Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[VPS]

oh FFS

Catholics, Anglicans and Orthodox Christians told to be wary of Australia's coronavirus vaccine plan

Three of Australia's most senior Archbishops urge the Prime Minister to reconsider the use of a COVID-19 vaccine developed from a cell line taken from an aborted foetus — something they say is "deeply immoral".

www.abc.net.au

 

[TheRealTMA]

oh FFS

Catholics, Anglicans and Orthodox Christians told to be wary of Australia's coronavirus vaccine plan

Three of Australia's most senior Archbishops urge the Prime Minister to reconsider the use of a COVID-19 vaccine developed from a cell line taken from an aborted foetus — something they say is "deeply immoral".

www.abc.net.au

What is the point of these people with their medieval beliefs? After the kiddy fiddling they should have been abolished.

 

[SydneySwan]

oh FFS

Catholics, Anglicans and Orthodox Christians told to be wary of Australia's coronavirus vaccine plan

Three of Australia's most senior Archbishops urge the Prime Minister to reconsider the use of a COVID-19 vaccine developed from a cell line taken from an aborted foetus — something they say is "deeply immoral".

www.abc.net.au

I am speechless. Maybe if you were banned from travelling if you didn't get vaccinated ....... I know a few Catholics who ignore the church's teachings on abortion and contraception so maybe they will ignore any teachings on vaccination as well.

 

[Princess Fiona]

I am speechless. Maybe if you were banned from travelling if you didn't get vaccinated ....... I know a few Catholics who ignore the church's teachings on abortion and contraception so maybe they will ignore any teachings on vaccination as well.

I should think so. There are plenty of other vaccines which use cells cultured from a foetus.
This particular line that is being used for the Oxford virus is developed from kidney cells from a foetus dating to 1972.
Rubella, Chickenpox, Hep A and a few others also have used foetal cells in their manufacture.
The Archbishop should and hopefully will be completely ignored on this.

 

[Flying mermaid]

I am speechless. Maybe if you were banned from travelling if you didn't get vaccinated ....... I know a few Catholics who ignore the church's teachings on abortion and contraception so maybe they will ignore any teachings on vaccination as well.

I think the majority of Catholics ignore the teachings. Most are Easter and Christmas catholics anyway. Even the ones who are regular church goers are more rational in which bits they follow.

 

[Flashback]

I think the majority of Catholics ignore the teachings. Most are Easter and Christmas catholics anyway. Even the ones who are regular church goers are more rational in which bits they follow.

Catholic Ireland is not so much Catholic Ireland anymore too, a good example of this.

 

[Flying mermaid]

And in breaking news Brisbane MP Terri Butler leaves parliament in Canberra to take a Covid test. She is being cautious (good)

 

[p--and--t]

And in breaking news Brisbane MP Terri Butler leaves parliament in Canberra to take a Covid test. She is being cautious (good)

Had a giggle to myself today when the speaker chided continuous interjections with "it would be a pity if the member for ...... came all the way to be here today and got thrown out"

 

[Lynda2475]

So Andrews has published the list of high risk venues for Victorians - am I the only one who expected to see a lot more than 6 venues listed? If NSW and Qld both have many more venues than this on watch lists and many fewer cases, why does Vic think they need only warn about 6 places.

Get angry Vic, demand full list of all venues positive people have visited in the past 14 days - demand the same level of information that all the other states provide. Ask why are the Vic government is withholding this information, what purpose does it serve to not share what you are entitled to know?

From SMH.com.au:

Victoria’s high risk COVID-19 locations revealed
If you have visited any of these locations, you should be watching for coronavirus symptoms.
That’s the advice the Health Department released on Monday afternoon with a list of places they have deemed ‘high risk locations’ where people may have been exposed to the virus.
The locations are:

• Danny’s IGA X-Press in Armadale on August 15;
• Woolworths Docklands, in Docklands, between August 11 and 15;
• Fairfield Bunnings on August 12,
• Coles in Hallam between August 15 and 17;
• The 8:00am train from Ginifer station to Sunshine station on the August 17 and 18; and,
• The Bendigo Marketplace in Bendigo on August 12 and 13.

The Victorian Health Department said the list would be updated as new information became available.
“The locations listed are where there is a higher risk you may have been exposed to coronavirus (COVID-19),” the statement said.
“It is not a complete list.
“The information is based on advice provided to the department by people who are confirmed cases.”

 

[Seat0B]

Thankfully Cairns is 2000 k’s away, the only risk for us is the BNE airport where we will only be for 50 minutes. Masks on from boarding in Cairns until we get into our car in Adelaide.

Hope your trip was smooth @Pushka. I'd be interested in your observations of the COVID approach in BNE airport.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Which of the 3 Woolworths in Docklands should I be paying attention to?

