Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[lovetravellingoz]

MCG interesting because the two were not together and 1 was sitting in a Tier 1 exposure area, the other was in a Tier 2 exposure area.

So Tier 2 case likely to have been fleeting transmission while walking around on entry/exit, buying food/drink or using the toilets etc.

From the Vic Presser: The Tier one case was sitting near 60's man, though it was not defined how near that was.


Note as well from exposure site list:

Tier 1: Case attended game. Some staff and patrons present will be made Tier 1 primary close contacts, and will be directly contacted by the Department of Health.

Tier 2: Level 2 of MCC Members' Reserve, Carlton v Geelong game

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Only mild changes so far..

From Vic DHHS

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Victoria

What you need to know about COVID-19 in Victoria.

www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au

(My caveat, is that a lot of people from the MCG, Y&J and at least 3 exposed schools will be getting tested today. So that may well still affect things like increased restrictions such asfor AFL games on the weekend for crowd attendance)

Restrictions in Victoria​

From 11:59 pm on Wednesday, 14 July 2021, if you live in Victoria:

• There are no restrictions on the reasons to leave home but staying COVIDSafe remains important.
• There are no limits on the distance you can travel.
• You can have up to 15 people visit your home per day (including dependants other than infants under 12 months).
• Patients at hospitals and care facilities can have two visitors at a time and up to five visitors per day. End of life patients can have two visitors at a time and there is no total limit per day.
• Face masks are mandatory indoors (not at home) for anyone aged 12 and above, unless an exception applies.
• Face masks must be worn outdoors for anyone aged 12 and above if 1.5 m distance cannot be maintained, from people who are not members of your household or your intimate partner.
• If you have any symptoms, no matter how mild, you should get tested for COVID-19.
• Check-in everywhere you visit using the Service Victoria QR code app, no matter how long you spend at that location.

Social gatherings ​

• Up to 15 people can visit your home per day, including dependants. Infants under 12 months, and any intimate partners of members of that household do not count in the cap of up to 15 people.
• You can see friends and family outdoors in a public place in a group of up to 50 people. A public place is an area accessible by members of the public like a park or the beach. It does not include your backyard at home.

Work and education​

• You aren’t required to work or study from home.
• Schools and universities remain open.
• Offices can have 75% capacity or 30 people, whichever is greater, with a density limit of 1 person per 2 sqm.
• Face masks are mandatory in the workplace – unless an exception applies.
• Teachers, educators and carers must wear masks. Secondary school students must also wear masks, unless an exception applies.

Religion and ceremony​

• Religious gatherings and ceremonies are allowed with density limits in place and no overall venue cap.
• You can have a wedding with up to 300 people at a venue. This limit includes the couple and two witnesses. The celebrant, and a photographer are in addition to the cap. If a wedding is held at a private residence, private gathering restrictions apply. Dancefloors are allowed with up to 50 people if a COVID Check-in Marshal is present at all entrances to the facility open to members of the public.
• Funerals are allowed with up to 300 people. This limit doesn’t include infants under 12 months of age, or the people required to conduct the funeral. If a funeral is held at a private residence, private gathering restrictions apply.

Sport and recreation ​

• Community sport continues for all ages, including training and competition. Spectators allowed within the venue and density limits apply.
• Indoor and outdoor physical recreation is open, with class sizes of up to 50 people, plus the trainers.
• Maximum capacity of 300 people per indoor space and 1000 people per outdoor space for all physical recreation and community sport at physical recreation venues. Indoor seated spaces can have the greater of 75% seated capacity, or a density quotient of 1 person per 4 sqm (or 1 person per 2 sqm, in the case that a COVID Check-in Marshal is at entrances open to public).
• Equipment must be cleaned between uses. You should wear a face mask when physical distancing of 1.5 metres cannot be maintained, unless you are out of breath.

Retail and hospitality ​

• Shops are open with density limits.
• Beauty and personal care services are open with density limits. Workers must wear a face mask, but customers can remove their face mask during the service.
• Restaurants and cafes are open for seated service with density limits and no venue cap. A venue does not need to provide seated service if a COVID Check-in Marshal is positioned at all entrances to the venue that are open to members of the public. There are no limits on group bookings. Food courts are open with density limits and no venue cap.
• Hospitality venues less than 100sqm can operate without a density quotient provided that no more than 25 members of public attend. These venues must have a COVID Check-in Marshal at all the entrances to the facility to require check in via the Service Victoria app.

