Australian state border restrictions

[jrfsp]

And in breaking news, aliens have invaded Central Australia

Has the NT opened the international border?

Or has djokovic started training at the Lasseters resort?

 

[exceladdict]

They already have ongoing community transmission so....

But McGowan thinks he can eliminate that first lol

Media reports today again quote Mark referencing Feb 5 and trying to get as many vaccines done before then as possible.

It's been a little while since we've heard 'crush and kill', in fact in the same article the new health Minister has warned it is likely that omicron is out.

Until these comments today, I was thinking Feb 5 might be leaning more tentative, but I'm probably feeling more 80/20 on the chances of opening at the moment.

 

[oz_mark]

Media reports today again quote Mark referencing Feb 5 and trying to get as many vaccines done before then as possible.

It's been a little while since we've heard 'crush and kill', in fact in the same article the new health Minister has warned it is likely that omicron is out.

Until these comments today, I was thinking Feb 5 might be leaning more tentative, but I'm probably feeling more 80/20 on the chances of opening at the moment.

I think it will go ahead on the 5th - everything I have seen suggests that the date is pretty much locked and loaded.

Mind you, occasionally they use the phrase 'easing border restrictions' rather than opening....

 

[oznflfan]

Has the NT opened the international border?

Or has djokovic started training at the Lasseters resort?

Yes to border, and once PCR testing to return scrapped, will be on the first Darwin to London flight (although these flights undoubtably moved back to Perth before PCR testing scrapped). Refuse to fly until then as my luck I'll test positive and be stuck over there for months.

I'll look out my window on drive home and see if any commotion of visible security teams patrolling on 'Djokovic watch' at Lasseters.

Can you imagine the BOOS he will get if he wins in Melbourne. It will be epic. Maybe Novak will do a Jim Richards (ala Bathurst) on the crowd. That'd just be the best thing ever.

 

[jakeseven7]

I think it will go ahead on the 5th - everything I have seen suggests that the date is pretty much locked and loaded.

Mind you, occasionally they use the phrase 'easing border restrictions' rather than opening....

Though I can’t say exactly, we have a contract with WA Health that relies on the 5th happening. And our advice as of yesterday is that it is happening. They are also on the hook for $$ if it doesn’t…

Of course I wouldn’t put anything past demented last minute backflips from WA so we will see!

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

With WA using vaccination 'passport' to gain access to a more normal life, I think WA will open at least to fully vaxxed (maybe with prior RAT- in the 24 hours prior) from 5 Feb. Yes it might be 'silly' given developments in all other States /Territories but WA has to get their training wheels/baby steps.

 

[oznflfan]

With WA using vaccination 'passport' to gain access to a more normal life, I think WA will open at least to fully vaxxed (maybe with prior RAT- in the 24 hours prior) from 5 Feb. Yes it might be 'silly' given developments in all other States /Territories but WA has to get their training wheels/baby steps.

Or he might be pig headed and insist on PCR test 72 hours prior, and put onus back on visitors to find a way to get PCR or don't get blessed in visiting the promised land.

 

[Must...Fly!]

If it's PCR no one is going and more importantly the airlines probably won't bother either

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Or he might be pig headed and insist on PCR test 72 hours prior, and put onus back on visitors to find a way to get PCR or don't get blessed in visiting the promised land.

He could be, but the 72 hours gives too much leeway to get infected in the interim, which was the initially folly of SA and Qld if one was aiming to reduce spread.

Up to 12-24 hour RAT (lab monitored) might be more likely to reduce spread - and there is a $59 service at the big 3 Eastern capital city airports who would gleefully take money. It easy money for jam.

 

[oz_mark]

As currently documented, there is will be a requirement for PCR within 72 hours before travel. However, I wouldn't place too much weight on this. I am expecting an update to the proposed rules will be made, probably sometime next week.

