Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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I didn’t say anything like that as you are well aware ;).

Weirdly over 7 days they managed to put everything into a containment situation involving over 1200 people. Very mixed cultural group of 90 people into hotels. And you say that isn’t better than the 14 days of eventual discovery with the Shepparton situation. Go figure.

29 July to 7 August would be 9 days.

Or you could say that rule breaking, mistakes and slow actions created a situation in SA that had that number forced to isolate if one wanted to be negative.

You were holding it up as an example of what should have been done, whereas in that cluster what did occur, and if you apply that same performance to the truck driver as to the 20 year old you have a situation that would not have prevented Kilmore or Shepperton.

Initial performance in that cluster was actually worse with slower test results and a business that should have been closed being allowed to operate.

The 20 year was allowed to be spreader, but did not jump in a vehicle and drive to country towns to seed it there and then hide/lie about visiting one of those towns.


And you say that isn’t better than the 14 days of eventual discovery with the Shepparton situation. Go figure.

Go figure? If that 20 year had driven through rural SA and hidden where she had been then yes the cases most probably would have kept popping up later as they did in Shepperton. That they did not is purely the relative behaviours and travel patterns of the 20 year and the truck driver.


Today was actually good news for Vic. That SA quenched the Thebarton Cluster was good news too, but the facts are that had mistakes made early on, and like with the truck diver then became larger than it should have due the rule breaking and dishonesty of at least two individuals in each cluster. Perhaps 3 as we do not know what the son said and when (So it may be just the truck diver and the cleaner).
 
As people are people, and some are born rule breakers the me first sorts, how about loading up quarantine people with Dr Brody's Ivermectin triple, as well as say interstate truck drivers who stop anyway. This way nookiegate incidents will be mitigated. IF they want to minimise risk. I think NSW has the balance right, and an A class tracing team.
 
Majority of Shepparton tests returned, all negative

And there's even more good news for Victorians, this time for the people of Shepparton.

Nearly 5000 people (4931 to be exact) have turned up to be tested so far in Shepparton after three people contracted the virus from the truck driver connected to the Chadstone cluster. The DHHS set up 11 rapid response testing stations to test locals and were praised by Shepparton residents for their speed and support of their local community.

"The vast majority of Wednesday's tests are back with us and they are negative," Premier Daniel Andrews said.

 
We should never take into account returning Hotel travellers especially when NSW is doing the lions share of the work for Australia.
Agreed, maybe they should stop publishing it now...

As we move onto the next phase of accepting more returnees and the subsequent phase of overseas arrivals, we need to be tracking the infection rate of people entering the country, and constantly reviewing the risks, the processes and procedures that are most appropriate for the changing environment as the pandemic progresses.

IMHO Ceasing counting the number of infections in hotel quarantine and not constantly monitoring the effectiveness and risks because we would prefer not to know is counterproductive.
 
IMHO Ceasing counting the number of infections in hotel quarantine and not constantly monitoring the effectiveness and risks because we would prefer not to know is counterproductive.
Yes of course we need to be first class at this because we know what happens when systems fail. It is not a matter of ‘prefer not to know’ but rather, effectively manage that information for best interpretation.

It is statements like “in absolute terms <insert relevant state>has recorded worse numbers than <insert another relevant state> “ that I think aren’t helpful in the overall management of COVID and state cooperation in the repatriation of overseas Aussies. We need the various state Governments to feel secure that their decision to assist in the repatriation process is not misinterpreted by their voting populations.
 
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their decision to assist in the repatriation process is not will definitely be misinterpreted by a percentage of their voting populations.

Fixed that. ;) We have a diverse population whereby any decision will be wrong in the eyes of some :rolleyes:
 
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Repatriation flights into DRW and quarantine hotels will be a nice little earner for the NT coming into Wet (low) season where tourists are scarce, given they were closed to Vic and NSW over the peak dry season.
 
And speaking of Victorian Mystery Cases today, we had one at home today...


This is Buddy one of our two male coughatiels


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We used to have two males, but one died. So we got a replacement so our first bird had a pal for company.

However by the instant behaviour of the the then new coughatiel and the excited existing male it was pretty obvious that he was a he was a she.

So back to the birdshop to swap the new bird for another new coughatiel and where they then they supplied a guaranteed male. However 8 months later there was something unexpected in the seed bowl this morning.

And yes that is a pic of Buddy, obviously a not so male coughatiel.