Entertainment​

• Community facilities including libraries are open with density limits and no venue cap.
• Bars, karaoke facilities and nightclubs are open with density limits and no venue cap.
• Dancefloors are open when using a COVID Check-in Marshal at all entrances that are open to members of the public, with no more than 50 people on a single dance floor.
• Indoor and outdoor entertainment venues can have 75% seated capacity per seated space, with up to 300 people in each indoor space (seated or non-seated), and up to 1,000 people in each outdoor space. Indoor seated spaces can have the greater of 75% seated capacity, or a density quotient of 1 person per 4 sqm (or 1 person per 2 sqm, in the case that a COVID Check-in Marshal is at entrances open to public).For non-seated spaces indoors and outdoors, such as foyers, a density quotient of 1 person per 4 sqm applies, (or 1 person per 2 sqm, in the case that a COVID Check-in Marshal is present at entrances open to public).
• There are no limits on group bookings.
• Community facilities can operate with lesser of a density quotient of 1 person per 2sqm if they have a COVID Check-in Marshal at all the entrances to the facility to require check in via the Service Victoria app.

Additionally​

• There are no restrictions on reasons to leave your home

 

[bcworld]

Transmission in Craigieburn Coles not quite as fleeting as first thought!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1415508917057060872

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Only mild changes.

From Vic DHHS

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Victoria

What you need to know about COVID-19 in Victoria.

www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au

(My caveat, is that a lot of people from the MCG, Y&J and at least 3 exposed schools will be getting tested today. So that may well still affect things like the AFL games on the weekend for crowd attendance)

Restrictions in Victoria​

From 11:59 pm on Wednesday, 14 July 2021, if you live in Victoria:

Yeah, those were up early this morning as of yesterday. Dunno if there will be further restrictions coming today though

 

[jase05]

Yeah, those were up early this morning as of yesterday. Dunno if there will be further restrictions coming today though

Lockdown from midnight tonight according to the Herald Sun.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Lockdown from midnight tonight according to the Herald Sun.

wow The ABC reported earlier today that there would be no lockdown tonight. Guess things are moving rapidly.

 

[bcworld]

wow The ABC reported earlier today that there would be no lockdown tonight. Guess things are moving rapidly.

I'm onboard with it. There's too much going on...a stadium with confirmed transmission, multiple schools.

 

[N860CR]

wow The ABC reported earlier today that there would be no lockdown tonight. Guess things are moving rapidly.

They seem to have just changed their mind.

So we’ve now got the entire East coast tag teaming in and out of lockdowns. Going well. Australia is definitely all over this

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Transmission in Craigieburn Coles not quite as fleeting as first thought!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1415508917057060872

It is also interesting as the newer case was found as the person had checked in with a QR Code, and so was instructed to get tested.

So it would appear that the person breaking home quarantine may not have been that open about their shopping interactions (hence why transmission was initially thought to have been fleeting), whereas the interview with the newer case most likely was.

The other aspect is that due to privacy the first case was not named (not advocating that it should be), and so the newer case did not know he had met a positive case.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

More detail from the Vic Presser today:

By Alexis Moran, ABC

There are '7 rings of contact tracing' across the Victorian outbreaks, Jeroen Weimar says​

"The first ring was the removalists that were here at the end of last week, we identified them late on Sunday night into Monday morning."
"The second ring was the families, the people they moved into the state and the places where they picked up their furniture.
"The third ring was the neighbours, the residents in the apartment building, at Ariele.
"The fourth ring is friends of those residents and ask neighbours, at least one of whom has turned positive.
"The fifth ring is families of the friends of the people in the area, and we have at least two positive cases in the family ring.
"The sixth ring is the primary close contacts of those cases, we are testing those people today.
"And the 7th ring is their secondary close contacts, who are all locked down in isolation. So you can see in the last 72 hours we've burned through seven rings, exceptionally quickly.
"This is probably the fastest response we have ever seen to an outbreak that's moving more quickly than we have ever seen in Victoria, or I suspect anywhere else in Australia."

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By Michael Doyle, ABC

Jeroen Weimar says more than 6,500 Victorians are in isolation​

Mr Weimar tanked Victorians in isolation for helping the state try and contain the current outbreak.

 

[bcworld]

The other aspect is that due to privacy the first case was not named (not advocating that it should be), and so the newer case did not know he had met a positive case.

I wonder how their conversation went though.

A: Hey fancy seeing you here
B: <looks sheepish>
A: How were school hols?
B: Yeah, just back from Sydney
A: <sucks air through teeth>...and possibly some COVID

 

[lovetravellingoz]

wow The ABC reported earlier today that there would be no lockdown tonight. Guess things are moving rapidly.

