Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[N860CR]

Sadly, a likely outcome of the criminalisation of COVID and the mob mentality that each "spreader" becomes victim of. These people are very sick, remember, with a deadly virus. But that seems to get forgotten.

 

[moa999]

I think the other part of the equation of a stricter lockdown is financial assistance.

But also what is a stricter lockdown?

Curfew, 5km radius, no retail shops (that are 90% empty anyway) makes minimal difference versus what NSW has presently imho.

While you still have essential work going on
- like the meat works cluster in Vic
- all the construction sites
- childcare etc (you can mix with 15 other families kids, but can't see your cousins on the weekends)
- tradesman, cleaners etc

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

But also what is a stricter lockdown?

Curfew, 5km radius, no retail shops (that are 90% empty anyway) makes minimal difference versus what NSW has presently imho.

While you still have essential work going on
- like the meat works cluster in Vic
- all the construction sites
- childcare etc (you can mix with 15 other families kids, but can't see your cousins on the weekends)
- tradesman, cleaners etc

The only person/authority whose answer matters is NSW Health perhaps influenced by the NSW Premier.

It’s difficult to know when the blame is apparently on large family gatherings (which I hesitate to believe is completely true). It’s not clear how many are getting covid despite following the rules, how many are in a job that was 50/50 in terms of being ‘essential’. That drilled down information is unclear.

To be blunt, it seems the lowest common denominator of the moving epicenter has not been catered for, which mean rules may or may not be followed.

Case numbers are increasing and % of non-isolating is not really changing [Note it did move favorably for 3-4 days after about 7 days of lockdown, but has worsen since. I suspect this coincides with the move of the epicenter.]

A citywide lockdown has challenges because there are people in the following groups:
1) they are currently complying (and have no immediate risk eg live in an area with less than 5 case and no exposure site)
2) they are currently complying but have an immediate risk
3) they are not complying but have no immediate risk
4) they are not complying but have an immediate risk
the rules need to made to cater for the lowest common denominator but there will be backlash from groups 1 and ironically 3.

Edit: why did Melbourne eventually accept stricter lockdown conditions? Pretty much everyone were in groups 2 and 4.

2nd edit: and if an authority is seeking 0 cases of non-isolating while infectious, then it needs to know how each case of non-isolating while infectious came about (and/or passed on the infection). Its definitely not 100% large household gatherings because authorities has also mentioned going to work while mildly symptomatic.

Another equation is: household gatherings + mildly infectious while out legally (for the 4 reasons) + non-symptomatic while out legally and comparing it to the number of non-isolating while infectious. Presumably this number is not 100%, because NSW authorities are seemingly pursuing a Police presence-dominant strategy. If its 100%, then NSW Health probably needs to start re-thinking what is essential. To modify a common saying - if it happens the first time, shame on you; if it happens a second time, shame on me - and let's all hope it doesn't get to a point that it happen a third time.

 

[jakeseven7]

Phew good news - all 3 cases were isolating and not at risk to community.

I see the dodgy removalists from Sydney have now coughed up a couple of exposure sites…. I wonder if SA got any out of them too??

Let’s hope not much comes of that for VIC and SA.

 

[MelMel]

Well, there are exposure sites now listed for Craigieburn that don't seem to align with the departure of the removalists.

The Craigieburn family returned on the 4th and 8th July. The visit to Coles Craigieburn was for over an hour on the 10th. Oddly enough (but also good) it appears they used the QR code as exposure time starts at 5:28pm. Did they not understand what quarantining means?

 

[jakeseven7]

But also what is a stricter lockdown?

Curfew, 5km radius, no retail shops (that are 90% empty anyway) makes minimal difference versus what NSW has presently imho.

While you still have essential work going on
- like the meat works cluster in Vic
- all the construction sites
- childcare etc (you can mix with 15 other families kids, but can't see your cousins on the weekends)
- tradesman, cleaners etc

Do NSW have surveillance testing in place yet like VIC put in for high risk essential worker meat works / food production sites etc?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

So 4 people from a NSW Red Zone travel on their 34m boat to attend the rugby (Australia v France) on the Gold Coast.

$4000 fine each.

 

[jase05]

Something doesn’t add up to me


Authorities are working out whether South Australian petrol stations should be declared exposure sites, after they were visited by a team of removalists infected with Covid-19.

One of the three workers was working in SA when he was notified he was a close contact of a Sydney case.

SA deputy chief public health officer Dr Emily Kirkpatrick said the workers immediately returned home, stopping at petrol stations along the way.

“We need to then look through that CCTV footage, get a better history around exactly what was occurring,” she told ABC Radio Adelaide.

“We know that people do pull across to the side of the road, some people go into the building, it really depends on what their activity has been.”

