Australian state border restrictions

[jakeseven7]

Just hope it hasnt spread in VIC & SA with an infected person travelling...

We’ve just made a hard/cough decision to cancel and move all Sydney events for the next 3 months, mostly to Melbourne and hub our staff out of Melbourne and Adelaide. Sigh. Was sad cancelling all the Sydney venues.

 

[justinbrett]

Just saw this rather interesting paragraph on the SA border website

Note: In relation to Lord Howe Island, it is a territory of NSW and should be aligned with New South Wales restrictions. In the event that a traveller wants to dispute the restrictions, they should be advised to lodge an exemption request with SA Health.

Are they basically saying if you want to argue that Lord Howe Island isn't part of NSW you can come on in?

Also, I think only the country can have territories, you can't have stated owned territories - they're just part of the state.

 

[jakeseven7]

Just saw this rather interesting paragraph on the SA border website

Note: In relation to Lord Howe Island, it is a territory of NSW and should be aligned with New South Wales restrictions. In the event that a traveller wants to dispute the restrictions, they should be advised to lodge an exemption request with SA Health.

Are they basically saying if you want to argue that Lord Howe Island isn't part of NSW you can come on in?

Also, I think only the country can have territories, you can't have stated owned territories - they're just part of the state.

Would be great if Lord Howe could cut off from NSW and QFLink could start up direct flights from all the other states so we can holiday there

 

[nutwood]

Can anyone see any logic in yesterday's reclassification of regional NSW from Vic Orange to Vic Red? Sydney is getting messy but it seems to be focused on specific areas. I've not seen any indications of a changed regional situation.
Vic Orange means an entry permit, test and isolate until clear. I would have thought that more than adequately addressed the risk.

 

[mviy]

Can anyone see any logic in yesterday's reclassification of regional NSW from Vic Orange to Vic Red? Sydney is getting messy but it seems to be focused on specific areas. I've not seen any indications of a changed regional situation.
Vic Orange means an entry permit, test and isolate until clear. I would have thought that more than adequately addressed the risk.

Dan Andrews may have got through relatively unscathed in the polls despite multiple lockdowns and the highest COVID-19 death tally in the country by a country mile, but I assume the VIC government privately fears another lockdown (particularly a lengthy one) in Victoria could be one too many for their support to hold up. It's not surprising that they are taking a risk averse stance.

 

[kookaburra75]

We’ve just made a hard/cough decision to cancel and move all Sydney events for the next 3 months, mostly to Melbourne and hub our staff out of Melbourne and Adelaide. Sigh. Was sad cancelling all the Sydney venues.

Same here - being based in the ACT has suddenly become a liability. Someone must have read my comments in an earlier post about us in the ACT behaving properly and asked why "... that confounds the epidemiologists", and decided to get back at me.

I'm also assuming that Qld will shut its borders the same way that Vic has in the next few days, based on the Qld Government's behaviour last year and we'll be locked out of there too. I've started planning accordingly. Thankfully, we can deliver a lot of the work remotely.

 

[bcworld]

I'm also assuming that Qld will shut its borders the same way that Vic has in the next few days, based on the Qld Government's behaviour last year and we'll be locked out of there too. I've started planning accordingly. Thankfully, we can deliver a lot of the work remotely.

The Annastacia twitter account has done 3 separate 'Qld'ers return home' tweets in the space of a few hours today.

 

[TheRealTMA]

The Annastacia twitter account has done 3 separate 'Qld'ers return home' tweets in the space of a few hours today.

Yes but we won’t shut the borders until all the footballers and families are safely ensconced in their new home.

 

[nutwood]

Same here - being based in the ACT has suddenly become a liability. Someone must have read my comments in an earlier post about us in the ACT behaving properly and asked why "... that confounds the epidemiologists", and decided to get back at me.

I'm also assuming that Qld will shut its borders the same way that Vic has in the next few days, based on the Qld Government's behaviour last year and we'll be locked out of there too. I've started planning accordingly. Thankfully, we can deliver a lot of the work remotely.