8m ago
By Simon Smale

ABC understands Melbourne will go into a snap lockdown from midnight​

The ABC understands Melbourne will go into a snap lockdown from midnight tonight to curb the growing COVID outbreak.
Authorities are still discussing how many days it will last.

13m
By Simon Smale

Will there be capacity crowds at the footy this weekend?​

ABC News

Almost certainly not, said Mr Weimar.
"We're reviewing every setting as we speak," he said.
"And we will continue to review every setting as we go forward."

 

[MooTime]

I'm onboard with it. There's too much going on...a stadium with confirmed transmission, multiple schools.

Lockdown Melbourne style, hard, fast n short.
Don't want this to get away a la Sydney.

Back to covid zero, yeah yeah!

 

[Seat0B]

Interesting the comment from the NSW Health Minister, reports of employers telling employees that they are 'essential' and must come into the office to work.... when arguably they are 'not' and could work from home.

my friend works as a legal clerical assistant and she is being made to go in to work in the north of Sydney every day.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

"The first ring was the removalists that were here at the end of last week, we identified them late on Sunday night into Monday morning."
"The second ring was the families, the people they moved into the state and the places where they picked up their furniture.
"The third ring was the neighbours, the residents in the apartment building, at Ariele.
"The fourth ring is friends of those residents and ask neighbours, at least one of whom has turned positive.
"The fifth ring is families of the friends of the people in the area, and we have at least two positive cases in the family ring.
"The sixth ring is the primary close contacts of those cases, we are testing those people today.
"And the 7th ring is their secondary close contacts, who are all locked down in isolation. So you can see in the last 72 hours we've burned through seven rings, exceptionally quickly.
"This is probably the fastest response we have ever seen to an outbreak that's moving more quickly than we have ever seen in Victoria, or I suspect anywhere else in Australia."



That's not the "traditional" meaning of ring of contact tracing. A ring of contact tracing would be the positive case and the close contacts (ie families and neighbours), then a second ring is the secondary contacts (ie friends of neighbours, who had met with neighbours elsewhere - not at the apartment building).

But fair enough using poetic licence in this case to talk up the work being done.

With Delta, it is much quicker and household contacts are getting a high percentage of positives - so a hgh percentage would be higher since they didn't know for 3 days that a household member even had contact. It does appears that around the country even casual contacts are starting a to be considered as quasi-close contacts.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

my friend works as a legal clerical assistant and she is being made to go in to work in the north of Sydney every day.

Any reason given???

Possibly being told 'privacy' of client files, yada, yada, yada as the reason for the need to come to work.

 

[Seat0B]

"The first ring was the removalists that were here at the end of last week, we identified them late on Sunday night into Monday morning."
"The second ring was the families, the people they moved into the state and the places where they picked up their furniture.
"The third ring was the neighbours, the residents in the apartment building, at Ariele.
"The fourth ring is friends of those residents and ask neighbours, at least one of whom has turned positive.
"The fifth ring is families of the friends of the people in the area, and we have at least two positive cases in the family ring.
"The sixth ring is the primary close contacts of those cases, we are testing those people today.
"And the 7th ring is their secondary close contacts, who are all locked down in isolation. So you can see in the last 72 hours we've burned through seven rings, exceptionally quickly.
"This is probably the fastest response we have ever seen to an outbreak that's moving more quickly than we have ever seen in Victoria, or I suspect anywhere else in Australia."

And how many circles of hell? I feel like we are all living in the Inferno

 

[Lynda2475]

my friend works as a legal clerical assistant and she is being made to go in to work in the north of Sydney every day.

She needs to report her employer. Suspect they failed to put in place sufficient technology to allow her to WFH.

A friend who is a solicitor is WFH without issue, as is her clerk they just scan documents and work from secured server, and use teams for client consults.

 

[Seat0B]

She needs to report her employer. Suspect they failed to put in place sufficient technology to allow her to WFH.

A friend who is a solicitor is WFH without issue, as is her clerk they just scan documents and work from secured server, and use teams for client consults.

yes it is exactly this - lack of WFH technology being provided. im not sure she would be willing to report - she needs her job and if the employer ever found out or guessed, she would be toast.

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Any reason given???

Possibly being told 'privacy' of client files, yada, yada, yada as the reason for the need to come to work.

as above - lack of technology being provided. Come, on it's not rocket science.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

And how many circles of hell? I feel like we are all living in the Inferno

Certainly does feel like it - the other factor of Delta that doesn't get as much airtime is delayed positives - get a negative test, then a later positive.