She said the man had been asymptomatic when he was notified he was a close contact, and was aware of his requirement not to come into contact with the public.

The removalists, who had been in SA to move a family’s belongings to McLaren Vale, isolated and submitted for testing on their return to New South Wales.

Two of the three have now tested positive to Covid-19, one with the Delta strain.

They visited SA on Friday after staying overnight in Melbourne on Thursday, where a number of exposure sites have been declared and an apartment block has been plunged into lockdown.

Victoria’s Covid-19 commander, Jeroen Weimar, revealed his teams had “slightly different messages from the individuals about exactly what they did” in SA as they investigated if they “complied” with restrictions in their essential travel permits.

Victoria Health said their ongoing interviews were “proving complex and challenging”.

Their employer has provided fuel cards and trip logbooks, while contact tracers are using other methods to prove their movements.

Mr Stevens also announced new Sydney travel restrictions amid concerns with the Bondi cluster and flagged new testing requirements on freight or truck drives from Thursday.

 

[jakeseven7]

The Craigieburn family returned on the 4th and 8th July. The visit to Coles Craigieburn was for over an hour on the 10th. Oddly enough (but also good) it appears they used the QR code as exposure time starts at 5:28pm. Did they not understand what quarantining means?

I really hope they don’t stuff it up for all the other Victorians trying to get home from NSW…. As this may trigger a full hard border with NSW….

Clearly we are seeing a lot of lax attitudes to quarantine, isolation, what is essential work, rule breaking etc etc all over Australia.

People are over it, which would be fine if we weren’t dead last in the vaccine race (oh sorry not a race..) …. I actually expect non-compliance to just keep increasing as vaccination rates increase because people feel much safer and will demand different rules / flout existing ones…

 

[bcworld]

Case reported in Goulburn, NSW (regional)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1414734550110924812

 

[jakeseven7]

So 4 people from a NSW Red Zone travel on their 34m boat to attend the rugby (Australia v France) on the Gold Coast.

$4000 fine each.

Yea and as a result tune in into QLD presser at 10am and watch them use this to install a hard border again.

I heard it was 12k each! Must have misheard.

 

[Lynda2475]

for high risk essential worker meat works / food production sites etc

Have you seen these mentioned as places of transmission? The main workplaces so far highlighted have been distribution (the ocean seafood truck drivers), immigration services and medical centers (and one worker at Ikea).

Did they not understand what quarantining means?

No one can genuinely claim that sort of ignorance 18+months into the pandemic, they are choosing to break the rules.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Case reported in Goulburn, NSW (regional)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1414734550110924812

I wonder what type of "essential" worker it will be.

 

[jase05]

I wonder what type of "essential" worker it will be.

Builder at the hospital I believe

 

[jakeseven7]

Two new local cases in Brisbane, both in isolation (well we know everyone’s definition of this is flexible )

Still 3000 people in QLD in home iso.

Our health minister said our economy is fully operating. Clearly she hasn’t spoken to the tourism and hospitality industry recently…

AP best line: If you are anywhere in NSW come home now. Dr Young is monitoring Sydney’s sewage every day ( I’m sorry that line was hilarious, we know she will never win a public speaking award but the images that conjures up is hilarious!!)

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Three new cases in Queensland

NSW's number of new COVID cases below 100, but that's no reason to relax, Premier says

The NSW Premier warns "one day is not a trend" as today's number of new COVID-19 cases comes in below 100. She says the number needs to get "close to zero".

www.abc.net.au

 

[jase05]

Two new local cases in Brisbane, both in isolation (apparently )

Day 12 tests in ISO apparently

 

[lovetravellingoz]

The main workplaces so far highlighted have been distribution (the ocean seafood truck drivers), immigration services and medical centers (and one worker at Ikea).

A hairdressers has caused a major cluster.

Other workplaces include aged care, hospitals, Club Marconi Office area.

And of course many workplaces have been transmission sites CBA Bank. Virgin, Cafes, Pubs, Shopping Centres etc......

 

[SydneySwan]

Yea and as a result tune in into QLD presser at 10am and watch them use this to install a hard border again.

I heard it was 12k each! Must have misheard.

A hard sea border perhaps? Will the Queensland navy be out on patrol now?

 

[bcworld]

Today's leak has NSW numbers back under 100.

 

[Lynda2475]

A hairdressers has caused a major cluster.

The hairdressers was prior to lockdown, hairdressers arent open now, so no seed to do special surveillance. Nor are clubs or pubs

Perhaps instead of trying to find exceptions all the time, you can read the context of the conversation which was about high risk essential workplaces.

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Today's leak has NSW numbers back under 100.

Hope that is true, as I will win todays work covid lotto. All my colleagues betting on higher numbers, I predicted a reduction albeit not a very big one.