Bushfires 2019/2020!

[JohnM]

The koalas , the roos, the wombats, the echidna's et all can all please themselves.

Fuel reduction burns are cooler, move slowly and burn in mosaics. That provides time and corridors for wildlife movement and escape.

Edit: They also do not get into the crowns of the trees - that's when things get completely out of control.

NOTHING escapes the type of wildfires occurring now.

 

[Tropic]

Some things really should be above politics and dealt with in a non partisan way in the national interest... Agree we dont need further royal commissions or inquiries. We already know what needs to be done, implentation is the problem. Once the smoke has cleared, CoAG should consider and agree a package of national reforms based on the recomendations of the many previous reviews. Including increased penalties for serial arsonists and establishing a national arsonist register with mandatory tracking/home detention during high risk periods....

 

[RooFlyer]

The only infrastructure right wing governments build is for themselves such as private schools etc.

Neither left wing nor right wing governments build private schools.

The last Labor/Green government in Tasmania, on the other hand, had a policy of closing regional government schools. The present Liberal state government is expanding many regional high schools to include years 11 and 12, a policy opposed by the Labor party.

Go figure. How’s the left wing / right wing thing going?

 

[Pushka]

I don't mean this to be inflammatory but I honestly can not believe the number of people that live in high risk areas that do not even have a simple bushfire plan and think it will happen to them. I had dinner last week with friends and one of their friends said What is this watch and act business - why don't they just put the fires out. FFS people just have no idea what it's like out there.

While others take the risk seriously and friends have heeded the caution - they live in Blackwood, and this means they had had to evac to the cbd several times already. I wonder when that concern might just get to be too much! With their two kids in tow of course and I'm not sure they can keep doing this several times a week at worst but what do you do?

 

[Pushka]

We do have a humour thread.

The only infrastructure right wing governments build is for themselves such as private schools etc. If they increased GST they would give themselves a personal income tax cut.

Maybe this post should go into the thread you mentioned then!

 

[Flying mermaid]

Woo hoo! Opened some doors and windows today - still a smoke haze but I just had to!

our next door neighbour has taken her 4 year old and fled. He was born with major heart defects and during one of his many operations had brain damage leaving him with seizures. Reasonably well controlled with medication. Since the smoke started in December he has had increasing episodes - we have seen an ambulance there quite often (he needs resuscitation).. She has given up and taken him somewhere safer.

 

[drron]

The 2003 Canberra fires are a great example of Australia's lack of coordination during Emergencies.The fires started in NSW but were not considered serious until they got close to Canberra and suddenly they were.
more resources available and they could have been extinguished easily at the start.

 

[Flying mermaid]

The 2003 Canberra fires are a great example of Australia's lack of coordination during Emergencies.The fires started in NSW but were not considered serious until they got close to Canberra and suddenly they were.
more resources available and they could have been extinguished easily at the start.

There also seemed to be rivalries between the two jurisdictions- Canberra refused any help until it was too late...

 

[drron]

There also seemed to be rivalries between the two jurisdictions- Canberra refused any help until it was too late...

Stupid isn't it.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Stupid isn't it.

Human nature

 

[suze2000]

Denali - I know how you feel. We live in a very small cul-de-sac, 6 houses and the council requirement is you can't park business vehicles in our subdivision. There are 5 visitor parking spots. This guy uses 3 24/7 !! P!sses me off no end and I want to report him to council but somebody won't let me !!

You can use Snap Send Solve and make up an anonymous name and email etc so the council won't even know who you are.

 

[Tropic]

Remember the Canberra fire very well. Dark days indeed. When it hit the pine forests was like staring into the Gates of Hades.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Remember the Canberra fire very well. Dark days indeed. When it hit the pine forests was like staring into the Gates of Hades.

We were in Adelaide for two weeks when it hit - I remember driving back and couldn’t believe what it looked like. It was awful being so far away and knowing you couldn’t rescue a thing. We had friends who were at the tennis in Melbourne and they lost everything- even their cats

Mr FM has just gone to fill up the car - May as well be prepared.....

 

[Flying mermaid]

I didn't think a bit of fire smoke was particularly hazardous, if it was I should be long dead...

Two examples for you.

Woman dies due to bushfire smoke in Canberra

amp.9news.com.au

And my next door neighbour has left the rest of her family and taken her 4 year old away as she had become fearful given the number of times in the last month she had needed to call an ambulance to resuscitate him due to him not coping with the smoke.

in both cases I would think there would be underlying problems (well there definitely is with the 4 year old), but it shows the effect of the smoke on vulnerable people.

 

[p--and--t]

We do make such restrictions for flood prone lands.

Except maybe in Queensland where known flood areas for more than a century are now subdivisions filled with new houses (Rockhampton? Townsville? Bundaberg?)

 

[Bundy Bear]

Woot we have a fire thread, it was hard keeping track of the conversation.
Thanks Mods.

 

[Pushka]

Woot we have a fire thread, it was hard keeping track of the conversation.
Thanks Mods.

Lets just hope that in a week or so there will be nothing to post here!

 

[Quickstatus]

Lets just hope that in a week or so there will be nothing to post here!

I hope so too but summer does not end until the last day of February. No significant rainfall in that period

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ABC deleting facebook posts on how protesters stop prescribed burns “more worried about climate change” than wildfires « JoNova

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[Pushka]

I hope so too but summer does not end until the last day of February. No significant rainfall in that period

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ABC deleting facebook posts on how protesters stop prescribed burns “more worried about climate change” than wildfires « JoNova

joannenova.com.au

SA and Victoria are looking into April unless there are some early Autumn rains. Our ‘wet‘ season starts May.

 

[Cossie]

Whilst on the subject of the ABC, I have yet to see any criticism of their coverage of the bush fires. For those that advocate even more cutting to their budget, I say ask the people on the ground that have been affected by these fires and see what they say.

Just as an aside, I haven't heard the parrot sprouting much about the current situation, is he on holidays?