Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

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>>>> ADDED BY ADMIN (6 Sept 2010) <<<<

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Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

Guidelines for posting in this thread
Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

When answering questions, please include the original question. This will assist in readability and management of the thread.

Thanks!

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[serfty]

Its mentioned in post 1, but D is discounted Business ... just not as discounted as I.

 

[Happy Trails]

... just not as discounted as I.

Serfty, you will never be discounted on AFF.

 

[im.daniel]

Can I bother someone to look up the loading for: SQ 286 - AKL-SIN 24/12? Thank you in advance

 

[madrooster]

Can I bother someone to look up the loading for: SQ 286 - AKL-SIN 24/12? Thank you in advance

SQ 286  R9 F9 A9 ZL CL JL UL /AKL I SIN 0  1330    1905  E0/388      10:35
             DL S9 T9 PL YL BL EL ML HL WL QL GL LL

Sold out in Y and J, but this is from an AU PoS.

 

[im.daniel]

SQ 286  R9 F9 A9 ZL CL JL UL /AKL I SIN 0  1330    1905  E0/388      10:35
             DL S9 T9 PL YL BL EL ML HL WL QL GL LL

Sold out in Y and J, but this is from an AU PoS.

Thank you very much madrooster! Very interesting ... First and Y+ seem wide open

 

[mooingchicken]

Can someone check QF64 for me (JNB-SYD) for the 28th/29th and 30th if its not to much trouble?

 

[JohnM]

Can someone check QF64 for me (JNB-SYD) for the 28th/29th and 30th if its not to much trouble?

Here you go:

 

[Ansett]

Hi Could some one please advise loads on the following flights on Friday 27th November.

CX 347

CX 135

Many thanks

 

[Awesom Andy]

CX347: J5 C5 D5 I3 W9 R8 E2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N3 Q6 O0
CX135: J9 C9 D7 I1 W9 R7 E4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V7 S0 N6 Q0 O0

135 seems surprisingly empty for a Friday evening.

 

[JohnM]

Hi Could some one please advise loads on the following flights on Friday 27th November.

CX 347

CX 135

Many thanks

The way EF works requires the departure and destination cities as well as the airline. Flight numbers are not so important as EF pulls up all flights for that port/airline combination on that day.

 

[Ansett]

CX347: J5 C5 D5 I3 W9 R8 E2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N3 Q6 O0
CX135: J9 C9 D7 I1 W9 R7 E4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V7 S0 N6 Q0 O0

135 seems surprisingly empty for a Friday evening.

Thanks for that and surprising as both flights showing virtually no seats available to select >D

 

[Ansett]

The way EF works requires the departure and destination cities as well as the airline. Flight numbers are not so important as EF pulls up all flights for that port/airline combination on that day.

Thanks for that just for interest the flights are PEK-HKG and then HKG-MEL

Cheers

 

[Awesom Andy]

Thanks for that and surprising as both flights showing virtually no seats available to select >D

There was one occasion about a month ago where the CX flight was full, although EF was showing high availability in almost all classes. I think it was a SYD-HKG flight but can't remember exactly what it was. Either there's a glitch somewhere, or perhaps they had 10 seats spare and were willing to flog them off at any price on the same day.

 

[madrooster]

Thanks for that and surprising as both flights showing virtually no seats available to select >D

CX blocks numerous rows in their Y cabins from online selection so it's a bit of a false sense of security just looking at the online seat map..

 

[esseeeayeenn]

Two things.
First, the seat map is a completely different thing to availability.
The seat map won't show pax who haven't selected a seat. So the number of unallocated seats is no indication of the number of available tickets.
Second, CX often release unsold seats as award seats 5 days prior to departure.

 

[Ansett]

Two things.
First, the seat map is a completely different thing to availability.
The seat map won't show pax who haven't selected a seat. So the number of unallocated seats is no indication of the number of available tickets.
Second, CX often release unsold seats as award seats 5 days prior to departure.

In our case it is more so that CX is showing high availability as kindly provided earlier by Awesome Andy where as the seat map is showing the majority of the seats as unavailable. One would have suspected that it would show up as more seats available especially to an Emerald.

 

[Sera]

hi folks
would anyone be able to help re loading for qf1 4 december and qf2 3 january.
WP hoping for upgrade from y to J or PE on both legs. request in the system since mid June
thanks in anticipation

 

[Rebekkap]

Hi people, can someone please check the load on QF17 on 1 December? Thanks in advance

 

[esseeeayeenn]

Hi people, can someone please check the load on QF17 on 1 December? Thanks in advance

It would be very helpful if people could put the route in their requests.
Expert Flyer requires the departure, destination and date to do a query, and we need the flight number to know which results to report to you.
It would be easier if we didn't have to do preliminary research to find these details.

J9 C9 D9 I9 W4 R4 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 G0 E9

 

[Rebekkap]

It would be very helpful if people could put the route in their requests.
Expert Flyer requires the departure, destination and date to do a query, and we need the flight number to know which results to report to you.
It would be easier if we didn't have to do preliminary research to find these details.

J9 C9 D9 I9 W4 R4 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 G0 E9

Thank you, and I didn't realise Expert Flyer wanted origin/destination - I'll definitely include them next time.

Looks like a fairly light load.