Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Commentary from the Sunshine State....perhaps still self-centred, but perhaps we are all in this together?!?!


The Queensland Premier has floated the possibility of New South Wales still being in the grips of the Delta variant at Christmas, which could have major implications for the Sunshine State.

While making an announcement to help the struggling tourism industry on Tuesday, Annastacia Palaszczuk said the Queensland economy’s “toughest days” were still ahead should NSW, and potentially Victoria, still be under tight restrictions come December.

“If NSW is in lockdown for months … we’re hoping everyone can come out before Christmas because our tourism industry relies on that,” she said from the Gold Coast.

“So many people from NSW and Victoria come to Queensland over the Christmas holidays, and fingers crossed that everything goes well and that they’re able to get on top of that Delta outbreak.”

Annastacia’s grim news for Sydneysiders

The Queensland Premier has floated the possibility of NSW still being in the grips of the Delta variant at Christmas, which could have major implications for the Sunshine State.

www.news.com.au

 

[oz_mark]

Trouble is, I have stopped believing it. The Feds are not in charge. We are in the hands of the absolute monarchs of the colonies formerly known as Australia. And they are not saying anything to give hope. Lockdown now widely expected to run until November.

Careful, I got lambasted for suggesting the real leaders would be plotting our way out of this, giving us a plan, unlike what we have got.

 

[antycbr]

Trouble is, I have stopped believing it. The Feds are not in charge. We are in the hands of the absolute monarchs of the colonies formerly known as Australia. And they are not saying anything to give hope. Lockdown now widely expected to run until November.

Like all monarchs they will have to adapt or they will face a revolution.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

NSW Regional/Rural Data - by LGA (using 8pm reporting data I believe)

Dubbo - 9 yesterday, 90 this week, 90 total
Maitland - 3 yesterday, 28 this week, 36 total
Lake Macquarie - 2 yesterday, 32 this week, 39 total
Newcastle - 2 yesterday, 25 this week, 45 total
Narromine - 2 yesterday, 2 this week, 2 total
Wingecarribee - 1 yesterday, 1 this week, 5 total
Bourke - 1 yesterday, 2 this week, 2 total
Brewarrina - 1 yesterday, 1 this week, 1 total
Gilgandra - 1 yesterday, 1 this week, 1 total

There will be other areas with none yesterday but some cases this week.

COVID Cases By Council/LGA | COVID-19 NSW

See the latest COVID-19 data for your council/LGA including new cases today, cases this week and total cases.

covid19nsw.ethan.link

Apologies in advance if I missed any locations.

 

[Seat0B]

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This is greedy selfish thinking. Mid-November is the latest possible date, otherwise the Christmas silly season, and the explosive waste of money will have ruinous consequences.
Think smarter. Arrival rate of covid infections into hospital, departure of treated noninfectious patients. (Telling people to die thoughtfully/take chances in their homes is kinda unthinkable in .au). All Westfields will NEVER be allowed to have silly season packed densities this year, and Delta will not be taking a holiday. I'll be happy to be wrong, as my crematorium shares are doing nicely.

sorry, I genuinely don't understand the point you're making. Could be I am particularly slow today...

 

[Seat0B]

I know a couple of senior health bureaucrats. One of them was ultra risk averse when I first met him 25 years ago and if anything he is worse now. His salary is guaranteed but he has absolutely no idea how a small business or casual worker sees the world. The elimination of any health risk is all that matters. From his perspective though his job is health risk not the economy.

I can sort of understand this - that is their job. To give health advice to government. But then government is supposed to consider the health advice, along with all the other advice (eg economic, technical, security, etc) and make a policy that includes everything - not just blindly, unquestioningly and exclusively accept advice because it is health advice.

 

[ethernet]

I know a couple of senior health bureaucrats. One of them was ultra risk averse when I first met him 25 years ago and if anything he is worse now. His salary is guaranteed but he has absolutely no idea how a small business or casual worker sees the world. The elimination of any health risk is all that matters. From his perspective though his job is health risk not the economy.

I find nearly all doctors really smart, and difficult to fool. They ask who what where when and how. They look at feedback loops. The spin merchants the politicians employ, direct daily conferences to maximally dilute ill feelings. And hey, its working.

I get angry at PS bashing. People do not do their job descriptions, but do that they are actually measured on, to get their bonuses. Privately, they wish they were not gagged (see CSIRO), or teaching hospitals. See AMP or who decided private security guards for Victoria. What you see is accountability going down the toilet, and fire and short-term burn costcutting (See Boeing and Lockheed). Politically, any decision will benefit some, and disadvantage others.

Covid is a gamechanger. Lockdowns and deaths do have political ramifications, and the timing is not up to the mandarins. All politicians on Covid, have been prepped on UK 'Nudge theory' - look it up on wikipedia. A nudge to 70, a nudge to 80, then reveal the target is 93% aka Iceland.

The economy, jobs, prosperity and everything has long leadtimes. Because ,au did not have a Dr training pipeline, our ability to import temp Dr's to do crazy hours in understaffed ER wards. A number of clever people on this forum are sick and tried of no concrete targets being announced, just like new car dealer will NOT give you an all in lowest price quote over the phone. Car dealer/politician same same.

