[fare gone] Yangon to New York, London etc. R/T in Business under $850

[Coathanger]

Flights have just ticketed with IB although CC is still 'pending'.

It usually takes a few days before transactions are posted, even for normal transactions like supermarkets, so I wouldn't be too worried about that.

 

[JessicaTam]

It usually takes a few days before transactions are posted, even for normal transactions like supermarkets, so I wouldn't be too worried about that.

Thanks for the reminder. I am not particularly worried, however as my first effort at one of these fares it would be nice if it survived.

 

[Coathanger]

Thanks for the reminder. I am not particularly worried, however as my first effort at one of these fares it would be nice if it survived.

Agreed. It's my first attempt at mistake fares too, with the availability of SQ Suites being the primary reason to pull the trigger.

 

[dajop]

SQ308 is codeshare with IB so I assume QF points and SCs? SQ won't let me access the booking, I have to do that through IB.

SQ doesn't codeshare with IB and vice versa. So it will be straight SQ flight, so no QF points. If the booking is like mine (which I managed to redo and ticket through travelocity), it will be (MH? J) connecting to SQ F and then to IB J (operated by BA) ... ticketed by IB. Will get QF points/SCs for IB/BA sector only (and if on MH, maybe if they are in oneworld by time of travel).

 

[JessicaTam]

SQ doesn't codeshare with IB and vice versa. So it will be straight SQ flight, so no QF points. If the booking is like mine (which I managed to redo and ticket through travelocity), it will be (MH? J) connecting to SQ F and then to IB J (operated by BA) ... ticketed by IB. Will get QF points/SCs for IB/BA sector only (and if on MH, maybe if they are in oneworld by time of travel).

Aaah, I see. You are quite correct about the flights.
The curious thing is that the SQ flight (and second MH flight KUL-SIN) is visible on the IB website as part of my booking. It also shows seat 3C for the SQ flight. Is that just because it is a multi destination ticket?
I am happy to have SQ as standalone as I should be able to credit points/miles to TK.

 

[Joshua]

Aaah, I see. You are quite correct about the flights.
The curious thing is that the SQ flight (and second MH flight KUL-SIN) is visible on the IB website as part of my booking. It also shows seat 3C for the SQ flight. Is that just because it is a multi destination ticket?
I am happy to have SQ as standalone as I should be able to credit points/miles to TK.

You'll find they're information sectors in the itineraries. For instance I had a corporate booking ADL-MEL (QF) and MEL-ADL (DJ), the DJ sector was an information sector in the QF itinerary. That's a simple example, this time I have 5 different PNR's, each has AK sectors of the others.

A more technical explanation is http://www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au/community/qantas-frequent-flyer-program/my-qff-question-12621.html#post164295

 

[Aussie_flyer]

You'll find they're information sectors in the itineraries. For instance I had a corporate booking ADL-MEL (QF) and MEL-ADL (DJ), the DJ sector was an information sector in the QF itinerary. That's a simple example, this time I have 5 different PNR's, each has AK sectors of the others.

A more technical explanation is http://www.australianfrequentflyer....program/my-qff-question-12621.html#post164295

yes you will find they are showing just so the airline knows where you are connecting from and to

 

[k_sheep]

Depends on the type of error. This one I couldn't see any method besides plugging in different cities into various OTAs. Couldn't replicate the same booking on multiple sites either. Is that because it was a YY fare? Seems a lot more widespread this time. I still hold out hope that avoiding the SQ suites will make me a lesser target for cancellation, all part of the fun though.

So just plug in a multistop booking, using whatever cities you can think of?

Fingers crossed for getting it to stick! My mark II seems intact, flying in March.

 

[Joshua]

So just plug in a multistop booking, using whatever cities you can think of?

Fingers crossed for getting it to stick! My mark II seems intact, flying in March.

I picked up on it early (particularly before FT did/went nuts), between what was being posted and doing some fare searches on EF you could figure out the destination cities. The transit points were all over the place, so yes tried random cities. I picked cities that would draw out oneworld routes (+ DL segments where DJ status comes in).

I have hope mine will be okay, transit US soil and I still feel avoiding the SQ suites won't set off as many alarms (particularly given people were hitting that hard).

Already found a good return option on CX, YVR-HKG-TPE in F followed by TPE-HKG-ADL J. Just a waiting game now.

 

[k_sheep]

Thanks for that .... guess it's time to bite the bullet and get me an EF subscription!

Your return sounds much nicer than what mine will be (discount Y all the way I'm guessing!).

