COVID-19 and Tennis

[I love to travel]

Not only the Australian court of public opinion has swung against Novax but quite a few OS reports now are against him staying. He really has damaged his brand.

Will be interesting to see how his sponsors react. Might be a quiet ending of arrangements when next contract is up.

 

[antycbr]

That must be the first time ever the Federal Court has used social media instead of the usual legal channels to announce a hearing

I still can't find if there's a Federal Court file yet.

at least they’re not trying to use their own platforms to stream the case… YouTube can scale.

 

[Anna]

More internet misinformation. (So sick of this). It will not be the full hearing on Saturday, it will be a directions hearing probably just to make sure everyone is on the same page so to speak. Maybe, to discuss whether the hearing will have one judge or 3. (Although if Novax gets a Full Federal Court on a Sunday to hear an application lodged on the prior Friday night, it will be cast-iron unarguable that his money is getting him special treatment).

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Yes. Not to mention the affected players in his half of the draw who have no idea who they should be preparing to play on Monday or Tuesday and beyond. It's not just that Rublev moves up, it's then that someone else moves up to replace Rublev's spot and someone else then moves up to that spot etc etc, ending with some player who failed to qualify being allowed in at the last moment to take the bottom spot - meaning that person can't even go home to get on with their life and their preparation for their next attempt. Djokovic is being incredibly selfish, and he could stop all this any time he chooses.

I’m of the understanding is that ...

AO has already announced men and women single are playing the top half on Monday. The top half includes Djokovic and Barty (both no 1).

the Grand Slam tournament rule is that the no 5 seed takes Djokovic’s position/game if Djokovic withdraws before Monday’s order of play is announced. IF Monday’s order of play is announced before Djokovic withdraws, then a lucky loser takes Djokovic’s place in tournament and no 5 seed plays his original game.

So all this depends on how long Justice O’Callaghan takes on Sunday (if the justice is even in a position to decide, and if there is a further appeal) and how long AO organisers delay announcing Monday’s order of play.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Yes. Not to mention the affected players in his half of the draw who have no idea who they should be preparing to play on Monday or Tuesday and beyond. It's not just that Rublev moves up, it's then that someone else moves up to replace Rublev's spot and someone else then moves up to that spot etc etc, ending with some player who failed to qualify being allowed in at the last moment to take the bottom spot - meaning that person can't even go home to get on with their life and their preparation for their next attempt. Djokovic is being incredibly selfish, and he could stop all this any time he chooses.

Not sure I'm too sorry for the person at the bottom... They get $140,000 just for showing up! And likely invaluable experience.

As for the rest of the draw/players... They must be used to things like this, and are well compensated. With the top seed gone there's the potential for more money all round

 

[Anna]

I’m of the understanding is that ...

AO has already announced men and women single are playing the top half on Monday. The top half includes Djokovic and Barty (both no 1).

the Grand Slam tournament rule is that the no 5 seed takes Djokovic’s position/game if Djokovic withdraws before Monday’s order of play is announced. IF Monday’s order of play is announced before Djokovic withdraws, then a lucky loser takes Djokovic’s place in tournament and no 5 seed plays his original game.

So all this depends on how long Justice O’Callaghan takes on Sunday (if the justice is even in a position to decide, and if there is a further appeal) and how long AO organisers delay announcing Monday’s order of play.

I dunno but the Guardian reports it like this:

As things stand, should Djokovic fail to reinstate his visa before Tennis Australia issues the opening day’s order of play, his withdrawal would cause a last-minute reshuffle of the draw. The fifth seed, Andrey Rublev, would move into Djokovic’s spot at the top of the draw, Gaël Monfils, the 17th seed, would take Rublev’s spot, Alexander Bublik would become the 33rd seed in Monfils’s spot and a lucky loser would be added.

Novak Djokovic saga leaves Australian Open in tatters with draw in turmoil | Tumaini Carayol

Tennis Australia’s determination to host world No 1 backfires as visa limbo threatens to create a badly lopsided men’s tournament

www.theguardian.com

 

[dairyfloss]

Will be interesting to see how his sponsors react. Might be a quiet ending of arrangements when next contract is up.

This is true, but there are still plenty of great opportunities for him out there.

In fact, I’ve just taken a few moments myself to write up a fresh ad pitch for Merck, to Novax, that might be of interest

<Novax returns a serve to a faceless opponent on a tennis court>
“Oh, hello friends - most of you know me best for what I do best - on the court - but when I’m not on the court, I’m in the courts, and let me tell you, it’s not me doing the serving <awkward laugh>”
<scene fades to courtroom; Novax rises from his seat as a judge enters>.
“After a long day of weak arguments and diversion tactics, I like nothing better than to relax with a delicious Ivermectin shake. It’s filled with the right combination of active ingredients for a person like me, and it tastes great when combined with your favourite juice or formula.”
<Novax is seated>
<text overlay on screen>
“Ivermectin: perfectly formulated, for parasitic worms.”
<Novax winks and takes a drink>
<sound of gavel in background; fade to black >

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I dunno but the Guardian reports it like this:

As things stand, should Djokovic fail to reinstate his visa before Tennis Australia issues the opening day’s order of play, his withdrawal would cause a last-minute reshuffle of the draw. The fifth seed, Andrey Rublev, would move into Djokovic’s spot at the top of the draw, Gaël Monfils, the 17th seed, would take Rublev’s spot, Alexander Bublik would become the 33rd seed in Monfils’s spot and a lucky loser would be added.