This is the problem. I'm in Tasmania and theoretically still good for regional NSW but I've cancelled our work there for next week. Without a national approach we are totally at the mercy of last minute changes and based on past history, Tasmania will follow the other States.

 

[jrfsp]

Looking at the spread over the last week its only a matter of time until it gets out of the metro area, its already up to the blue m'tains

 

[nutwood]

Looking at the spread over the last week its only a matter of time until it gets out of the metro area, its already up to the blue m'tains

That's still in the normal area of people circulating around Sydney. It's a big leap to the regional centres and it'd be nice to think that they could hold the barriers, once you reach the point of single highways to the next population area.
To me, that's how you control the spread. Focus on natural "no mans land", not State borders. I pity places such as Albury!

 

[SydneySwan]

Yes but we won’t shut the borders until all the footballers and families are safely ensconced in their new home.

That of course is a given.

 

[Simo]

Your post sounds like you're happy about that - I suggest you think about how it might read to others. I'm sure you didn't intend it that way.

My comment was only based on the length of being locked down and nothing to do with the death toll...

 

[Lynda2475]

My comment was only based on the length of being locked down and nothing to do with the death toll

>16 week lockdown should not be necessary. If those in the South West start exhibiting the right behaviours, the numbers will fall and restrictions will progressively lift.

Then it will likley be like last year where were are locked out of other states despite being under control so all have to holiday in Byron Bay

 

[trevella]

Was just speaking to colleagues in Canberra.

Is it just me, or is the prospect of people in a place with no community transmission for the most recent two thirds of the pandemic being basically unable to travel the sign of a failing nation?

Travel restrictions likely until end of winter: Barr

"It is unlikely that the Sydney outbreak will be brought under control in the very near future," Mr...

www.canberratimes.com.au

 

[N860CR]

Is it just me, or is the prospect of people in a place with no community transmission for the most recent two thirds of the pandemic being basically unable to travel the sign of a failing nation?

The failing nation ship sailed long ago... without passengers of course, that would be too dangerous

 

[dajop]

Was just speaking to colleagues in Canberra.

Is it just me, or is the prospect of people in a place with no community transmission for the most recent two thirds of the pandemic being basically unable to travel the sign of a failing nation?

This is not new. Just new for the ACT.

Ask the people of Mildura, Wodonga and the like, who spent a big chunk of last year locked out of travelling anywhere .... even though they too had not seen any community transmission for months. Despite the "Ring of Steel".

 

[justinbrett]

My comment was only based on the length of being locked down and nothing to do with the death toll...

So are you saying you’re happy about a long lockdown? Now I’m confused.

 

[justinbrett]

Well I just arrived in Queensland, driving from Newcastle this evening. The quietest I’ve ever seen the Pacific Highway, Coffs Harbour dead and it was pretty much trucks only after that.

No checks whatsoever on the border, but as you get to the border there’s a stack of mobile information screens on both sides of the road, so definitely looks like they’re getting ready to setup a checkpoint.

Interestingly all the information screens on the Pacific Highway as far south of Taree were advertising the Queensland Entry Requirements so the two states must be working together unlike previous times.

 

[SydneySwan]

This is not new. Just new for the ACT.

Ask the people of Mildura, Wodonga and the like, who spent a big chunk of last year locked out of travelling anywhere .... even though they too had not seen any community transmission for months. Despite the "Ring of Steel".

The arbitrary nature of what areas are locked down has been and continues to be a major issue of the management of the pandemic. It is nonsensical that areas get locked down when they have no cases, are long distances from any cases yet are located the 'wrong' side of a state border. I live in a part of Sydney that has no cases from the current outbreak - yes there are some! There are no cases in my postcode or adjoining postcodes. Clearly though the current Sydney outbreak has gone too far for the more nuanced approach to restrictions within Sydney which was implemented at the start of this outbreak. However hopefully cases don't pop up in regional NSW and the rest of NSW can escape any further lockdown.