So Buddy's Case has now been Reclassified from Male to Female.
 
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Vic DHHS Dalily Media Release
16 October 2020

Of note particular note is:

  • the surveillance wastewater testing has on 13 Oct returned a presumptive positive for Covid 19 at Kilmore. This is reassuring that the surveillance is a valid method given the recent cluster of cases in Kilmore.
  • and the index case for the Box Hill Hospital Cluster.

Selected parts:

The Department of Health and Human Services is working with local health services to contain an outbreak of coronavirus in Shepparton. There are three cases in Shepparton, which is no change from yesterday.

We have increased testing capacity in Shepparton, with 2489 tests taken yesterday in Shepparton, as well as 580 tests in Benalla, Kyabram, Cobram, Nathalia and Numurkah. In total we have tested 4931 people so far.

If you have visited any of the high-risk locations below during the dates and times identified you should get tested and quarantine for 14 days. Even if you don’t have any symptoms or only mild symptoms.


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Victoria has recorded two new cases of coronavirus since yesterday, with the total number of cases now at 20,317.

There have been no new deaths from COVID-19 reported since yesterday. To date, 816 people have died from coronavirus in Victoria.

One of today’s new cases is a household contact of an existing case.

The other case, which remains under investigation, relates to a patient at the Royal Children’s Hospital.


Of today’s two new cases, there are single cases in Greater Dandenong and Knox.


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The 17 mystery cases in the last 14 days (30 Sep 2020 – 13 Oct 2020) are located in the following postcodes, 3015, 3019, 3024, 3025 (two cases), 3027, 3037, 3046, 3047, 3073 (two cases), 3130, 3147, 3173, 3175, 3184 and 3977.


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Victoria has increased its surveillance of wastewater for viral fragments of coronavirus, with samples now being taken from more than 42 metropolitan and regional sites. Testing of wastewater can show if coronavirus is present in a local community.

A wastewater test result in Kilmore on 13 October is a presumptive positive and requires further confirmation. A positive test result would be expected given clinical testing results in the area.


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Non-aged care outbreaks with the highest number of active cases include:

  • 13 active cases are currently linked to the Chadstone Shopping Centre (total cases: 38)
  • 12 active cases are currently linked to the Box Hill Hospital (total cases: 14)
  • 9 cases are linked to the south-eastern community (total cases: 9)
  • 5 active cases are currently linked to the Frankston Family (total cases: 13)
  • 4 active cases are currently linked to the Oddfellows Café in Kilmore (total cases: 6)
  • 4 active cases are currently linked to the Elwood community (total cases: 4)
Following investigation, it is believed the index case for the Box Hill Hospital outbreak was a patient cared for on the COVID ward. Investigations continue into avenues of transmission from that ward to other areas of the hospital.
 
NSW mystery case watch

Today’s reports indicate
- 4 in the past 7 days
- 2 in the period 8-14 days
- 0 in the period 15-28 days
- 28 that are more than 28 days but since before Crossroads emerged
 
Ah, only Victorians go to SE Qld. Never see a Queenslander there for dead!:p

I much prefer FNQ. I only go to SEQ for business purposes.

And while some like the Gold Coast, for myself holiday wise it is Hell on Earth. Those with kids who are them park age may disagree. We however once had a French Exchange student living with us, an on asking her what she most wanted to do in Australia she nominated visiting the Gold Coast. By coincidence I had a business trip to the GC during her stay with us and so we surprised her with a brief holiday there.

We arrived at night and the look of wonder on her face as she walked out on the 14th floor balcony at night was a delight to witness.

The next morning she was not so thrilled though as we took her down for her first swim ever in the surf, and with her being only used to the very flat Mediterranean previous sea experience she was not at all prepared for the power of the surf and promptly got smashed and dumped when she rushed into her first wave. I felt a bit guilty afterwards as having grown up with the surf I took it for granted and should have prepared her better. That we were all initially laughing like we would normally do when someone gets dumped did not help.
 
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With Melbourne Cup Day approaching maybe we should have a sweep on when Melbourne will have its first day of zero new daily cases. ;)

I will go for Monday 19th Oct.
 
Unknowns still at 17 over the past 2 weeks unfortunately. While it will start to drop off due to the low numbers of cases over the last 48 hours, sadly it is concerning that when cases have been high, the proportions of unknowns have also been relatively high.

We can only hope these low cases allow tracing to improve should any new clusters arise.
 
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