 

[nutwood]

If WA were serious about it, the obvious solution would be to RAT everyone as they come off the plane.
Would take a little thought but once they figured out the maximum throughput of the airport, it would only be a matter of committing sufficient resources. As you come off the plane, straight to a testing station. Test done, handed a token, take a seat. Test negative, token flashes green, hand to security as you leave the holding pen. Flashes red, you have a problem.
Any competent process engineer could design something to do the above and properly designed, the delay would only be the actual test time. Supply free refreshments and few would care. Unfortunately, once the Government was involved, the staff employed would be twice what was required but 90% would be shouting at people and getting unnecessary paper-work completed, so the whole system would back up. It could be done though!

 

[MARTINE]

If WA were serious about it, the obvious solution would be to RAT everyone as they come off the plane.
Would take a little thought but once they figured out the maximum throughput of the airport, it would only be a matter of committing sufficient resources. As you come off the plane, straight to a testing station. Test done, handed a token, take a seat. Test negative, token flashes green, hand to security as you leave the holding pen. Flashes red, you have a problem.

And then collect your bowl of noodles when you hand the token back..if green…if red - button pushed on escape flap and into dugeon you go..

 

[nutwood]

And then collect your bowl of noodles when you hand the token back..if green…if red - button pushed on escape flap and into dugeon you go..

Not sure about the dungeon. Incinerator I think. Quick, clean and no untidy appeals to deal with.

 

[oznflfan]

If WA were serious about it, the obvious solution would be to RAT everyone as they come off the plane.
Would take a little thought but once they figured out the maximum throughput of the airport, it would only be a matter of committing sufficient resources. As you come off the plane, straight to a testing station. Test done, handed a token, take a seat. Test negative, token flashes green, hand to security as you leave the holding pen. Flashes red, you have a problem.
Any competent process engineer could design something to do the above and properly designed, the delay would only be the actual test time. Supply free refreshments and few would care. Unfortunately, once the Government was involved, the staff employed would be twice what was required but 90% would be shouting at people and getting unnecessary paper-work completed, so the whole system would back up. It could be done though!

NT tried that method, and failed.

 

[jakeseven7]

NT tried that method, and failed.

Agree - It won’t work in that scenario, it has to be a pre-flight test, who is going to roll the dice once you are there… hardly anyone unless returning resident. So again like now they remain effectively locked out under that model.

The won’t be able to enforce a pre-covid PCR test unless they blackmail the Feds (quite possible given past behaviour!) and they will also be rounded on by all the other states too (not that WA seems to care being the class loser!).

So net net until it opens it’s anyones guess.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

If WA were serious about it, the obvious solution would be to RAT everyone as they come off the plane.
Would take a little thought but once they figured out the maximum throughput of the airport, it would only be a matter of committing sufficient resources. As you come off the plane, straight to a testing station. Test done, handed a token, take a seat. Test negative, token flashes green, hand to security as you leave the holding pen. Flashes red, you have a problem.
Any competent process engineer could design something to do the above and properly designed, the delay would only be the actual test time. Supply free refreshments and few would care. Unfortunately, once the Government was involved, the staff employed would be twice what was required but 90% would be shouting at people and getting unnecessary paper-work completed, so the whole system would back up. It could be done though!

NT tried that method, and failed.

Didn't NT have the 3-day pre-flight test requirement previously?

 

[oznflfan]

Didn't NT have the 3-day pre-flight test requirement previously?

Yes, then with PCR stress they abandoned it, replacing by test case of RAT upon landing. Massive staff needed and still not enough people, tests taking too long, next plane in and still not finished with prior plane, plus some inconclusive results of RAT tests.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Yes, then with PCR stress they abandoned it, replacing by test case of RAT upon landing. Massive staff needed and still not enough people, tests taking too long, next plane in and still not finished with prior plane, plus some inconclusive results of RAT tests.

and Now with a WA's extreme risk stamp....

 

[oz_mark]

Yes, then with PCR stress they abandoned it, replacing by test case of RAT upon landing. Massive staff needed and still not enough people, tests taking too long, next plane in and still not finished with prior plane, plus some inconclusive results of RAT tests.

WA never worried about making you sit on a plane for a couple of hours while they processed other planes....

 

[exceladdict]

WA never worried about making you sit on a plane for a couple of hours while they processed other planes....

Couldn't help but think during that deplaning process that i had certainly had time to catch anything anyone else in the aerobridge was sharing.