Cathay to cut worldwide capacity by 30% [Now 96%]

[tomlee1986]

Flight suspension has changed from 14 days to 7 days:

Starting from April 1, if a flight is found to have three or more passengers who test positive for Covid-19 upon arrival, the airline will be banned from operating that route into Hong Kong for seven days.

Coronavirus: Hong Kong to cut 14-day flight suspension rule to 7

Trigger mechanism for ban to be maintained at three positive cases on same flight.

www.scmp.com

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Clearly businesses have spoken and scared the "powers that be"

The fact is that even 1/2 of foreign businesses are planning to leave hkg... reported by CNN... yes it is CNN, BUT the story is based on a research from European chamber of commerce in hkg... I doubt many will return even after the pandemic, due to HK NSL, the decoupling of chinazi and xitler on Russian war, abuse of human rights in hkg, xinjiang and taiwan

Nearly half of foreign businesses in Hong Kong are planning to relocate

Foreign businesses have for decades reaped the benefits of setting up shop in Hong Kong, a historically stable, expat-friendly finance hub at the doorstep of mainland China.

edition.cnn.com

Publication | EuroCham Survey on the impact of Covid-19 on the business community - this is the research report

 

[drron]

Businesses were starting to move their Asian HQs to Singapore pre pandemic.

Firms may consider moving out of Hong Kong amid protests and political uncertainty, experts say

Signs of companies moving out of Hong Kong have emerged, members of the business community told CNBC following massive protests in the city. But one analyst said Hong Kong's proximity to the mainland was something other cities could not compete with.

www.cnbc.com

Because of the way they have managed the pandemic that movement has accelerated for many reasons.

Top 10 Reasons Why You Should Relocate Your HQ To Singapore

Explore the top 10 compelling reasons to relocate your headquarters to Singapore. VanillaLaw LLC provides insights into the strategic advantages of choosing Singapore.

www.vanillalaw.law

Companies leaving Hong Kong are eyeing Singapore

But relocating isn't as easy as it seems.

fortune.com

 

[kelvedon]

At last some good news for Cathay. From April 1st transiting is allowed at HKG

 

[drron]

Too little too late?

 

[tomlee1986]

Too little too late?

It IS too little too late… don’t forget the western world IS decoupling with Chinazi and Xitler due to many issues and disputes - for CX, it WILL be a slow and painful death… the west won’t trust a Chinese carrier, hkers don’t trust them cause of pro ccp stance! This airline is doomed

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

There will be a segment that resumes transiting through HK/CX.

Whether its too late depends on whether that segment is enough to sustain the airline's financial position.

...and also whether the HK government is truly done with covid restrictions affecting international transit/travel

 

[Chicken]

There will be a segment that resumes transiting through HK/CX.

Whether its too late depends on whether that segment is enough to sustain the airline's financial position.

...and also whether the HK government is truly done with covid restrictions affecting international transit/travel

The government could do it, if they want to. Just look at how Singapore government had been holding transit passengers from high risk countries in holding pen at the airport.

I would not be comfortable transiting via HKG in the short term due to political reasons (especially when I'm Chinese ethnically); but I know I would rather transit in HKG over SIN if I'm white, depends on where about is my final destination.

 

[tomlee1986]

The government could do it, if they want to. Just look at how Singapore government had been holding transit passengers from high risk countries in holding pen at the airport.

I would not be comfortable transiting via HKG in the short term due to political reasons (especially when I'm Chinese ethnically); but I know I would rather transit in HKG over SIN if I'm white, depends on where about is my final destination.

I am the same - SIN is a slightly better option as the government is not the most trusted because the SIN govt do support chinese government in some aspects... for people in hkg with high political risk, Singapore is the best option of the remaining options... if given other options like driect travel to EU then transfer to UK... this is better

Sorry if I strayed off topic...

 

[astrosly]

I would not be comfortable transiting via HKG in the short term due to political reasons (especially when I'm Chinese ethnically); but I know I would rather transit in HKG over SIN if I'm white, depends on where about is my final destination.

