Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Today's Mystery Case announcement:

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And from 2 days ago.

The above has some different numbers on some dates the the table below, and so is being adjusted (reclassified one would guess).

ie
Today's from 30thSep 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 0 = 9
Oct 9th's from 30thSep 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 0 = 7
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Interesting (hopefully coincidence) that the 'outbreak' of mystery cases happened soon after Step 2 Melbourne was taken. Perhaps pent-up need to get out of Stage 4 'lockdown'.

Perhaps they need also to follow NSW's model of not caring how long it takes to link mystery cases. I do vaguely recall at least an instance of a mystery case being linked more than 48 hours later.

 

[Austman]

Not (yet) in the media but I can report that the strict lock-down restrictions are being ignored on a grand scale in inner city Melbourne.

Masks are either not being worn or are dropped off the face. People who moved out of the area are now moving back in.

Activities like selling household goods for pick-up are being done. My inner city street had more activity than I've seen for over six months today.

Not quite "normal". But not that far from it.

I think the population is speaking. The government had better be listening.

 

[antycbr]

Perhaps they need also to follow NSW's model of not caring how long it takes to link mystery cases. I do vaguely recall at least an instance of a mystery case being linked more than 48 hours later.

The 48 hour thing has not been agreed nationally despite JY making such claims and the main thing is that the chains of transmission are broken to the maximum extent possible.

NSW can do it’s own thing as 1/3 of the national population.

 

[jakeseven7]

Interesting (hopefully coincidence) that the 'outbreak' of mystery cases happened soon after Step 2 Melbourne was taken. Perhaps pent-up need to get out of Stage 4 'lockdown'.

Perhaps they need also to follow NSW's model of not caring how long it takes to link mystery cases. I do vaguely recall at least an instance of a mystery case being linked more than 48 hours later.

No one ever agreed to the 48 hour limit it was a flimsy defence stuttered out from Dr Young (#1 most wanted in NSW / QLD CHO) when she made up another rule on the run to keep NSW locked out of QLD....

Obviously the faster a case is linked the better but still good to be linked v not at all!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Perhaps they need also to follow NSW's model of not caring how long it takes to link mystery cases. I do vaguely recall at least an instance of a mystery case being linked more than 48 hours later.

Well no need to follow, as the two tables I showed from the CHO would indicate that they do amend the mystery cases as data is known and or/corrected. This is also the case with all the other data measures as cases get reclassified.

Plus genomic sequencing can also lean to later linking.

However having said that, the urgency about mystery cases early on is that they want to prevent other infections from occurring from the person that infected the mystery case. They may well link it say two weeks later by genomic sequencing, or contact tracing, but in that time a bunch of other people may have been infected.

 

[flyingfan]

15 - 0

Please come down!!!

 

[jakeseven7]

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Victorian business owner to sue government
A Victorian hotelier will challenge Melbourne's coronavirus lockdown laws in the High Court.

Hotel owner Julian Gerner argues the Victorian Government's restrictive coronavirus measures are unnecessary, are harming the economy and denying residents' basic freedoms under the Constitution.

Mr Gerner owns a hotel and restaurant in the seaside town of Sorrento, on Victoria's Mornington Peninsular.

He's confirmed he will lodge a writ in the High Court today, seeking a declaration that the coronavirus lockdown is disproportionate and inconsistent with a free society.

Mr Gerner has engaged top Victorian barrister Bret Walker, who recently represented Cardinal George Pell in his successful High Court challenge.

...from abc Covid live blog

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Victorian Secretary of the Department of Premier and Cabinet resigns

Chris Eccles, Secretary of the Department of Premier and Cabinet, has announced his resignation effective immediately.

I have taken this decision with a sense of clarity that to remain in this position would be a significant distraction to the ongoing work of the Victorian public sector and the citizens of our state as we enter a critical phase of easing COVID-19 restrictions.

It is also with clarity that I reaffirm the evidence I provided to the COVID-19 Hotel Quarantine Board of Inquiry and the Department's closing submission to the Board.

My evidence is emphatic that neither myself nor the Department of Premier and Cabinet made a decision to use private security as part of the Hotel Quarantine Program.

Mr Eccles did then clarify some of his testimony to the Royal Commission.

I gave evidence that while I did not recall whether I telephoned former Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton in response to a text message he sent me at 1:16pm on 27 March 2020, I may have. Further, I gave evidence that although I did not recall telephoning Mr Ashton at that particular time, it was my normal practice to get back to the then Chief Commissioner when he contacted me.

Under cross examination I provided an answer to a related question that was inconsistent with the totality of my evidence and the meaning I was intending to convey. This was not my intention, as I believe was made very clear by my written statement and further oral evidence. At the time I gave evidence I did not have in my possession my full telephone records.

More to come on this one.


...from abc Covid live blog

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Apparently Melbourne schools (excluding years 8-10) resumes today

 

[jase05]

Dan’s house of cards is tumbling around him it seems.
Eccles statement was bizarre “I may have phoned him, can’t really recall. I definitely didn’t tell him to use private security, definitely remember that bit…”

 

[33kft]

He may be right. He might have let the premier borrow his phone

 

[Lynda2475]

Apparently Melbourne schools (excluding years 8-10) resumes today

and one that reopened last week has already had to close today indefinitely as a student has Corvid.

 

[jakeseven7]

and one that reopened last week has already had to close today indefinitely as a student has Corvid.

Indefinitely is a bit dramatic don't you think.... It will be like NSW, shut, contact trace, isolate, deep clean, reopen.

Rinse repeat, many times.

Several Sydney schools were closed multiple times, will be same in Melbourne.

 

[Lynda2475]

Indefinitely is a bit dramatic don't you thin

Meant to say "unknown" period of time, which was what the principal said.

Whereas in Sydney, schools close for 1-2 days for cleaning and to identify students/staff that need to stay home and then reopen. The period of closure is normally announced up front.

 

[Lynda2475]

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Sutton did flag yesterday that there were moving towards asking all "casual" contacts of a positive case to get tested rather than just "close" contacts. If so then that would mean more people initially testing and isolating whenever a new positive case is identified than in the past in Victoria, and also in comparison to other states.

 

[jakeseven7]

Meant to say "unknown" period of time, which was what the principal said.

Whereas in Sydney, schools close for 1-2 days for cleaning and to identify students/staff that need to stay home and then reopen. The period of closure is normally announced up front.

Thought there was no way that was the 'official' statement, clearly a flustered principal got cornered by the media....

The official approach for schools is exactly the same in VIC as it is NSW.

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Dr Young will not be pleased with NSW's testing rates

 

[blackcat20]

Aren’t qld testing rates similarly low?

 

[Lynda2475]

Aren’t qld testing rates similarly low?

Yep much lower, in last 24 hours and over all

Yesterday:

NSW tests = 7,391 (0.09% of the state population)
QLD tests = 1,987 (0.03% of the state population)

Last week:

NSW = 72,374 (0.88% of state pop)
QLD = 28,133 (0.54 % of state pop)

Life to date:

NSW = 2.818M (34 % of state pop)
QLD = 1.158M (22% of state pop)