And this government in Victoria wants 12 more months of this with no questions asked?

What a joke.

 

[Seat0B]

Well Anna P is refusing to call Brisbane area a hotspot, even though it has additional restrictions compared with the rest of Queensland and more active cases than some Sydney LGAs did when she gleefully declared them hotspots. The hypocrisy is glaring.

I know how you feel @Lynda2475 as I write from the Qld declared hotspot of ACT - 45 days since our last case.

 

[Pushka]

Hope your trip was smooth @Pushka. I'd be interested in your observations of the COVID approach in BNE airport.

In Brisbane it was a non event because we had only travelled from Cairns. Adelaide on the other hand full on experience of questions and checks.

Could your FIL come to Adelaide and you can still come to Adelaide but need to self iso at a place of your choice? You would need two Covid tests and stay for 2 weeks but FIL would be free to leave SA whenever he wanted. Book a 2 bed 2 bath apartment? But there is also talk of an ACT bubble with SA.

Edit. Subject to maintenance of current border controls.

 

[jakeseven7]

Get angry Vic, demand full list of all venues positive people have visited in the past 14 days - demand the same level of information that all the other states provide. Ask why are the Vic government is withholding this information, what purpose does it serve to not share what you are entitled to know?

Barely anything is open. no one can really go anywhere, the list of high risk locations is going to be small!

 

[Lynda2475]

Nothing is open mate chill

100s of new cases a day, Id expect to see more than 3 supermarkets on the list. Everyone has to eat.

 

[jakeseven7]

100s of new cases a day, Id expect to see more than 3 supermarkets on the list. Everyone has to eat.

One person per HH can go once a day max.... its probably very low.

When they open up the list will grow, like Sydneys huge list and our huge list in Brissy!

 

[RooFlyer]

SA loves out CPHO Dr Nicola Spurrier - she's calm considered and well spoken (we named a coughtail after her)

The CMO of Tas, Dr Mark Veitch has a manner designed to put everyone in a coma. He's the uber cautious one that won't let us travel back from South Austraia without quarantine because "their border with Victoria is porous". FFS. He's also the one who cited "people are frightened" as one of the reasons he's advising the government to keep the borders closed. He deigned to go on ABC radio this morning and basically talked the whole time, so few questions could be asked.

That said, the majority of the state would be behind him 100%. Stuff the job losses,

 

[Must...Fly!]

Feds need to keep putting the screws on.

If Iceland can invite anyone in, covid test on arrival (free), then straight home/hotel and stay until receive your result (within 2 hours) then why can't our states do it for our own people?

Lib Dems will do very well at the next election I feel.

 

[antycbr]

The CMO of Tas, Dr Mark Veitch has a manner designed to put everyone in a coma. He's the uber cautious one that won't let us travel back from South Austraia without quarantine because "their border with Victoria is porous". FFS. He's also the one who cited "people are frightened" as one of the reasons he's advising the government to keep the borders closed. He deigned to go on ABC radio this morning and basically talked the whole time, so few questions could be asked.

That said, the majority of the state would be behind him 100%. Stuff the job losses,

People in Tasmania have jobs? Certainly very few of them in the private sector, and even less of them if the border stays closed. Meanwhile the donor states for GST and Income Tax - NSW and VIC - continue to bail out these states.

Here's an example - Tasmania will receive $1.1 billion more in GST revenue than its population share of $1.4 billion in 2018-19 because of Horizontal Fiscal Equalisation (link)

Normally I don't have a problem with this - it's the price of being a federation - but I do have a problem when "people are frightened" is a scientific reason why borders remain closed and someone else is having to pick up the bill.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

100s of new cases a day, Id expect to see more than 3 supermarkets on the list. Everyone has to eat.

Under Stage 4 very little is open. We simply do not have the vast range of places to visit that people in NSW and Qld can.

Yes we have to eat, but can only go to a supermarket only within 5km of home, and the one you go to you have to wear to a mask and shop by yourself. Personally when I do I keep well clear of anyone else. So most Victorians mainly just go back to same supermarket for each shop. Or maybe two. We don't have the ability to shop at many different supermarkets.

If one has a case it is closed and cleaned. So you cannot shop there anyway. Supermarkets have not been major transmission sites in Victoria. It is more that a worker has arrived infectious. I can only remember one supermarket that was a significant cluster and that was probably more due to nearby abattoir.

The main supermarket sites that have been clusters are the distribution centres, and the public has never been able to visit them.

Bunnings is closed to the public at present. The public can only buy online with pickup outside in your vehicle. Ditto retail.

The main places that have had recent cases you cannot go to. ie workplaces, distribution centres, abattoirs etc, aged care.


PS. Hopefully the days of 100s of new cases per day are gone.