Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[dajop]

I think you are entitled to feel a bit down in the mouth @p--and--t , and I don't think you should call it selfish. Just because other people may have it worse, that does not mean that losing your reasonable (and modest) expectations of a nice gathering of family and friends for a Big Birthday does make you feel a bit low.
I have a big birthday coming up very soon too, and I feel exactly the same way.

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My niece missed her 21st this year. She's going to celebrate her 22nd next year instead. I'm betting next year there'll be a lot of 19th's, 22nd's and x1st's ...

 

[RooFlyer]

October 26 you can go to Tassie at least

Yes, and with customary sympathy for Victorians working hard & difficult, Tas Premier announced travel into the State without quarantine from all but Vic and NSW allowed from Oct 26.

 

[jakeseven7]

Yes, and with customary sympathy for Victorians working hard & difficult, Tas Premier announced travel into the State without quarantine from all but Vic and NSW allowed from Oct 26.

They will let NSW in on that date as well, pretty much all but guaranteed. Only an outbreak will stop them joining.

 

[jb747]

I wouldn’t be surprised if this claytons bubble is all about an upcoming election, though I can’t see how allowing Kiwis to leave will help their tourist industry.

 

[Flashback]

Don't overplay the NZ "bubble", they still have to quarantine at cost for 14 days on return so I don't think it's going to have the huge increase in numbers that people are expecting unless it's true one way traffic.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

So far in Australia

Victoria reporting 7 new cases
NSW 4 cases, all in international/State quarantine
Qld 2 cases, was in quarantine and returning back to quarantine.
SA 2 cases, both in international quarantine, but back in the active cases column

just waiting for WA to report today

 

[TheRealTMA]

Don't overplay the NZ "bubble", they still have to quarantine at cost for 14 days on return so I don't think it's going to have the huge increase in numbers that people are expecting unless it's true one way traffic.

That means we are going to be overrun (well, in QLD there are already 2-300K of them) even more? How will they all get home? Wait for Peter Dutton to withdraw their visas and deport them?

 

[Lynda2475]

Qld 2 cases, was in quarantine and returning back to quarantine.

if NSW had a clock for Qld we could reset it - as whilst limited these folk were briefly in the community!

 

[Lynda2475]

Looks like Qld will probably reset the NSW clock again:

SMH reports:

Nearly 50 passengers, crew on Jetstar flight being contacted after potential exposure to virus

Passengers and crew on a Jetstar flight from Melbourne to Sydney may have been exposed to an infectious passenger.

The passenger tested positive for COVID-19 in a day-two test in hotel quarantine after arriving in Sydney and is believed to have travelled while infectious, NSW Health said in a statement on Friday.

The Jetstar Flight JQ510 left Melbourne at 11am on September 27.

Health authorities are contacting 47 passengers who were travelling on the flight with special permits or quarantine exemptions and crew.

Most passengers on board are currently in hotel quarantine and there is no ongoing risk to the general public, NSW Health said.

Close contacts of the passenger have been told to get tested immediately and isolate for 14 days even if a negative result is received.



I want to know how many got quarantine exemptions, unless they were Vic crew returning to Melbourne same day they should be forced into quarantine, given Melbourne still has many unlinked mystery cases.

 

[DC3]

.... Health authorities are contacting 47 passengers who were travelling on the flight with special permits or quarantine exemptions and crew ...

47 x exemptions, etc, sounds like a lot. May be a typo?

 

[jakeseven7]

Looks like Qld will probably reset the NSW clock again:

SMH reports:

Nearly 50 passengers, crew on Jetstar flight being contacted after potential exposure to virus

Passengers and crew on a Jetstar flight from Melbourne to Sydney may have been exposed to an infectious passenger.

The passenger tested positive for COVID-19 in a day-two test in hotel quarantine after arriving in Sydney and is believed to have travelled while infectious, NSW Health said in a statement on Friday.

The Jetstar Flight JQ510 left Melbourne at 11am on September 27.

Health authorities are contacting 47 passengers who were travelling on the flight with special permits or quarantine exemptions and crew.

Most passengers on board are currently in hotel quarantine and there is no ongoing risk to the general public, NSW Health said.

Close contacts of the passenger have been told to get tested immediately and isolate for 14 days even if a negative result is received.



I want to know how many got quarantine exemptions, unless they were Vic crew returning to Melbourne same day they should be forced into quarantine, given Melbourne still has many unlinked mystery cases.

