Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[drron]

QLD Health appear to be slow learners for the second time in 2 weeks a worker working in the Covid ward at the PA Hospital has not been vaccinated and become Covid positive.You would really think that those actually working with Covid patients would be the first vaccinated.
But I would guess the Hospital Administration have been vaccinated.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Agree it's difficult but if it can't be linked then possibly there are still other cases floating around.

Well even if was 100% linked with no doubt, there is still quite likely to be other cases floating around due the time period involved. Some of whom might have already recovered. Luck now comes into play as to whether any individuals had high viral loads and were close to many people for reasonable periods of time.

It is also why I personally am a fan of the two ring method where you test everyone that may be a second ring contact. That way you are more likely to choke off any new transmission chain rather than more relying on people showing symptoms as that way you miss the asymptomatic spreaders.

Right now Qld Health need to tracking down every likely contact and testing them, and due to time delay both PSR and Serology would be a good idea.

 

[Princess Fiona]

QLD Health appear to be slow learners for the second time in 2 weeks a worker working in the Covid ward at the PA Hospital has not been vaccinated and become Covid positive.You would really think that those actually working with Covid patients would be the first vaccinated.
But I would guess the Hospital Administration have been vaccinated.

I think I read that the nurse was on annual leave and so had not been vaccinated.
Also it’s not compulsory to have the vaccine. I think it’s only a matter of time before we see a HCW or quarantine staff who gets this having refused to have the vaccine.
Note I’m not in any way stating that this was the case with any of the infections so far.

 

[jase05]

Also it’s not compulsory to have the vaccine. I think it’s only a matter of time before we see a HCW or quarantine staff who gets this having refused to have the vaccine.

That’s where I don’t think the government is tough enough. No jab, no job

 

[Flying mermaid]

That’s where I don’t think the government is tough enough. No jab, no job

WA said that a few days ago - anyone in HQ who was refusing to be vaccinated would have to be moved elsewhere.

 

[jakeseven7]

WA said that a few days ago - anyone in HQ who was refusing to be vaccinated would have to be moved elsewhere.

WA have come a long way from not bothering to have HQ staff wearing masks to enforcing vaccines!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

That’s where I don’t think the government is tough enough. No jab, no job

Though playing the Devil's Advocate in Qld you may have had HCWs who will have had become quasi-Quarantine workers due to the decision to move all positive cases to hospitals. It would be interesting to know if this was so, or whether it was all voluntary. Most of the HCWs I know here in Victoria just accepted willingly the risk when their duties included Covid patients. The biggest influx being when the aged care sector had may residents from positive facilities transferred to them. Certainly here in Melbourne various wards were just declared to be Covid or Scovid Wards at times, in addition to some that were set up as new special units.

Whereas the workers in HQ or Hot-Hotels will most likely have all made a conscious employment decision to work there knowing that Covid 19 was a risk and that various protocols would be required.

 

[moa999]

Also it’s not compulsory to have the vaccine. I think it’s only a matter of time before we see a HCW or quarantine staff who gets this having refused to have the vaccine.

Gotta say
That should be compulsory if you work in a Covid ward. If you want to skip the vaccine you can work elsewhere in the healthcare system.

And at a minimum if you had somehow missed the vaccine and work in a high risk environment you shouldn't be holidaying interstate.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Gotta say
That should be compulsory if you work in a Covid ward. If you want to skip the vaccine you can work elsewhere in the healthcare system.

And at a minimum if you had somehow missed the vaccine and work in a high risk environment you shouldn't be holidaying interstate.

It’s not compulsory at all. I personally don’t agree with this and think that similar to Flu vax if you are Category A then it should be compulsory.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Though playing the Devil's Advocate in Qld you may have had HCWs who will have had become quasi-Quarantine workers due to the decision to move all positive cases to hospitals. It would be interesting to know if this was so, or whether it was all voluntary. Most of the HCWs I know here in Victoria just accepted willingly the risk. Certainly here in Melbourne various wards were just declared to be Covid or Scovid Wards at times, in addition to some that were set up as new special units.

Whereas the workers in HQ or Hot-Hotels will most likely have all made a conscious employment decision to work there knowing that Covid 19 was a risk and that various protocols would be required.

As said previously, I’m not surprised “covid-close” hospital workers around the country are not 1-jab vaccinated yet.

I’m surprised that after all the gab-fest about daily testing/shift testing that they didn’t at least roll it out for hospital workers that have contact with covid patients in the last 28 days.

Seems unfortunate that government has decided to distinguish between covid-close hospital workers and quarantine when arguably the risks of getting covid are about the same.

On the point others have made I think it’s more reasonable to have unvaccinated staff reallocated to other duties/areas than just firing them after say 1 month of being offered a jab. This would seem more possible for hospital workers though.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

As said previously, I’m not surprised “covid-close” hospital workers around the country are not 1-jab vaccinated yet.

