on site and who then use the local cafes etc.

Its way more movement around Sydney than necessary

I don't want to even think what the financial cost would be if too many things stop.

 

[clifford]

I don't want to even think what the financial cost would be if too many things stop.

The cost will be higher if they don't stop.

Has no one learnt that lesson yet?

 

[I love to travel]

The cost will be higher if they don't stop.

Has no one learnt that lesson yet?

Including human and health costs not just $$$