Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Pushka]

Perhaps they feel lucky that covid is all they caught.

Too soon for other tests yet.....

 

[Flying mermaid]

But this is what I'm finding. What are the odds of a person like a Nurse from Qld, contracting Covid and going to Byron while infectious, for a hens party, infecting her sister, and the umm, entertainer, who then returns to Brisbane and attends a Nursing home? All these random events just seem to happen.

It’s emotionally what worries me, but logically it shouldn’t happen.

 

[Pushka]

The err, waiter, has now been confirmed as, a stripper! You gotta or else you'd

 

[Flying mermaid]

The err, waiter, has now been confirmed as, a stripper! You gotta or else you'd

Was there ever any doubt?

 

[Must...Fly!]

Was there ever any doubt?

No

I don't really care to be honest, it's his choice of job and not illegal as far as I know? Just very unfortunate that it's ended up this way

 

[DC3]

Perhaps they feel lucky that covid is all they caught.

The jury may still be out on that.

 

[suze2000]

I just don't understand why oh why we haven't learnt from the Victorian experience and implemented daily testing on workers in covid areas. It's not a huge impost and would have prevented this from happening. They do saliva swabs rather than nasal I believe, which means they aren't unpleasant at all, so I can't see the issue with doing this. And I'm fully supportive of no jab, no you can't work here, go work over there policies. (TBH, I would be no jab, no job at all (unless real medical exemption), but *eyeroll* apparently that's not PC)

 

[DC3]

Agree. Depends on how those hens partied in Byron as to how far damage is already done.

I may have missed it earlier, but the ABC has reported 5 x attendees at the hens gig as COVID-positive, one being the ‘tradie’. So, I guess that the nurse and her sister are part of that.

 

[MooTime]

I just don't understand why oh why we haven't learnt from the Victorian experience and implemented daily testing on workers in covid areas. It's not a huge impost and would have prevented this from happening. They do saliva swabs rather than nasal I believe, which means they aren't unpleasant at all, so I can't see the issue with doing this. And I'm fully supportive of no jab, no you can't work here, go work over there policies. (TBH, I would be no jab, no job at all (unless real medical exemption), but *eyeroll* apparently that's not PC)

Exactly, having covid in the community is the death sentence for the state economies, tourism, health sector, business sector etc etc, yet precautions are treated so so poorly with the excuse 'we'll continue to review our procedures in relation to HQ & covid contact'

Test anyone that works in any proximity to covid patients in any degree. How bloody hard is it?

I continue to believe we need a vaccine that stops people getting the virus in the 1st place and/or spreading it.....until then I see it unlikely much will change from present environment until that vaccine comes, guessing 2022 at best.
Aus Premiers apart from Gladys want an elimination zero policy. Less severe symptons won't cut it IMO.

 

[DC3]

... we need a vaccine that stops people getting the virus in the 1st place and/or spreading it.....until then I see it unlikely much will change from present environment until that vaccine comes, guessing 2022 at best ...

Biden, health officials sound alarm as signs of COVID surge proliferate — The Washington Post

“... vaccine effectiveness study released by the CDC. It found that among 4,000 health-care personnel, police, firefighters and other essential workers, vaccines reduced the risk of infection by 80 percent after one shot and 90 percent after two ...”

 

[Lynda2475]

Updated graphic in this article supports that there are unknowns and not a direct event/person linking the Doctor and the Landscaper (and his contract traced connections). Where there is a direct link there is a line between people, whereas if there is just genomic results no line (as the connection has not been identified i.e is a mystery).

How Brisbane's two coronavirus clusters have spread in the community

Brisbane's lockdown was triggered by two separate clusters that both originated from the same hospital at different times. Here's how the infection has spread.

www.abc.net.au

 

[RooFlyer]

Since yesterday, when Tas declared 5 SE QLD LGAs red zones and asked everyone who arrived from there since 20 March to self isolate and get tested, the Public Heath Hotline (which you call to book a covid test) has been jammed and hours waiting in the drive-through testing places. Many people complaining of trying to phone dozens of times today and just getting cut off or recorded message to call back later.

As I've mentioned before, God help us if there is actually a community case reported here.

 

[MooTime]

Biden, health officials sound alarm as signs of COVID surge proliferate — The Washington Post

“... vaccine effectiveness study released by the CDC. It found that among 4,000 health-care personnel, police, firefighters and other essential workers, vaccines reduced the risk of infection by 80 percent after one shot and 90 percent after two ...”

Thanks but all that article tells me is that younger people are increasing in numbers in hospitals & older people are appearing less in hospitals.
The spread is still there as their 7 day rolling average is still increasing. Which it states is the strongest indicator of spread.

It's the UK variant that is having the more serious effects in terms of spread & more severe symptons. As the article states.

My point remains that aslong as we have cases, especially he UK variant, borders will continue to close & premiers acting irrationally.

 

[dajop]

& premiers acting irrationally.

Depends on how you define irrational.

 

[DC3]

Thanks but all that article tells me is that younger people are increasing in numbers in hospitals & older people are appearing less in hospitals ..

73% of those aged over 65 in the US have now received at least one dose. Their hospitalisation rates have dropped to insignificant numbers.

The younger ones have not received a dose as yet. They are being hospitalised in increasing numbers.

However, a study in the US of 4,000, has shown an infection drop of COVID cases by 80%-90% after vaccination. That was the bit that I was trying to highlight.

 

[MooTime]

Depends on how you define irrational.

I'll refrain.....Premiers acting how they have been until now.
I preface that I don't want covid in the community no more than the next person. Just think little more could be done to prevent it getting out of HQ & from hospital in the QLD case. Billions$$$ lost on these events in all sectors so cost is of no issue to secure these 'Covid Houdini escapes' a little better.
cheers

 

[dk4]

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This shows the "nurse cluster" primarily represents a community transmission event in NSW!

Which quite frankly IMO makes ByronBay/NorthernRivers/NorthCoast a hot spot for transmission! (Regardless of the origin/destination of the hen's night participants.)

 

[DC3]

... The spread is still there as their 7 day rolling average is still increasing. Which it states is the strongest indicator of spread ...

It seems to be the younger (unvaccinated) ones that are pushing up the infection rate, and not the “oldies”, three-quarters of whom have had a shot.

 

[Pushka]

This shows the "nurse cluster" primarily represents a community transmission event in NSW!

Which quite frankly IMO makes ByronBay/NorthernRivers/NorthCoast a hot spot for transmission! (Regardless of the origin/destination of the hen's night participants.)

Actually that is spot on! Oops.

 

[suze2000]

Disagree that Premiers closing borders is irrational.

Having lived through the Melbourne lockdown and then travelled through NSW to QLD in November last year, I would do ANYTHING to avoid another year like that. If that means jettisoning the other states, and not seeing family and friends except by zoom, I'm fine with it. There's too much at stake in terms of our economic and mental health for us to risk going through that again.

Even the announcement that QLD had cases triggered a PTSD-like response in a number of people I know. We can't do it again.