Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[hydrabyss]

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Or NSW comes up with its own list.

Letting the employer decide also means that every self-employed person decides whether their work/trip is essential or not. Which based on all the posts on tradies on this forum, and on twitter, would indicate that they are erring on the side of work as normal as they can.

It also really allows virtually anyone to tell the police if pulled up that they are an essential worker.

The more people mix, the more the virus can jump from person to person.

So it really gets down to how much NSW Health and NSW Gov wants to reduce the level of mixing.

I find it a tough one to decide as everyone will be different. Some will say it is easy but if you rely on your income and without it may lose what has taken you years to buildup that's not an easy decision to make.

Looking at the numbers they are predicting it will cost half a billion per week in financial help for as long as the lock down goes. Not sure if any mention has been made on what percentage of the work force and businesses are effected though.

 

[hydrabyss]

No simple answer. Both ways have disadvantages and can be hard to enforce or interpret.

And NSW Police are checking.. from a post on Whirlpool forums that ended in some anti-police posts.

Just yesterday my partner asked me about a letter she was given last year from the aged care centre she works in case she was pulled over. I told her you wont need it but now am thinking it may not hurt. Plus she has to travel out of the lock down zone by one suburb.

 

[drron]

Remember these when someone tells you there hasn't been transmission in <some setting>.

Something afoot on the Sunny Coast? (The new updates are over 2 weeks ago so probably nothing).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1414862967602966532

Well I am expecting a problem for the Sunshine Coast but did not expect it until later this week.4 NRL teams plus hangers on and family to be based there.

Coast to play host as NRL relocates due to outbreak

The Sunshine Coast will help host teams and games as the NRL shifts 12 clubs out of NSW and the ACT and into South-East Queensland. The dramatic move, forced by NSW’s escalating COVID-19 situation, has been locked in for at least a month. The NRL will reschedule 23 games originally booked in for...

www.sunshinecoastnews.com.au

Mrsdrron tells me that the nightly news says one will be accommadation right near the Kawana shopping centre.Now with family including children what could possibly go wrong.
The teams are expected to arrive by tomorrow,Wednesday,so possible sounds of border slamming shut on Thursday.

She also tells me that on the news was a statement from QLD police that they are using numberplate recognition on cars crossing the border.Might mean if you have recently driven into QLD and AP announces a lockout of al NSW backdated a week or so you may find yourself being forced to isolate.

And on our news a party with Sydney jockeys in QLD meant to be isolating on July 8th.Given a warning by police even though AP answering a question about sportspeople getting exemptions said they are all told of the need for isolation when they arrive.

 

[antycbr]

Well I am expecting a problem for the Sunshine Coast but did not expect it until later this week.4 NRL teams plus hangers on and family to be based there.

Coast to play host as NRL relocates due to outbreak

The Sunshine Coast will help host teams and games as the NRL shifts 12 clubs out of NSW and the ACT and into South-East Queensland. The dramatic move, forced by NSW’s escalating COVID-19 situation, has been locked in for at least a month. The NRL will reschedule 23 games originally booked in for...

www.sunshinecoastnews.com.au

Mrsdrron tells me that the nightly news says one will be accommadation right near the Kawana shopping centre.Now with family including children what could possibly go wrong.
The teams are expected to arrive by tomorrow,Wednesday,so possible sounds of border slamming shut on Thursday.

She also tells me that on the news was a statement from QLD police that they are using numberplate recognition on cars crossing the border.Might mean if you have recently driven into QLD and AP announces a lockout of al NSW backdated a week or so you may find yourself being forced to isolate.

And on our news a party with Sydney jockeys in QLD meant to be isolating on July 8th.Given a warning by police even though AP answering a question about sportspeople getting exemptions said they are all told of the need for isolation when they arrive.

The wives might be there to stop the adult dancers getting invited back to the hotel like Jai Arrow did…

 

[TheRealTMA]

The wives might be there to stop the adult dancers getting invited back to the hotel like Jai Arrow did…

News report today. Hillarious, but be very worried if you live on the Sunshine Coast!

NRL great PAUL GALLEN …

“The players who are headed to the NRL's Queensland bubble for at least a month are only human beings. You've got to remember that.

To be stuck in a bubble with nothing but men around you, if you're a single bloke ... there's going to be urges at times and it's going to be extremely hard for certain blokes to be alone for up to two months as the competition ends.

I'm trying to say this as respectfully as I can. It's going to be a big ask for certain players - especially the young, single guys - to not breach the bubble if there's no companionship at all on the inside.“


So these overpaid boofheads who get very special treatment and whose whims are overly pandered, can’t be told to control themselves inside their $10-15 million luxury hotel bubble for a short while during a pandemic?

The ones in sydney got a max on $40k fines, no problem when you are on a mill a year.

Simple solution. Break the quarantine bubble and you are banned for a year without pay.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Two new exposure sites have been added in Victoria.

It was flagged earlier that the removalists were not being quite as forthcoming as desired.

It looks like these two exposure sites were part of their trip. And once again inside a dining venue where they should not have been, and for an hour at that.

Case alerts - public exposure sites | Coronavirus Victoria

Victorian locations where there is a risk you may have been exposed to COVID-19

www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au

 

[lovetravellingoz]

No simple answer. Both ways have disadvantages and can be hard to enforce or interpret.

And NSW Police are checking.. from a post on Whirlpool forums that ended in some anti-police posts.

Yes no simple answer I agree.

