Australian state border restrictions

[nutwood]

Though I have relations who say they are pleased they are being 'kept safe' in WA.

I can understand it. Although our business is reliant on interstate travel, when I'm back in Tassie, it's very peaceful. If I loved writing reports, I could probably concentrate on consulting roles and barely leave home. Get up in the morning, breakfast on the deck, gazing across the river. Feed the magpies, do a bit of work, crack a bottle of Iron Pot SBS (feed magpies again) and generally chill.
It's actually very easy to be insular.

 

[antycbr]

I can understand it. Although our business is reliant on interstate travel, when I'm back in Tassie, it's very peaceful. If I loved writing reports, I could probably concentrate on consulting roles and barely leave home. Get up in the morning, breakfast on the deck, gazing across the river. Feed the magpies, do a bit of work, crack a bottle of Iron Pot SBS (feed magpies again) and generally chill.
It's actually very easy to be insular.

Meanwhile the people that make that breakfast in the northwest suburbs of Melbourne at at abattoir processing bacon take all the risk then go home to their inter generational families in cramped living conditions.

Next door at the international airport people unload aircraft carrying freight and mail from the US, China and other parts of the world with rampant covid.

It’s easy to stay behind a locked border when you outsource everything with risk to the other side of that border.

Not a reflection on you but an observation of the attitudes of people in states that aren’t exposed to the same level of risk, then lecture NSW and VIC about their “failures”

 

[oz_mark]

He is literally begging for a high court challenge with that commentary.

I am starting to wonder if his exit plan is to be able to blame someone else when it gets in. And all the better if it's those people over east.

 

[antycbr]

I am starting to wonder if his exit plan is to be able to blame someone else when it gets in. And all the better if it's those people over east.

Excuse me, we go by the name “covid-riddled east” thanks very much…

 

[Pushka]

Though I have relations who say they are pleased they are being 'kept safe' in WA.

SIL is like this. Her son is in Melbourne.

 

[Must...Fly!]

I am starting to wonder if his exit plan is to be able to blame someone else when it gets in. And all the better if it's those people over east.

There is no doubt this is the play, every week he buys gives his government time to fix their disastrous hospital system.

 

[jakeseven7]

Though I have relations who say they are pleased they are being 'kept safe' in WA.

Equally I have family devastated they are still trapped in WA, missing literally the whole family that have now been cleared by the non Grinch premiers to meet in Melbourne for Christmas. Even the Tasmanians.

All because the WA government have butchered their vaccine rollout and simply don’t have the gumption to move forward with life. It’s really awful.

 

[oz_mark]

Equally I have family devastated they are still trapped in WA, missing literally the whole family that have now been cleared by the non Grinch premiers to meet in Melbourne for Christmas. Even the Tasmanians.

All because the WA government have butchered their vaccine rollout and simply don’t have the gumption to move forward with life. It’s really awful.

Although the flock would say that there is nothing stopping them from travelling to Melbourne for Christmas.

Never mind the reverse Hotel California situation they would find themselves in.

 

[nutwood]

Meanwhile the people that make that breakfast in the northwest suburbs of Melbourne at at abattoir processing bacon take all the risk then go home to their inter generational families in cramped living conditions.

Next door at the international airport people unload aircraft carrying freight and mail from the US, China and other parts of the world with rampant covid.

It’s easy to stay behind a locked border when you outsource everything with risk to the other side of that border.

Not a reflection on you but an observation of the attitudes of people in states that aren’t exposed to the same level of risk, then lecture NSW and VIC about their “failures”

That was precisely my point, although you are muddying the waters by involving socioeconomics. There'd be plenty of people in Tasmania and WA, working in abattoirs and unloading freight, who'd be just as passionate about keeping borders closed.
From my observations and conversations, it's more likely to be people in higher income brackets who want the nonsense to end. Probably mainly from good old personal benefit, but possibly also because of a more nuanced appreciation of risk.

 

[openseat]

Though I have relations who say they are pleased they are being 'kept safe' in WA.

Yes, I too know people there who have the same view. Safe under the protection of Daddy McGowan.

 

[RooFlyer]

It’s easy to stay behind a locked border when you outsource everything with risk to the other side of that border.

Not a reflection on you but an observation of the attitudes of people in states that aren’t exposed to the same level of risk, then lecture NSW and VIC about their “failures”

I largely agree, but thankfully in the case of Tasmania our Premier has never resorted to taunting other states or critiquing their responses. Its always been a very polite “That’s the way to HQ and that’ll be $3000 please.”