I’m surprised that after all the gab-fest about daily testing/shift testing that they didn’t at least roll it out for hospital workers that have contact with covid patients in the last 28 days.

Seems unfortunate that government has decided to distinguish between covid-close hospital workers and quarantine when arguably the risks of getting covid are about the same.

On the point others have made I think it’s more reasonable to have unvaccinated staff reallocated to other duties/areas than just firing them after say 1 month of being offered a jab. This would seem more possible for hospital workers though.

I don't disagree. I was raising it as that staff in this situation should have the choice to be re-assigned.



Personally I think it odd that "healthy" Covid positive cases are in the Queensland Hospitals at all.

In addition to the reason mentioned by other it is tying up medical resources that I assume is displacing patients with other illnesses.

With a daughter who works in a respiratory and infectious diseases ward I know that in taking on Covid patients that it displaced many of their normal patients, though at least those Covid patient were quite ill. If they took on board "healthy" Covid patients that would have displaced other patients.

 

[kamchatsky]

8 new cases today at QLD. 2 clusters. Bye bye Easter holiday

 

[MelMel]

As said previously, I’m not surprised “covid-close” hospital workers around the country are not 1-jab vaccinated yet.

I’m surprised that after all the gab-fest about daily testing/shift testing that they didn’t at least roll it out for hospital workers that have contact with covid patients in the last 28 days.

Seems unfortunate that government has decided to distinguish between covid-close hospital workers and quarantine when arguably the risks of getting covid are about the same.

On the point others have made I think it’s more reasonable to have unvaccinated staff reallocated to other duties/areas than just firing them after say 1 month of being offered a jab. This would seem more possible for hospital workers though.

 

[Must...Fly!]

I feel it is now untenable to continue having primary healthcare staff working with COVID positive patients being unvaccinated.

I believe in choice but when the consequences of relatively low caseloads are so extreme as to impinge on the liberties of all, then removing the choice of the few is possibly the lesser of two evils? A moral/ethics question, I guess.

 

[jakeseven7]

I believe in choice but when the consequences of relatively low caseloads are so extreme as to impinge on the liberties of all, then removing the choice of the few is possibly the lesser of two evils? A moral/ethics question, I guess.

I don't believe in choice for some professions....

 

[jakeseven7]

8 new cases today at QLD. 2 clusters. Bye bye Easter holiday

Watching the QLD CHO at the press conference, what a train wreck.... and talk about absconding all accountability...

QLD Health have very clearly dropped the ball here and have created this mess.

Now we have to rely on them mopping up the aftermath and we have also exported our mess to NSW at the same time.

 

[NM]

It’s not compulsory at all. I personally don’t agree with this and think that similar to Flu vax if you are Category A then it should be compulsory.

In my workplace (when people are actually in an office), those who have Fed Government/Defense security clearance have an identifying spot/mark/notation on their company issued ID badge. In some offices there are sections where only cleared staff may enter. Clarence is not compulsory for all staff, but only cleared staff can work on projects that require clearance.

Many staff do not undertake the security clearance process as they believe it is too invasive. That is their choice. But without the "qualification" they cannot work on certain projects and cannot enter certain restricted areas. Those who have undertaken, completed and maintain the clearance process may be perceived by management as more valuable and as a result may be compensated according to their value to the company.

So I would expect that those that choose not to be vaccinated or have not yet been vaccinated due to things like being on annual leave, would work in areas that are not likely to be in contact with COVID-positive patients. Its not necessarily a matter if no jab, no job, but a matter of assigning people to the areas for which they are "qualified" and vaccination could well be considered part of the required qualification process for working in high-risk locations. Just like someone who is trained to use a specific piece of equipment or to perform a specific task is required to undertake certain tasks in many work places, such as working at height, or working in confined spaces etc.

 

[Lynda2475]

But also they can just stuff up like the NSW Health Minister who outed the band involved in the Avalon Cluster.

The band was public information, all ome had to do was look at the entertainment roster for the venue - hardly an outing.

 

[jase05]

Oh dear


Dr Young says one of the positive cases in that second cluster attended a hens party at Byron Bay as an entertainer.

"And he came back and he lives in the Gold Coast and he works as a tradie, and he did go to an aged care facility in the Gold Coast. But every resident in that aged care facility has already been vaccinated, had their first dose. I haven’t got confirmation about whether any have received their second dose.

 

[Carrots]

Oh dear


Dr Young says one of the positive cases in that second cluster attended a hens party at Byron Bay as an entertainer.

"And he came back and he lives in the Gold Coast and he works as a tradie, and he did go to an aged care facility in the Gold Coast. But every resident in that aged care facility has already been vaccinated, had their first dose. I haven’t got confirmation about whether any have received their second dose.

Is it wrong to chuckle......?

Entertainer, at a hens party..... so he was a waiter serving coughtails drinks?