However I do empathise with police when they are asked to enforce a lockdown when to do so they need to have a discussion about whether a person should be out late at night, and/or whether they are indeed an essential worker as the main rule they seem to have is whether someone is more than 10km from home or not. I suspect that if they had a curfew and at least a list of shall we say "automatically" deemed essential workers such as nurses that they would have a reduced workload, and would be more effective and minimising people moving about.

It does seem odd though that in the example you gave that the police went to the extent that they did.

However I know my daughter who works in a respiratory and infectious diseases ward (and so yes at times a covid ward) at a major hospital has during the pandemic been pulled up and checked while working nightshift and she did not have any problem with any of her checks. And indeed she liked that they were checking as that made it more likely that she not have more covid patients.

 

[blackcat20]

Last year I was checked by police on the way home from Costco, to make sure I’d only been out for essentials. They wanted to know what I’d purchased.

 

[Jmrocky]

Well I am expecting a problem for the Sunshine Coast but did not expect it until later this week.4 NRL teams plus hangers on and family to be based there.

Coast to play host as NRL relocates due to outbreak

The Sunshine Coast will help host teams and games as the NRL shifts 12 clubs out of NSW and the ACT and into South-East Queensland. The dramatic move, forced by NSW’s escalating COVID-19 situation, has been locked in for at least a month. The NRL will reschedule 23 games originally booked in for...

www.sunshinecoastnews.com.au

New sites are for 29/30 June i.e. 14-15 days ago.

 

[Pushka]

The Miner and his family of four, all who later all tested positive but who immediately self isolated when the Miner got off his flight, with a couple of members needing hospital treatment, are about to be released from quarantine. South Australia owes them a huge favour.

 

[hydrabyss]

IMO that is a poor decision, now is not the time to allow people to delay testing. There are multiple test centres open late into the night and that also open early morning - test today/tonight or tomorrow before you go to work.

It appears many went out straight away to get tested and ended up being turned away. They had until saturday which is what the government must have needed to get the testing centres up and running to cope with the numbers. Forcing people to drive out of the area to other centres would have been something I would have thought they would need to avoid.

 

[bcworld]

4th member of red zone permit family?

 

[NM]

Whereas NSW is asking employers to apply some common sense, and strongly suggesting that shouldn't happen.

Unfortunately, common sense is far less common than most of us perceive it ought to be.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

It appears many went out straight away to get tested and ended up being turned away. They had until saturday which is what the government must have needed to get the testing centres up and running to cope with the numbers. Forcing people to drive out of the area to other centres would have been something I would have thought they would need to avoid.

Just watching the new this morning. Huge delays and reports of some people waiting waiting 6 hours before being turned away.

Huge queues again this morning. So no possibility for people to getting tested on the way to work.

 

[NM]

Last year I was checked by police on the way home from Costco, to make sure I’d only been out for essentials. They wanted to know what I’d purchased.

I hope you were able to show them the Costco-sized package of toilet paper in the boot

 

[nutwood]

Yes no simple answer I agree.

However I do empathise with police when they are asked to enforce a lockdown when to do so they need to have a discussion about whether a person should be out late at night, and/or whether they are indeed an essential worker as the main rule they seem to have is whether someone is more than 10km from home or not. I suspect that if they had a curfew and at least a list of shall we say "automatically" deemed essential workers such as nurses that they would have a reduced workload, and would be more effective and minimising people moving about.

It does seem odd though that in the example you gave that the police went to the extent that they did.

However I know my daughter who works in a respiratory and infectious diseases ward (and so yes at times a covid ward) at a major hospital has during the pandemic been pulled up and checked while working nightshift and she did not have any problem with any of her checks. And indeed she liked that they were checking as that made it more likely that she not have more covid patients.

There is no practical way to determine essential workers that has the faintest hope of being fair and consistent. There's possibly a few occupations that are obviously non-essential but then football still happens?
The only way is to leave up to police to decide on a case by case basis. Given that police are trained to uphold the law, not determine it, there are going to be widely varying outcomes. Not really fair on the police who in most cases like their laws to be black and white.

 

[bcworld]

This guy seems to be the preferred source for leaks...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1415095106118438914

 

[jakeseven7]

This guy seems to be the preferred source for leaks...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1415095106118438914

ABC have been reporting the same this AM. Same leaky source

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Two new exposure sites have been added in Victoria.

It was flagged earlier that the removalists were not being quite as forthcoming as desired.

It looks like these two exposure sites were part of their trip. And once again inside a dining venue where they should not have been, and for an hour at that.

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Case alerts - public exposure sites | Coronavirus Victoria

Victorian locations where there is a risk you may have been exposed to COVID-19

www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au

Son in law has just advised that yikes this may now include me/us


There were 2 technicians working at Caltex Kalkallo which as of last night has now been designated a tier 1 exposure site at the time the removalists were there.

Son in law, who is temporarily living with us, has worked with one of those technicians on Monday. So is now isolating at work awaiting further DHHS advice for himself and all others at his workplaces.

We are now isolating till he he hears back on what his close contacts need to be doing.

 

[jakeseven7]

Son in law has just advised that yikes this may now include me/us


There were 2 technicians working at Caltex Kalkallo which as of last night has now been designated a tier 1 exposure site at the time the removalists were there.

Son in law, who is temporarily living with us, has worked with one of those technicians on Monday. So is now isolating at work awaiting further DHHS advice for himself and all others at his workplaces.

We are now isolating till he he hears back on what his close contacts need to be doing.

I hope these dodgy NSW removalists that spread the virus from Sydney and have been unco-operative with VIC and SA authorities have the book thrown at them…. Wow….