And I’m pleased that our visiting drron has said a number of times that the state authorities have been compassionate when exemptions or ‘special visits’ have been requested from people coming from ‘high risk’ jurisdictions.

 

[antycbr]

I largely agree, but thankfully in the case of Tasmania our Premier has never resorted to taunting other states or critiquing their responses. Its always been a very polite “That’s the way to HQ and that’ll be $3000 please.”

And I’m pleased that our visiting drron has said a number of times that the state authorities have been compassionate when exemptions or ‘special visits’ have been requested from people coming from ‘high risk’ jurisdictions.

Tasmania can't afford to lecture anyone as they need us back ASAP for the tourism industry, unlike other states who have been happy to dissuade as many people as possible from ever wanting to visit again.

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

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And I’m pleased that our visiting drron has said a number of times that the state authorities have been compassionate when exemptions or ‘special visits’ have been requested from people coming from ‘high risk’ jurisdictions.

And he is not talking about me - no special treatment for me - I was locked out when the sunshine coast became a red zone earlier this year !!

 

[Ric]

And he is not talking about me - no special treatment for me - I was locked out when the sunshine coast became a red zone earlier this year !!

And he did not apply for an exemption for you as his primary caretaker?? Tsk! Tsk!
May I ask how long has he been sleeping at the lounge?

Back on topic:
I am quite confused about border restrictions (or no restrictions) after reading so much information. Brain overloaded.
I am about to travel to Melbourne from Sydney in the morning and coming back in the evening.
I take it that I do not need to apply for any travel permit/exemption to go to Melbourne and also nothing for coming back.
Just need some experts' assurance that my reading to the situation is right.
Thanks.

 

[TomVexille]

And he did not apply for an exemption for you as his primary caretaker?? Tsk! Tsk!
May I ask how long has he been sleeping at the lounge?

Back on topic:
I am quite confused about border restrictions (or no restrictions) after reading so much information. Brain overloaded.
I am about to travel to Melbourne from Sydney in the morning and coming back in the evening.
I take it that I do not need to apply for any travel permit/exemption to go to Melbourne and also nothing for coming back.
Just need some experts' assurance that my reading to the situation is right.
Thanks.

I believe that you'll need an Orange Zone permit to enter Melbourne from Sydney.

Orange zones​

If you are fully vaccinated:

If you have been in an orange zone at any time since the zone started over the last 14 days, and you have received both doses of the COVID-19 vaccine, you can get an orange zone permit at Service Victoria to enter Victoria.

You must follow all Directions in place and monitor for symptoms while you are in Victoria and get tested if any develop.

 

[Ric]

I believe that you'll need an Orange Zone permit to enter Melbourne from Sydney.

Thank you @TomVexille
I will need to apply one then. I think coming back to Sydney I have to do a Health declaration or no more?

 

[Princess Fiona]

Thank you @TomVexille
I will need to apply one then. I think coming back to Sydney I have to do a Health declaration or no more?

Nope nothing required from today unless you have been to a close contact location.

 

[nutwood]

Tasmania can't afford to lecture anyone as they need us back ASAP for the tourism industry, unlike other states who have been happy to dissuade as many people as possible from ever wanting to visit again.

I'm not sure we're as dependent on tourism as people seem to think. Obviously there are small businesses based on tourism but from my observations, a lot of the tourist $ disappears back out of the State as organisations such as Federal Hotels are not based in the State.
I suspect we're a bit different to Queensland in that tourism is very seasonal. If a business is entirely dependent on interstate tourism, they'll starve come winter.

 

[drron]

Though this winter they did very well as virtually no where else to go. NSW and Victoria only went into prolonged lockdown in july
It was hard to get some restaurant bookings in May,June and beginning July.Recently no problem at all.

At least there are some in the bureaucracy that know all is not as it said.The Department Newsletter on the opening borders had a paragraph that stood out.
"On Friday 22 October the Premier announced the reopening plan for Tasmania and released information on preliminary scenarios for COVID cases and hospitalisation that have been modelled by the Kirby Institute.
As the website outlines, the modelling has helped us get a picture of what our hospitalisation rates could look like over the first few months and develop indicators of the system becoming overstretched. This provides time to implement further health measures and protect it from becoming overwhelmed.
It is very important to note that this is modelling, and not reality, and work will continue over coming weeks to test various scenarios in the model to avoid severe hospitalisation peaks or overwhelming our health system."

That bit should be in every press release re modelling.

 

[Ric]

Nope nothing required from today unless you have been to a close contact location.

Thank you @Princess Fiona