Pretty sure any cases will be traceable and then the clock is safe!

 

[Lynda2475]

47 x exemptions, etc, sounds like a lot. May be a typo?

Not sure if it was 47 passengers and crew in total i.e. you need a special exemption to fly. Hopefully only a handful had an actual quarantine exemption.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

With all the commotion in the AFF world, there was a concerning point on Victoria’s situation

1. the Chadstone butcher might have been open even after being identified as a site of transmission
2. the index case of that cluster/sub-cluster still has not been identified.

Not giving a lot of confidence to the public about its track and trace and/or the speed of its follow up activities if Indeed Melbourne gets the take step 3 or in a worse scenario, step 3 gets delayed.

 

[DC3]

OMG @Flying mermaid - exactly what happens at my place too! Also tinned spaghetti on toast (I know it's disgusting, but there you go!)

Shock. Adelaide is meant to encourage a cultured palate. I have never known anyone from Adelaide to consume such a product. Well, perhaps a school kid may.

 

[I love to travel]

Shock. Adelaide is meant to encourage a cultured palate. I have never known anyone from Adelaide to consume such a product. Well, perhaps a school kid may.

I was brought up in Adelaide and nearly 50 years later still eat cold tinned spaghetti. Only Heinz brand though.

 

[DC3]

I was brought up in Adelaide and nearly 50 years later still eat cold tinned spaghetti. Only Heinz brand though.

Yes, I lived there for many years and get back only occasionally now, unfortunately. Still have a soft spot for Adelaide as it has so much going for it (and SA).

I think that trips to the Barossa, wineries down south and perhaps the Adelaide Hills broadened my perspective, gastronomically.

 

[Pushka]

I read that the passengers on the Jetstar flight would all be needing to go into quarantine anyway as part of their exempted status.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

With all the commotion in the AFF world, there was a concerning point on Victoria’s situation

1. the Chadstone butcher might have been open even after being identified as a site of transmission
2. the index case of that cluster/sub-cluster still has not been identified.

1. the Chadstone butcher might have been open even after being identified as a site of transmission
Not so. The journalist who flagged this today was there on Weds, after it had been closed and deep cleaned.


The Butcher Club owner Peter Robinson told NCA NewsWire the manager of his Chadstone store received a positive test result on Monday night and subsequent cleaning had been undertaken immediately after.

He also said a cleaner at Chadstone was the first person to spread the disease, forcing nine of Mr Robinson’s staff members into isolation, with one sent to hospital.

“We jumped into action on Monday night – we were shut on Sunday – and we had Spotless come on Tuesday and do a deep clean,” he said.

.......


To which Prof Sutton said: “As soon as cases are identified, linked to settings, they are shut down, cleaned and the close contacts are told to quarantine.”

The journalist pressed: “But I was there Wednesday. We knew Wednesday that the Butcher Club was linked to a concern there at Chadstone and cases at Chadstone. I saw it. It was still open, trading.”

2. the index case of that cluster/sub-cluster still has not been identified.

Well technically not yet announced by the DHHS ( who for privacy reasons rarely announce specific details when the person can be identified), but it was either the cleaner or one of the Butcher Club employees.

By the timeline I put up yesterday the cleaner , or one of their family members, will have tested positive first. The timeline suggesting that the cleaner was working when they or a family member had already tested positive and so the index case is most likely one of the Frankston family cluster. If not it will be within the Butcher Club Cluster.

Both clusters are all in isolation.

Not giving a lot of confidence to the public about its track and trace and/or the speed of its follow up activities if Indeed Melbourne gets the take step 3 or in a worse scenario, step 3 gets delayed.

The facts would suggest the opposite. As above shop closed and cleaned straight away. All Butcher Club employees isolating

The only one at fault here would appear to be the cleaner who it seems was working when they would have known that they or a household member was positive and that they should have been isolating. No doubt the Frankston family have been the subject of extra instruction of how they need to comply.

 

[Pushka]

I was brought up in Adelaide and nearly 50 years later still eat cold tinned spaghetti. Only Heinz brand though.

And I've never eaten it, hot or cold. I did eat Heinz baked beans recently though.

 

[straitman]

And I've never eaten it, hot or cold. I did eat Heinz baked beans recently though.

Baked Beans are acceptable however anyone who eats tinned spaghetti (particularly cold) needs help.

Now it’s time to get back on topic.