Look up nudge theory, then match this up to the press circus. Of concern, I see a large number of nursing homes/aged facilities being closed, or wound down that will cause a close down, destocked to allow redevelopment. If there is a long covid, will hospital beds absorb the load when private capacity is non-existent?

I am pleased to report OR simulations show the predicted covid death rate for those in the higher care groups, will decrease NSW health running costs longer term, and improve profitability for that sector, and similar gains if it breaks out in correctional facilities. Shows these politicians do have a heart of gold, and know the outcomes fully.

 

[burmans]

"we are going to follow the dougherty report" - do it then.

Have you actually read the Dougherty report, it says we need to get to 70/80 and then there will be some residual restrictions, specifically masks in some settings and social distancing also in some. So they are doing it.

 

[jakeseven7]

Have you actually read the Dougherty report, it says we need to get to 70/80 and then there will be some residual restrictions, specifically masks in some settings and social distancing also in some. So they are doing it.

I've never heard of that report, but I've heard of the Doherty report which is probably a lot more widely available....

Question from journalist: What is your justification for alert level 4.
Ardern: Australia.

Poor old Gladys. Copping it internationally now. Seriously, give her a break!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I've never heard of that report, but I've heard of the Doherty report which is probably a lot more widely available....

The Dougherty report concentrates on achieving the maximum number of doughnut days

Post automatically merged: Aug 17, 2021

Question from journalist: What is your justification for alert level 4.
Ardern: Australia.

She said that she does not want to go " Light and Long" in terms of lockdown.

 

[jakeseven7]

NSW Health just confirmed they are not listing all exposure locations on their website for metro Sydney

Well that certainly signals many things....

In addition to weaning the masses away slowly slowly away from this hyper-emotionalised daily reporting.

 

[jakeseven7]

Maybe this is something Australia should be putting in at 70% double vaxxed to help stop the spread of the virus here? If our government had a backbone...

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Canada bans unvaccinated airline passengers​

The Canadian government will soon require all air travellers and passengers on interprovincial trains to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

Transport Minister Omar Alghabra said Friday that includes all commercial air travellers, passengers on trains between provinces and cruise ship passengers.

COVID-19 vaccine rules around the world: Canada bans unvaccinated passengers as other countries also crack down

The Canadian government will soon require all airline travellers to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Many other countries are also mandating vaccines.

www.traveller.com.au

 

[ethernet]

sorry, I genuinely don't understand the point you're making. Could be I am particularly slow today...

I am saying if Covid cases fill/exceed hospital capacity, especially if there is a surge event, where life/death triage decisions must be made - is politically poisonous. Not like we have a surplus of ICU beds and neg pressure zones, let alone infection escapes. Over 70 yo deaths can be desensitized, but when children and working age people start dying in numbers, trouble.

Open up shopping, or let the virus rip and fill up hospital ICU. Pick one. Personally, I do not believe new cases will drop to 35 a day by mid November. The fact the politicians are not releasing modelling results tells me plenty. I do expect several LGA's to go green again. However hospital capacity is everything (including keeping hospital workers out of quarantine).

And I just read Qld is bracing for NSW tourist starvation. Christmas will be click and collect.

 

[drron]

QLD already has NSW and Victorian tourism starvation. At Hayman Island with occupation rate of 20% and all Queenslanders.

 

[jakeseven7]

QLD already has NSW and Victorian tourism starvation. At Hayman Island with occupation rate of 20% and all Queenslanders.

Drinking only the cheap stuff below the bar too I'm sure

 

[drron]

Drinking only the cheap stuff below the bar too I'm sure

Only the freebie they gave us.

 

[dajop]

Maybe this is something Australia should be putting in at 70% double vaxxed to help stop the spread of the virus here? If our government had a backbone...

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Singapore has not yet made decisions around travel (obviously international) but if wanting to "dine in" at a restaurant or hospitality venue you need to present either proof of vaccination or "pre-event" testing (a rapid antigen test taken within the 24 hrs before arriving at the venue. Also still have caps of 5 on dining in, for now.

This still gives some "freedoms" to the "unvaccinated". So it's not removing peoples rights altogether, but is making it disruptive and costly.

 

[Pushka]

The reason why SA closed the border to Broken Hill was because there were traces found in sewage over the weekend. Interesting that the Olympians coming from NT just now didn't have to quarantine again in SA because Howard Springs is regarded as being between Darwin and Katherine. Not sure where they flew from...

 

[Lynda2475]

Interesting that the Olympians coming from NT just now didn't have to quarantine again in SA because Howard Springs is regarded as being between Darwin and Katherine. Not sure where they flew from...

They flew from Darwin, and many media were in the terminal there interviewing them whilst waiting for flights.

Funnily enough the close contacts of the NT positives have been transferred to Howard Springs.

 

[henrus]

Interesting that the Olympians coming from NT just now didn't have to quarantine again in SA because Howard Springs is regarded as being between Darwin and Katherine. Not sure where they flew from...

To be fair it's a slightly different tolerance level.

NSW has many hundreds of cases per day whilst the NT is at just 1.

Same reason why Queensland backdated restrictions from states like VIC/NSW but hasn't done so for the NT with anyone already in the state (but having recently been in Darwin) not subject to stay-at-home restrictions.