Can you believe this [No XL PJs in F]

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Not sure of the QF sizing, but I can practically fit myself and my partner in CX "M" size F PJs and the AA F "S" pjs are massive. I cannot imagine how tall or fat one must be to require these XL sizes (I'm not very tall- just under 6") but I'm not tiny either.
 
Also another view point would be the others on the same flight may have consider them to be J pax brought down to F that happened on LHR-SIN in June I wasn't too happy knowing I paid F - yes I do know of free op-up but if in F PJ's I don't know who they are. My RTW in May-June had some interesting flights (post 38 and this one) should have done a TR.
 
.... It seems that they wanted them then and there...

If I pay an airline an obscene amount of money so that I can sleep in a nice seat in a nice set of pj´s, and upon boarding they tell me that they couldnt organise the pj´s, I would be pissed off at them.

Same if I organised with company X to go on a sunset romantic boat cruise with champagne, and upon arriving they told me they only had beer.

The opinions of the travellers in Y and J are meaningless here - they are buying a different product.

If you buy an F ticket you would expect the full F product, which includes the pj´s. The failure to provide that full service is the fault of the airline. The reaction of the pax will depend on how that failure is handled, and the particular sensitivities of the pax. If a couple were on their honeymoon and wanted everything perfect, and the airline staff were dismissive of their disappointmennt, then the situation could understandably deteriorate quickly.

This is most certainly an example of a ¨first world problem¨. But so would complaining about a Y+ seat not reclining on a 14hr flight, or a 6 hr delay in takeoff.
 
And while I am at it - I cannot believe that the pilot was so unprofessional. Can anyone please explain why his description of the cause for delay was necessary or desirable ?
 
And while I am at it - I cannot believe that the pilot was so unprofessional. Can anyone please explain why his description of the cause for delay was necessary or desirable ?

Because the pax said to make sure he told everyone what the delay was for !
 
And while I am at it - I cannot believe that the pilot was so unprofessional. Can anyone please explain why his description of the cause for delay was necessary or desirable ?

He was telling the truth was he not?
 
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Im sure the F FAs were breathing a sigh of relief at getting rid of those DYKWIAs! Honestly, stranding yourself overself some cheap cotton PJs...

Asking to be offloaded, having your bags retrieved and delaying 400 plus passengers all for pyjamas...........people need some perspective.

Regardless of whether they paid the top fare or even were upgraded (that is always a chance), there are no service guantees. When you get upgraded late, the 'catering no assured' is common.

At the end of the day, it is probably better for all concerned they didn't travel. Can you imagine being surrounded by these people for 15 hours, not to mention the crew.



I agree and wonder if their meals were not loaded, they could be handed parachutes over the Pacific.
 
There's a fine line ...:)

Anat01, although I recognize and enjoy the concept of laughing at a tosser, that doesnt retract from the fact it was an appalling lack of judgement on the part of the pilot. What is his message to other F pax: that if you complain you will be ridiculed before the rabble up the back??
 
If I pay an airline an obscene amount of money so that I can sleep in a nice seat in a nice set of pj´s, and upon boarding they tell me that they couldnt organise the pj´s, I would be pissed off at them.

Most people are paying to get from A to B, not for a nice set of PJs. In fact they were offered PJs from J but that was "unacceptable".

The opinions of the travellers in Y and J are meaningless here - they are buying a different product.
I Fly Y and J, and have flown F, care to tell me why my opinions would be irrelevant??

I am thinking from your comments you are one of the pax in question....
 
Anat01, although I recognize and enjoy the concept of laughing at a tosser, that doesnt retract from the fact it was an appalling lack of judgement on the part of the pilot. What is his message to other F pax: that if you complain you will be ridiculed before the rabble up the back??

You are making comments from hearsay - so as per your logic, because you didn't fly in that F cabin on that flight, your comments hold no water as they are meaningless
 
How many pairs do they actually allow for every flight? 2 sizes of each? 3? 4? If all the XL had been handed out, what happens then? I've been upgraded to J twice, (yes, I know that's not F) and only been handed L/XL, but always thought that was due to them not knowing I'd be there in the first place. ;)

Personally, I couldn't care less about the PJs - I see them as an added bonus. When I've flown J, it's for the space and ability to get a good nights sleep. Other people's views will be different naturally. But causing a delay, due them not having a set of PJs in my size - seriously?! Get a life.

Sure I would have been a little ticked off, but I would have certainly handled myself with more professionalism and courtesy to the FAs. I strongly worded letter to QF would have been my method of voicing my disappointment. (Could airlines implement the ability to select the PJ size of choice on our profile, similar to selecting a meal or window/isle seat preference, to ensure we get our request honoured?)

And well done to the pilot for telling the truth; why should the entire plane of paying passengers have to put up with such rudeness from 2 people who felt they were entitled, simply because they were flying F (or J or Y)? As the saying goes: "Money can't buy class." ;)
 
..Most people are paying to get from A to B, not for a nice set of PJs. ....

Not in F they arent.

.. In fact they were offered PJs from J but that was "unacceptable"....

even if this is true, it still means that they were offered an inferior and much cheaper product to the one they actually paid for

...I Fly Y and J, and have flown F, care to tell me why my opinions would be irrelevant??....

If you are scoffing at the F pax desire to get the product they paid an extreme amount for, just because you dont have access to that product due to the cheap ticket you purchased, then your opinion is not valid. They should be judged by others in the same boat.

.....I am thinking from your comments you are one of the pax in question....

No. Not at all. I just despise the jealous lynch-mob jealous mentality.
 
You are making comments from hearsay - so as per your logic, because you didn't fly in that F cabin on that flight, your comments hold no water as they are meaningless

Sorry mannej, I sort of understand your logic but it is incorrectly applied. It is not about hearsay.(Even though you correctly identify that as yet another factor in the consideration of this incident.) It is about the expectations of an F paying pax being judged against the expectations of a Y paying pax.
 
Sorry mannej, I sort of understand your logic but it is incorrectly applied. It is not about hearsay.(Even though you correctly identify that as yet another factor in the consideration of this incident.) It is about the expectations of an F paying pax being judged against the expectations of a Y paying pax.

Sorry, just saying. You did put it out there...
 
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And well done to the pilot for telling the truth; why should the entire plane of paying passengers have to put up with such rudeness from 2 people who felt they were entitled, simply because they were flying F (or J or Y)? As the saying goes: "Money can't buy class." ;)

The pilot could simply say that a passenger/s has been offloaded. Handle it diplomatically, like if an AFF member here found out they were on VH-OQA and asked to be offloaded, you wouldn’t expect the pilot to tell everyone else that the reason for the delay was because the member was scared the aircraft was jinxed, or it wasn’t Boeing…

If Qantas wants to be treated as a business aircraft, and charge like they do, they should correctly provide the services they advertise (though not sure where PJ’s are advertised) and not make silly comments belittling any of their pax to other pax. I’m sure the pax in question are now seeking compensation from the news articles about what happened, and will probably get some if they spend any money with QF other than this flight…
 
What rudeness? That insinuated by the media? Or the rudeness of Qantas to accept cash without delivery of the product?

Are you saying that the dummy spit by 2 passengers, which delayed departure for 400+ passengers is not in the slightest bit rude?
 
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