Bushfires 2019/2020!

[cove]

Thanks VPS for the way to donate to the fallen firefighters.

 

[tgh]

Of course all this conflagration was quite predictable and all governments need to explain why they were caught out when it was clearly imminent.
Focusing on the lack of pre burning is just one element.
With the wisdom of hindsight it may be that we could have leased heaps more aircraft, why was this not done ?
With the wisdom of hindsight the whole country could have been mobilised, eg there are literally thousands of large
Pump equipped construction tanker trucks all over au sitting idle.
Why did we not pre plan ?
Why did they not react when it was all imminent.

Would it have saved much ?.. maybe not .. but at least we could have had a go .. the Australian way….

 

[I love to travel]

3000 reservists to be deployed. Hopefully that will help the exhausted crews a bit.

 

[RooFlyer]

Ya gotta be kidding, right?

5PM:

The Tasmania Fire Service has revealed the cause of the fire that threatened Glenlusk and Collinsvale residents yesterday.

The Glenlusk fire was deemed to be accidental and was caused by hot coals from a firepot being discarded in the bush.

 

[Austman]

We now have, according to this report, "Australia's first climate change refugees":

'Australia's first climate change refugees'

The roar and the unnerving darkness of a coming inferno haunt those who survived. What's left in its wake is horrifying.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Pushka]

We now have, according to this report, "Australia's first climate change refugees":

'Australia's first climate change refugees'

The roar and the unnerving darkness of a coming inferno haunt those who survived. What's left in its wake is horrifying.

www.theage.com.au

Because no one has ever had to be rescued from a fire before!

 

[Pushka]

Ya gotta be kidding, right?

If using an angle grinder is illegal. If people in SA were charged with causing a bush fire when the undercarriage of their vehicle made grass catch on fire then this person will get charged and rightly so.

 

[Flying mermaid]

This made me really angry. Apart from what happened to the Police imagine doing burnouts in the current environment

Police hurt when pelted with rocks, bottles by big crowd at Eaglehawk

People in a crowd of up to 2000 hurled rocks and bottles at police, injuring an officer and...

www.canberratimes.com.au

 

[drron]

The problem is Governments were warned many times over the last 80 years-the 1939 Royal commission into severe Victorian fires recommended more Hazard reduction burns.
The Senate Inquiry into Bushfires of 2009 recommended more integration of fire and emergency services and more research on arson.Both sides of politics at State and Federal levels are to blame for our woeful preparedness for these fires.

This warning was in 2015.

Bushfire scientist David Packham warns of huge blaze threat, urges increase in fuel reduction burns

Forest fuel levels have worsened over the past 30 years because of "misguided green ideology", vested interests, political failure and mismanagement, creating a massive bushfire threat, a former CSIRO bushfire scientist has warned. Victoria's "failed fire management policy"

www.bushfire.org.au

And a submission just over 2 years ago by volunteer fire fighters to another WA Inquiry.
AVBFB written submission to the Bush Fire Mitigation Summit

Note they say mitigation is not just HRBs.

 

[get me outta here]

Is this the Summernaters? Eagle Hawke is it - it’s in the bush too, near a service station (I can’t read it due to the pay wall).

This made me really angry. Apart from what happened to the Police imagine doing burnouts in the current environment

Police hurt when pelted with rocks, bottles by big crowd at Eaglehawk

People in a crowd of up to 2000 hurled rocks and bottles at police, injuring an officer and...

www.canberratimes.com.au

 

[get me outta here]

It was the evacuees that called themselves that. The article is just quoting them. I mean I’m not going to criticise any evacuees.

We now have, according to this report, "Australia's first climate change refugees":

'Australia's first climate change refugees'

The roar and the unnerving darkness of a coming inferno haunt those who survived. What's left in its wake is horrifying.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Flying mermaid]

'The first time in our nation's history': Extreme response to bushfires called in

Thousands of additional personnel have been called in to assist in the bushfire crisis in what authorities believe is a first-ever measure.

7news.com.au

 

[Flying mermaid]

Is this the Summernaters? Eagle Hawke is it - it’s in the bush too, near a service station (I can’t read it due to the pay wall).

That is supposed to be a free one? Although I am a subscriber so it’s hard to tell. No the Summernats burnouts are tonight - they are refusing to cancel theirs in spite of being asked by Barr, but at least theirs are contained and they have fire fighters onsite.

this was an adhoc one on the Federal Highway just outside of Canberra (Sutton). After driving off the police they then did burnouts. Drunken yobs

 

[Flying mermaid]

We’ve just broken the record for the hottest day ever in Canberra 43.6 vs 42.8 in 1939. Fortunately winds aren’t too bad.

 

[get me outta here]

Thanks. I heard that they said they had 60 ! firefighters on site for the burn out.

That is supposed to be a free one? Although I am a subscriber so it’s hard to tell. No the Summernats burnouts are tonight - they are refusing to cancel theirs in spite of being asked by Barr, but at least theirs are contained and they have fire fighters onsite.

this was an adhoc one on the Federal Highway just outside of Canberra (Sutton). After driving off the police they then did burnouts. Drunken yobs

 

[RooFlyer]

We now have, according to this report, "Australia's first climate change refugees":

'Australia's first climate change refugees'

The roar and the unnerving darkness of a coming inferno haunt those who survived. What's left in its wake is horrifying.

www.theage.com.au

That's so funny, and maybe belongs in this thread:

Has Climate Change "reporting" reached "End Game'?

The whole Climate Change rage these days is clearly not specifically an aviation thing, but I choose to post this thread as the AFF community has a wonderful and deeply talented pool of opinions on all things. And so I will enjoy all sides of any feedback. Let me start by clearing up one...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

A family gets taken off a beach and taken to safety, as have dozens of others multiple times in the recent past. Bloke reckons he's a refugee. Wonder if he realises what actual refugees go through?

 

[Pushka]

That's so funny, and maybe belongs in this thread:

Has Climate Change "reporting" reached "End Game'?

The whole Climate Change rage these days is clearly not specifically an aviation thing, but I choose to post this thread as the AFF community has a wonderful and deeply talented pool of opinions on all things. And so I will enjoy all sides of any feedback. Let me start by clearing up one...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

A family gets taken off a beach and taken to safety, as have dozens of others multiple times in the recent past. Bloke reckons he's a refugee. Wonder if he realises what actual refugees go through?

Well in that person’s context we beat him to that. We were on Hamilton Island and got dropped off on an isolated beach and the only way out was by boat. Except after having been dropped off a cyclone came in and they couldn’t get to us. Eventually they had to send out a rescue boat but we had to swim on buoys back to the waiting rescue craft. This was 16 years ago. What an idiot.

 

[amaroo]

We now have, according to this report, "Australia's first climate change refugees":

'Australia's first climate change refugees'

The roar and the unnerving darkness of a coming inferno haunt those who survived. What's left in its wake is horrifying.

www.theage.com.au

IMHO, that article is a huge waste of column space.

Countless homes and lives have been lost and devastated over the past 200 years. The person that wrote that rubbish should head up north and get the views of countless flood victims.

As an aside, one wonders if that ex-senator from SA would still parrot that States and Territories should take out insurance for natural disasters.... he certainly couldn't care less for the flood victims of QLD or the cost incurred.

Xenophon questions Qld's lack of insurance

Independent Senator Nick Xenophon says an explanation from Queensland about why it did not take out disaster reinsurance has left him unconvinced.

www.abc.net.au

Reading papers and comments over the past week - there are many people who should think about immigrating elsewhere as I think this country is just too tough for them.

 

[RooFlyer]

It was the evacuees that called themselves that. The article is just quoting them.

Presumably if he had said "I'm the Pope" the Age would have headlined "Pope rescued off Mallacoota".

I dare say the ABC will give this a run tonight

 

[Quickstatus]

That's so funny, and maybe belongs in this thread:

Has Climate Change "reporting" reached "End Game'?

The whole Climate Change rage these days is clearly not specifically an aviation thing, but I choose to post this thread as the AFF community has a wonderful and deeply talented pool of opinions on all things. And so I will enjoy all sides of any feedback. Let me start by clearing up one...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

Wonder if he realises what actual refugees go through?

Maybe that’s the point. They get much more assistance if categorised as such