 

[*A Flyer]

I managed to ticket RGN-NRT-FRA-ZRH-YUL. It includes A380 F with LH plus the FCT and another trip on the LX A330 so I really can't complain. Unfortunately, all the posts about SQ Suites came after I was ticketed otherwise I would have tried for that although the tickets with SQ segments seem the most likely to be cancelled.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

I managed to ticket RGN-NRT-FRA-ZRH-YUL. It includes A380 F with LH plus the FCT and another trip on the LX A330 so I really can't complain. Unfortunately, all the posts about SQ Suites came after I was ticketed otherwise I would have tried for that although the tickets with SQ segments seem the most likely to be cancelled.

Why is that?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I managed to ticket RGN-NRT-FRA-ZRH-YUL. It includes A380 F with LH plus the FCT and another trip on the LX A330 so I really can't complain. Unfortunately, all the posts about SQ Suites came after I was ticketed otherwise I would have tried for that although the tickets with SQ segments seem the most likely to be cancelled.

Why is that?

there is no particular reason why the SQ bookings will be cancelled per se, just that it may be easier for the airline to do it as they can always relay on their terms and conditions about 'errors' or mistakes or whatever else. The same holds true for any ticket which does not touch US soil and is therefore not protected by the US DOT. So in that sense they are more likely to be [considered by the airline to be] cancelled than those that do go via the US.

The SQ suites were easily bookable as a four segment touching US soil. So one would expect those tickets to be honoured. However, there may be some flow-on benefit - if SQ honours the tickets via US soil they may honour the other ones. Or they may try to cut their losses.

 

[*A Flyer]

Why is that?

SQ has a history of being harsh with these sorts of very low fares (even where they weren't mistakes). There were cases where they refused travel ex-CMB without massive upfares or an involuntary downgrade to Y. Further, SQ's predilection for seriously protecting their premium cabins (especially Suites) makes me think they are the most likely to take a hardline approach here. There may be some relief as SQ hasn't issued many of these tickets (most appear to be MH) and therefore doesn't have control of them but I still think they are the most likely to be cancelled. I also tend to think that SQ would be more likely than anyone else to fight to DOT over this.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I also tend to think that SQ would be more likely than anyone else to fight to DOT over this.

Fight the DOT over what? The case is pretty clear cut. The airline cannot increase the price, even on a mistake fare. If they cancel the ticket they are subject to penalties.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

there is no particular reason why the SQ bookings will be cancelled per se, just that it may be easier for the airline to do it as they can always relay on their terms and conditions about 'errors' or mistakes or whatever else. The same holds true for any ticket which does not touch US soil and is therefore not protected by the US DOT. So in that sense they are more likely to be [considered by the airline to be] cancelled than those that do go via the US.

The SQ suites were easily bookable as a four segment touching US soil. So one would expect those tickets to be honoured. However, there may be some flow-on benefit - if SQ honours the tickets via US soil they may honour the other ones. Or they may try to cut their losses.

It's just impossible to say what will happen really, it's all guesswork. This mistake seems to have been made by IATA as it's a YY generic fare available on any airline. It's hard to know who is going to end up paying for it really.... if they are honoured.

 

[Danger]

With regard to the SQ fares, taking nothing away from others' comments, I have three tickets (one for me and a seperate ticket for my parents) booked on SQ from the round one fares on their A380 in J. All is well with these.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

SQ has a history of being harsh with these sorts of very low fares (even where they weren't mistakes). There were cases where they refused travel ex-CMB without massive upfares or an involuntary downgrade to Y. Further, SQ's predilection for seriously protecting their premium cabins (especially Suites) makes me think they are the most likely to take a hardline approach here. There may be some relief as SQ hasn't issued many of these tickets (most appear to be MH) and therefore doesn't have control of them but I still think they are the most likely to be cancelled. I also tend to think that SQ would be more likely than anyone else to fight to DOT over this.

yes I see you are reading flyertalk very well. My ticket is issued on 618 SQ stock.

SQ can cancel a sector if they want on another airlines ticket number....

 

[Aussie_flyer]

With regard to the SQ fares, taking nothing away from others' comments, I have three tickets (one for me and a seperate ticket for my parents) booked on SQ from the round one fares on their A380 in J. All is well with these.

When are you travelling? It seems to me that many people would have travelled before you on SQ in a similar situation, but no horror stories emerging over on the FT threads that I have noted.

 

[Danger]

When are you travelling? It seems to me that many people would have travelled before you on SQ in a similar situation, but no horror stories emerging over on the FT threads that I have noted.

The outbound is not until just before Christmas.

Are you saying that a lot of people have travelled on SQ successfully?