Novak Djokovic saga leaves Australian Open in tatters with draw in turmoil | Tumaini Carayol

Tennis Australia’s determination to host world No 1 backfires as visa limbo threatens to create a badly lopsided men’s tournament

www.theguardian.com

Perhaps Guardian is linking visa to withdrawal. A tournament rule would normally only refer to the act of withdrawal not a visa issue. But I think everyone suspects Djokovic will hang on until he definitively loses the court case, more likely after appeal.

Odds are great Federal Court won’t decide by order of play announcement, so either lucky loser enters or if no decision by Monday game time Djokovic plays at least first round.

 

[Must...Fly!]

plays at least first round.

Can he play on a PlayStation from his lawyer's office?

Anyway jokes aside the hearing is live on YouTube

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Can he play on a PlayStation from his lawyer's office?

Anyway jokes aside the hearing is live on YouTube

AO22 on Channel 9, right?

Imagine split screen: Djokovic in locker room about to play and Border Force nearby waiting for call; other screen Federal Court decision being handed down - lawyers announce appeal.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Not sure I'm too sorry for the person at the bottom... They get $140,000 just for showing up! And likely invaluable experience.

As for the rest of the draw/players... They must be used to things like this, and are well compensated. With the top seed gone there's the potential for more money all round

I'm not a tennis fan at all, and I visited the AO website for the first time ever the other day, and was shocked they publish each planners "winnings", showing NoVax having won over $145m! You'd think, in this current climate when people are struggling, putting this figure up is a little demeaning...or perhaps its just cynical me who thinks no one individual should ever be worth that kind of money..

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I'm not a tennis fan at all, and I visited the AO website for the first time ever the other day, and was shocked they publish each planners "winnings", showing NoVax having won over $145m! You'd think, in this current climate when people are struggling, putting this figure up is a little demeaning...or perhaps its just cynical me who thinks no one individual should ever be worth that kind of money..

Winnings/earnings and worth could be two different things lol

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

ABC blog

Will Djokovic get a hearing before the full Federal Court?​

Lawyers are debating whether this case should be held before more than one judge.

Djokovic's lawyers are in favour of the move but Stephen Lloyd, who is appearing on behalf of the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship, says he does not agree.

“We say there isn’t a justification for stepping out of the ordinary," he tells the court.

Post automatically merged: Jan 15, 2022

ABC blog

Well that was quick​

The hearing has now adjourned, with another hearing to be held at 9:30am AEDT on Sunday.

The court didn't come to a decision on whether the hearing will be before the full court or not, but a decision will be made later today.

 

[kpc]

What a waste of money (tax payers' I guess if Djokovic wins)...to have a full federal court hearing with (possibly ) 3 judges on a Sunday!

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

What a waste of money (tax payers' I guess if Djokovic wins)...to have a full federal court hearing with (possibly ) 3 judges on a Sunday!

Do you mean the justices doing overtime? Or you mean lawyers?

 

[MARTINE]

Regarding sponsors - here is a list (if this site is correct).
I think ANZ and JACOBS CREEK being local could be quick to pull the plug

Who Are Novak Djokovic's Sponsors? Who Are The Brands Sticking With Him Despite The Controversies - TENNISFANSITE.COM

Who Are Novak Djokovic’s Sponsors? Who Are The Brands Sticking With Him Despite The Controversies Novak Djokovic, who has won 24 grand slam titles, is considered one of the greatest tennis players. During 2015-2016, Djokovic won all four grand slams back to back (though not in the same calendar...

tennisfansite.com

 

[antycbr]

ABC blog

Will Djokovic get a hearing before the full Federal Court?​

Lawyers are debating whether this case should be held before more than one judge.

Djokovic's lawyers are in favour of the move but Stephen Lloyd, who is appearing on behalf of the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship, says he does not agree.

“We say there isn’t a justification for stepping out of the ordinary," he tells the court.

Post automatically merged: Jan 15, 2022

ABC blog

Well that was quick​

The hearing has now adjourned, with another hearing to be held at 9:30am AEDT on Sunday.

The court didn't come to a decision on whether the hearing will be before the full court or not, but a decision will be made later today.

Justification for stepping out of the ordinary… that argument was lost by all parties including the court system much earlier this week…

 

[MARTINE]

Justification for stepping out of the ordinary… that argument was lost by all parties including the court system much earlier this week…

Where‘s Judge Judy - she’d sort him out ?

 

[prozac]

Where‘s Judge Judy - she’d sort him out ?

He needs a good dressing down.

 

[Denali]

Where‘s Judge Judy - she’d sort him out ?