FINNAIR - new Business Class AirLounge seat

Just difficult to adjust to, if you’re used to a reclining seat, foot well is small and has an annoying pillar. Difficult to get in and out of to get up. Definitely don’t select a seat in the first 2 rows. I felt sorry for the people there as the galley and more particularly the lavatory in row one would be extremely disruptive.
 
Just difficult to adjust to, if you’re used to a reclining seat, foot well is small and has an annoying pillar. Difficult to get in and out of to get up. Definitely don’t select a seat in the first 2 rows. I felt sorry for the people there as the galley and more particularly the lavatory in row one would be extremely disruptive.
But the footwell in the front row is much bigger. So if that is a concern, choose front row and BYO ear plugs.
 
What concerns me is that I don't mind lounging but that is best done with cushions so that you can lounge in a way that suits your body but from all reports there is only one tiny good-for-nothing type cushion provided and there are no spares. (I welcome readers who have flown and have had different experiences to counter this claim.)

But the footwell in the front row is much bigger. So if that is a concern, choose front row and BYO ear plugs.

That's me. Ear plugs top of packing list already!
 
What concerns me is that I don't mind lounging but that is best done with cushions so that you can lounge in a way that suits your body but from all reports there is only one tiny good-for-nothing type cushion provided and there are no spares. (I welcome readers who have flown and have had different experiences to counter this claim.)
Two pillows provided along with the usual. Other available if requested.
 

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Footwell size wasn't an issue for me. Moving from seated to lying position and returning to seated position from sleeping requires dexterity - no help so relies on your knees and back having no issues. I had a knee injury so it was crazy hard to crawl in out of the lying position.

Also if a side sleeper can only sleep on one side due to angle.

Seat belt used when sleeping is retractable so makes it hard to roll over.

Official seat cover (let alone the ones QF provide) has nothing to keep it in place, so it moves out of position. Seat is super firm and topper very thin.

Pillow + cushion are not very good (need to be bigger).

Your head is in butt position when
sleeping as no recline. No lumber support when seated except for cushion.

Seat ok for lounging, poor for sleeping imo.

My original review is here: Qantas boosts international capacity, wet lease Finnair aircraft

Other people like Princess Fiona love it, for me it's better than whY of course but least favourite J seat which offers lay flat.
 
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I guess the seat is not for everyone. Given the choice, would I however fly AY in biz over QF? Most certainly!
Im the opposite, in terms of hard product the QF J seat (especially on A380) has more accessible storage. The automated recline makes transitioning from seated to sleeping position super easy, the non retractable sleeping belt makes it easier to roll over and lumbar support is superior.

AY do not provide PJs.
 
all reports there is only one tiny good-for-nothing type cushion provided and there are no spares. (I welcome readers who have flown and have had different experiences to counter this claim.)

Two pillows; I asked for another and got one on one of my flights. Having a bad lower back, I was very worried about the slouch/lack of support, but it was fine on 3 long haul legs.


would I however fly AY in biz over QF? Most certainly!

100%! The food, IFE and crew are wonderful.
 
Did 8 flights in this seat in 2024.

Every single flight the IFE stopped working and had to be reset.

The film and TV catalogue is also by far the most limited of any major western airline.
 
Every single flight the IFE stopped working and had to be reset.

The film and TV catalogue is also by far the most limited of any major western airline.

My flights (3 long haul, 2 within Europe) were last December. Maybe they changed by then? Just checked my TR - I complimented the IFE (comparing it, in recent experience with QF, QR, TK and SQ). It was the wi-fi that was flaky.
 
Two pillows; I asked for another and got one on one of my flights. Having a bad lower back, I was very worried about the slouch/lack of support, but it was fine on 3 long haul legs.




100%! The food, IFE and crew are wonderful.
Good to know, Roo, thanks. Feeling reassured!
 
Did 8 flights in this seat in 2024.

Every single flight the IFE stopped working and had to be reset.

The film and TV catalogue is also by far the most limited of any major western airline.
Gosh really? I did 6 and no problems with any. Some you win..some you lose i guess Unlike QF where certainly I just don't fly them "long haul " as a matter of course but across from Perth to Sydney 3 times...at over 5 hours per sector .the 330 as scheduled got changed to the awful 737, the food was rubbish, the seat pants, the IFE was on your own device, the internet failed and the cost was almost equivalent of flying between Asia and Finland on AY. ,😧😁
 
Im the opposite, in terms of hard product the QF J seat (especially on A380) has more accessible storage.

Well, considering AY don't fly A380s, that's not really a fair comparison. AY A350s (which Qantas doesn't fly) has as much accessible storage as you'd want if you want to go any plane comparison.

I used my QR PJs :)
 
My only noise problem was from a snoring pax well settled in his Finnair seat who was gently woken by the crew twice to say he was noisy and offered something (no idea what it was) to try and help. Perhaps he had a cold or something ...but it was loud. Well handled by the crew.
 
Well, considering AY don't fly A380s, that's not really a fair comparison. AY A350s (which Qantas doesn't fly) has as much accessible storage as you'd want if you want to go any plane comparison.
Disagree given one of the alternative aircraft choices if flying on a QF flight number to Europe is an A380 with more accessible storage and more comfortable seat.

The storage on the AY A333 (which i flew on HEL to JFK)with this non reclining seat was impractical . There is room for a tablet but not enough for shoes or a handbag or jumper.

I used my QR PJs :)
Which doesn't change fact that AY don't provide any.
 
Looking back at photos when I took AY business from HKG to HEL, there's definitely less storage space compared to QF's business product on the A330 / B787 / A380.

If you have a tablet or similar, at least on QF you'd be able to store it within the console shelf.

AY on the other hand, you've really only got the compartment along the fuselage between the console and footwell.
 
Disagree given one of the alternative aircraft choices if flying on a QF flight number to Europe is an A380 with more accessible storage and more comfortable seat.

The storage on the AY A333 (which i flew on HEL to JFK)with this non reclining seat was impractical . There is room for a tablet but not enough for shoes or a handbag or jumper.


Which doesn't change fact that AY don't provide any.
Storage space and PJs are not everything....,😁. Clean, tidy aeroplanes, attentive staff without being intrusive, good food (certainly I like it) and decent IFE makes it more agreeable to me. ,🤭...and at a much better cost....always.
 

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