Changes to partner earns on QF

[defurax]

This will mean a reduction in earn in both SC and Points for some flights I have booked.

Earn for flights like LAX-DFW on AA where earn for a Platinum is currently 3078 will drop to 2750.

I wonder if we can get credit for such earn based on original booking date?

Just checked and HNL-DFW on AA in Y (L class) will now earn 4200 points for a QF WP instead of 1894 points. That's quite a significant increase!

 

[juddles]

Forgive me for being thick, but has anyone seen how this will affect LAN flights?

 

[teamhamsandwich]

I often fly PVG>LHR in Y for a whopping 20 status credits. Surely this change could only improve this!

 

[Mattg]

Whilst "not as bad", QR earning classes are gauged one level below their actual class of service.

The ADL-DOH route seems to have been missed on the enhanced earning tables.

As it stands, QR flights will earn the following SCs between Doha and:
-Perth: 30 SC in Y or 60 in J
-Sydney/Melbourne: 20 SC in Y or 40 in J
-Adelaide: 40 SC in Y or 160 in J

:shock:

 

[anat0l]

This will mean a reduction in earn in both SC and Points for some flights I have booked.

Earn for flights like LAX-DFW on AA where earn for a Platinum is currently 3078 will drop to 2750.

I wonder if we can get credit for such earn based on original booking date?

How do you calculate 2275? This is LAX-DFW in AA F as a QF WP?

Just checked and HNL-DFW on AA in Y (L class) will now earn 4200 points for a QF WP instead of 1894 points. That's quite a significant increase!

You also get half the status credits to before, viz. 30 SC rather than 60 SC.

 

[david1]

I have an upcoming booking on Sri Lankan from CMB to LHR. It looks like my SC earn will actually increase from 80 SC to 120 SC on this route. Does anyone know if the date I made the booking will mean I still get the old (lower) amount of SCs, or will I be able to benefit from the increase having already booked months ago, but flying after the changes come into effect?

I am also interested!
Last year I had flights booked before 30 June but flew in July, after some rules were changed which would have decreased my points earn, however I still got the pre-change amounts i.e. what I expected when I booked. However because these changes seem to be increasing the earn on a lot of flights, I hope they do apply the new rules to already-booked travel! A quick check of flights I have booked looks like I would be 80SC's better off at the new earn rates.

 

[yohy?!]

JAL Domestic Class J earn now considered Premium Economy - guess they must have been getting a bit of activity from there

 

[Mattg]

Forgive me for being thick, but has anyone seen how this will affect LAN flights?

LAN flights within South America still earn based on distance.

On the SYD-AKL-SCL flights, there are a few changes:
-SYD-AKL still earns 10/40 (in Y/J)
-SYD-SCL has increased to 30/120 in Y/J (from 20/80)
-AKL-SCL has decreased to 20/80 in Y/J (was 35/140)

 

[anat0l]

The ADL-DOH route seems to have been missed on the enhanced earning tables.

As it stands, QR flights will earn the following SCs between Doha and:
-Perth: 30 SC in Y or 60 in J
-Sydney/Melbourne: 20 SC in Y or 40 in J
-Adelaide: 40 SC in Y or 160 in J

:shock:

That's probably because QF didn't take this into account when composing the new rates, as QR only just announced the route.

The calculator similarly doesn't allow the entry of ADL/DOH because it is only programmed to try and calculate, at best, routes which currently exist.

Now that you've given them the idea, they might just add DOH to the Adelaide table once the service is in operation.

 

[cmon0005]

Qatar's new earning table is an absolute joke, First fares with Business SC's, All Business fares classed as Flexible Economy.. Surely this is considered misleading and deceptive conduct, what's next we'll purchase a J class seat and get put in the cargo hold??

It's one thing to reduce points/sc's earned but to disguise it by changing the titles just a joke..

 

[defurax]

You also get half the status credits to before, viz. 30 SC rather than 60 SC.

Only Y fare class used to give 60SC on the HNL-DFW when flying Y with a AA flight number.

 

[Mattg]

That's probably because QF didn't take this into account when composing the new rates, as QR only just announced the route.

The calculator similarly doesn't allow the entry of ADL/DOH because it is only programmed to try and calculate, at best, routes which currently exist.

Now that you've given them the idea, they might just add DOH to the Adelaide table once the service is in operation.

If anything, I think the omission highlights how shockingly bad QR earn rates are on the other routes to Australia.

 

[david1]

BA premium economy now earns at flex Y rates, but still gives more than it did pre-changes. Interestingly, BA premium economy on an AA code earns at premium economy rates, no difference in SC's but sometimes the AA code will give more points. The Qantas calculator seems to know about the changes, so you don't just have to look at the tables.

I often fly PVG>LHR in Y for a whopping 20 status credits. Surely this change could only improve this!

Yes! Looks like 30 now, or 60 for flex Y.

 

[serfty]

How do you calculate ... This is LAX-DFW in AA F as a QF WP?
...

www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/do/dyns/initialPointsEarned

And, yes, it should have 2750 ... still about a 10% reduction from 3078.

 

[anat0l]

If anything, I think the omission highlights how shockingly bad QR earn rates are on the other routes to Australia.

Well they weren't crash hot before the change.

As I said, when the ADL/DOH service actually begins real flying service, QF may modify the table to add Doha to the Adelaide section of partner earn, so it will similarly earn rather small amounts.

 

[anat0l]

www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/do/dyns/initialPointsEarned

And, yes, it should have 2750 ... still about a 10% reduction.

I asked how you got the 2275. I agree with the 3078 under the old earn. The same calculator (and manually from using the table) gives a new earn of 2750.

It is a reduction, though not as dramatic as you had it. But, either way you cut it......



DFW is an enigma in the table. It doesn't belong to one of the USA named zones. The only specific zone routings involving Dallas include:

• QF and Partner longhaul Australia to/from Dallas
• QF Dallas to/from East Coast USA/Canada
• Partner Dallas to/from New York/Boston

Everything else Dallas is either a short or medium haul intra-USA, or distance measured.

 

[cmon0005]

I can see many confused people and angry calls into the service centre for pax flying MH & QR in particular, why couldn't they have just reduced the earn rate rather than confusing the situation 'by changing definitions' on what the class matches too, you should fix this QF before it becomes an issue later. :evil:

 

[teamhamsandwich]

JAL Domestic Class J earn now considered Premium Economy - guess they must have been getting a bit of activity from there

This sucks!

 

[Batesy]

I flew in Y with MH last month and the flight has appeared in my activity with zero points and zero credits, thought I would have gotten something in their "O" class bucket

 

[defurax]

I think this screen capture is the best evidence of the complexity of QF earning tables in the past 2 years: