Australian state border restrictions

[Flashback]

Doubt it

Never say never.

 

[Must...Fly!]

It depends on the success of the measures to begin with. If WA manages to keep community transmission at zero for an extended period of time with the test before departure and on arrival measures then it will continue.

The reality as we all know is that these testing regimes and yet more borders are wholly inefficient and unrealistic in the long term.

 

[Flashback]

It depends on the success of the measures to begin with. If WA manages to keep community transmission at zero for an extended period of time with the test before departure and on arrival measures then it will continue.

The reality as we all know is that these testing regimes and yet more borders are wholly inefficient and unrealistic in the long term.

It's all just ....... fake news. This in endemic, they need to learn to live with it and get on with their lives.

 

[Must...Fly!]

It's all just ....... fake news. This in endemic, they need to learn to live with it and get on with their lives.

Something a friend just pointed out to me is that Perth is generally more right of centre in the political realm, which makes you wonder how long they'll be willing to accept the government intruding in to their lives instead of a NSW style approach.

Once the middle finger to the eastern states argument is gone (occurs when COVID arrives in WA) it will be a lot harder for McGowan.

The internal borders they are talking about within WA should be of significant concern. I don't view this as protecting vulnerable communities. The WA Government has a history of cutting off vulnerable indigenous communities "for their protection"

 

[OZDUCK]

Something a friend just pointed out to me is that Perth is generally more right of centre in the political realm, which makes you wonder how long they'll be willing to accept the government intruding in to their lives instead of a NSW style approach.

Once the middle finger to the eastern states argument is gone (occurs when COVID arrives in WA) it will be a lot harder for McGowan.

The internal borders they are talking about within WA should be of significant concern. I don't view this as protecting vulnerable communities. The WA Government has a history of cutting off vulnerable indigenous communities "for their protection"

The 'talking points' I saw said that the restriction would only apply to non-vaccinated persons. I may have misread the report but that was what I took away.

 

[Must...Fly!]

The 'talking points' I saw said that the restriction would only apply to non-vaccinated persons. I may have misread the report but that was what I took away.

I see. I haven't looked too closely at it, just what I heard from the press conference/releases.

Though I note this gem from the bottom of the FAQ on the WA Gov website.

Stricter measures could be introduced at any point where community transmission is deemed unacceptably high, based on health advice at the time.

The health advice written by...

 

[jakeseven7]

FC getting serious on state border restriction challenge - and using the fact WA has ignored the National plan of opening at 80%

Now I don’t like FC but I’m backing them on this one.

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Flight Centre CEO: ‘Good chance of success’ with High Court battle against WA


Flight Centre CEO Graham Turner says they believe they have a “good chance of success” when the company goes to the High Court to challenge Western Australia’s closed borders.

Mr Turner said section 92 of the constitution may be used, even though the last High Court challenge against the closed WA border used this and lost.

“We’ve got a couple of options up our sleeve; we haven’t decided what the direction is, but we believe we can take action pretty quickly,”

Commentators believe that by deviating from the national opening plan, WA has opened itself up to multiple legal angles of attack and may see a successful challenge mounted.

Flight Centre CEO: ‘Good chance of success’ with High Court battle against WA

Flight Centre CEO Graham Turner says they believe they have a "good chance of success" when the company goes to the High Court to challenge Western Australia’s closed borders. Mr Turner said section 92 of the constitution may be used, even though the last High Court challenge against the...

www.skynews.com.au

 

[Scarlett]

Never say never.

@Flashback and @jakeseven7: name a date and put a bottle red on it!

 

[exceladdict]

FC getting serious on state border restriction challenge - and using the fact WA has ignored the National plan of opening at 80%

Now I don’t like FC but I’m backing them on this one.

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Flight Centre CEO: ‘Good chance of success’ with High Court battle against WA


Flight Centre CEO Graham Turner says they believe they have a “good chance of success” when the company goes to the High Court to challenge Western Australia’s closed borders.

Mr Turner said section 92 of the constitution may be used, even though the last High Court challenge against the closed WA border used this and lost.

“We’ve got a couple of options up our sleeve; we haven’t decided what the direction is, but we believe we can take action pretty quickly,”

Commentators believe that by deviating from the national opening plan, WA has opened itself up to multiple legal angles of attack and may see a successful challenge mounted.

Flight Centre CEO: ‘Good chance of success’ with High Court battle against WA

Flight Centre CEO Graham Turner says they believe they have a "good chance of success" when the company goes to the High Court to challenge Western Australia’s closed borders. Mr Turner said section 92 of the constitution may be used, even though the last High Court challenge against the...

www.skynews.com.au

Honestly, is two or three more months worth a high court challenge?

 

[mviy]

FC getting serious on state border restriction challenge - and using the fact WA has ignored the National plan of opening at 80%

WA has just gone past 80% first dose for 16+, so in about a month's time they should be at the point where they should be opening up under the national plan.

 

[jakeseven7]

Honestly, is two or three more months worth a high court challenge?

Sounds like it’s also the principle being challenged to stop this sort of thing happening again… imagine if the bird flu came back and all the states slammed their borders shut at the drop of a hat, again…

Plus very rich people needing something to keep their lives interesting is also a cynic’s response

 

[Cddc]

Has anybody got any inside info on what covid test will be acceptable to enter QLD on 17 Dec? Will we be able to go to our state run clinics (in Vic) with 'hayfever' and show the negative result we receive via text? Will we have to go to a paid private clinic and get a PCR test with a print out? Will a rapid test from the supermarket suffice? How will this be enforced? There will be huge bottlenecks at the airports and land border if they are checking everyone. We are booked to fly out on the 17th for a weekend in Brissy and the lack of detail is concerning. If we have to go to a private clinic and pay $150 a pop, it won't be worth the cost/trouble for a 2 day trip.

 

[Must...Fly!]

I don't think anyone has those details yet @Cddc

I doubt even QLD Health has any idea.

 

[jakeseven7]

I don't think anyone has those details yet @Cddc

I doubt even QLD Health has any idea.

Yes no plan no detail and they will have to accept the text - how could they not?

 

[jb747]

Honestly, is two or three more months worth a high court challenge?

It will be if they're awarded financial compensation for their disrupted operations for a few months.

 

[jakeseven7]

It will be if they're awarded financial compensation for their disrupted operations for a few months.

Will set a precedent for VA, QF, Hotels, list goes on and on too…

 

[oz_mark]

Honestly, is two or three more months worth a high court challenge?

Depends if they can get a ruling in a timely enough manner - but the three months are the summer holidays, so probably peak business time for them.

 

[exceladdict]

Never say never.

Have only just had a look at the official government website which days:

• undertake a test on arrival in WA (to be phased out, pending a review)

I didn't notice this when reading articles yesterday so perhaps you're right. One "benefit" of doing it later (well, last) is to observe what works (both what actually works, and what lands well with the voting public).

 

[Must...Fly!]

One "benefit" of doing it later (well, last) is to observe what works (both what actually works, and what lands well with the voting public).

I thought the WA government was led by the health advice (TM)

 

[antycbr]

• undertake a test on arrival in WA (to be phased out, pending a review)

How convenient, shifts the cost away from WA to the origin jurisdiction or individual.