Why is transiting HKG preferable over SIN if you are 'white'?

 

[tomlee1986]

Why is transiting HKG preferable over SIN if you are 'white'?

HK national security law - to those with chinese ancestry, the chinese government is more likely to kidnap you, "extradite" you to mainland big 6 (china) for so call crimes - real reason is your anti ccp views overseas, then sentence you for a long term imprisonment if not execution

I know this because I am chinese origin, and anti ccp in australia...

 

[astrosly]

HK national security law - to those with chinese ancestry, the chinese government is more likely to kidnap you, "extradite" you to mainland big 6 (china) for so call crimes - real reason is your anti ccp views overseas, then sentence you for a long term imprisonment if not execution

I know this because I am chinese origin, and anti ccp in australia...

right, so as a European (and may be what you call 'white') I really shouldn't have to worry about transiting SIN

 

[tomlee1986]

right, so as a European (and may be what you call 'white') I really shouldn't have to worry about transiting SIN

Actually if you are European, or (white as you may call) - HKG is safe for you unless you are anti ccp... SIN is preferable for chinese ancestry especially hkers than hkg itself... sorry for the confusion caused...

 

[Chicken]

right, so as a European (and may be what you call 'white') I really shouldn't have to worry about transiting SIN

I think there is confusion here.

I was talking about transiting in HKG.

Just like if you were in China. If you are 'white', you are more likely to get deported than detained, and if you are detained, you are generally treated better than the Chinese prisoners.

In the eyes of the Chinese government, you are a Chinese citizen as long as you are of Chinese ancestry (yellow face), regardless of what nationalities you hold.

This is why I would avoid HKG in the near term.

Sorry if I strayed off topic...

I don't think this is off topic.

This is exactly the problem with CX. It is not easy to avoid transiting via HKG. SIN is further for many destinations, and what's worse: HKG or DXB

 

[tomlee1986]

I think there is confusion here.

I was talking about transiting in HKG.

Just like if you were in China. If you are 'white', you are more likely to get deported than detained, and if you are detained, you are generally treated better than the Chinese prisoners.

In the eyes of the Chinese government, you are a Chinese citizen as long as you are of Chinese ancestry (yellow face), regardless of what nationalities you hold.

This is why I would avoid HKG in the near term.

Not really to be honest - especially with the current political climate, it may be more of a hinderance than a benefit... thats why for CX, even if they want to focus the foreigner market, I personally would NOT recommend this airline to ANYONE!

 

[astrosly]

Actually if you are European, or (white as you may call) - HKG is safe for you unless you are anti ccp... SIN is preferable for chinese ancestry especially hkers than hkg itself... sorry for the confusion caused...

thanks for the clarification. and for the record I consider myself 'green' instead of 'white' (olive skin )!

 

[tomlee1986]

thanks for the clarification. and for the record I consider myself 'green' instead of 'white' (olive skin ) !

it is okay and for the record, i also would NOT recommend you to transit via HKG under ANY circumstance, foreigners could be held hostage too, if you remember, 2 Canadians were held hostage in china because canada and china relations deterioated. (2 Michaels case, detained, "charged and convicted for espionage" just because canada held Meng Wenzhou - Huawei CFO for extradition request to usa, detained from 2018 to 2021)

 

[focusedbear]

For those trying to dodge the flight bans, here's a link to the flights. Already, CX flights from Manchester to HK have been suspended.

Centre for Health Protection, Department of Health - Archives of List of flights/trains taken by confirmed cases of novel coronavirus infection during the symptomatic phase

Click here to view the latest version Date File

www.chp.gov.hk

 

[OATEK]

I saw a CX plane at LHR yesterday, so some UK flights occuring.

 

[prozac]

I saw a CX plane at LHR yesterday, so some UK flights occuring.

Limited flights in April.

More in May

 

[exLXCXFF]

Limited flights in April.
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More in May
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