Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Sprucegoose · Sep 2, 2010

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

>>>> ADDED BY ADMIN (6 Sept 2010) <<<<

Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

Guidelines for posting in this thread
Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

When answering questions, please include the original question. This will assist in readability and management of the thread.

Thanks!

For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer

If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

>>>> END OF ADMIN UPDATE <<<<

Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

legroom · Aug 29, 2013

scheps said:
May i ask, if J,C,D,I all indicate 9 for a given flight, is that any indication of chance of seat release by request at 131211? And even if so, that clearly rules out any possibility of a mASA?

See here for some info

Short reply, Classic YES but mASA NO

JohnM · Aug 29, 2013

Mr_Orange said:
You would need availability in U for a JASA.

I'm wondering whether the questioner meant this: given that most J classes are showing 9, does that indicate they may drop one to U if you phone and ask?

I can't imagine it would be the case a long way out, but what about close to the date of the flight?

Mr_Orange · Aug 29, 2013

JohnM said:
I'm wondering whether the questioner meant this: given that most J classes are showing 9, does that indicate they may drop one to U if you phone and ask?

I can't imagine it would be the case a long way out, but what about close to the date of the flight?

Yes, for a WP, it does, however you cannot then book that as a JASA. It has to be a Classic Award.

EDIT: subject to approval by yield management.

scheps · Aug 29, 2013

JohnM said:
I'm wondering whether the questioner meant this: given that most J classes are showing 9, does that indicate they may drop one to U if you phone and ask?

I can't imagine it would be the case a long way out, but what about close to the date of the flight?

Yep spot on, sorry i should have worded it better. I guess I was wondering if there was a threshold (JCDI < #X) before a 0% U conversion.

Or say if "I" drops down to 0, then is that a hard indication that there is no chance of an award release?

Ansett · Aug 31, 2013

Hi all

Mrs Ansett and I are off on QF35 on 5th September and looking at flights stats it is indicating 36 seats available in J class yet the bird has only 30 seats in J? Why the difference.

it is also showing a minimum of 106 seats available over the various Y booking classes. Any idea what the actuals are for this flight please and the probability of either an upgrade or free seats to spread out in?

Many thanks

Omarko_man · Aug 31, 2013

as I mentioned earlier, I am on QF5 to SIN next Friday and this is what flightstats is reporting in terms of seat availability:

[TD="class: availSeatsValue cabinValue"]J/9 C/9 D/9 I/9 U/0[/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsLabel, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsValue cabinValue"]W/9 R/9 T/9 Z/1 Y/9 B/9 H/9 K/9 M/9 L/9 V/9 S/9 N/9 Q/9 O/9 G/0 X/9 E/0[/TD]

Does that mean that my points request to J from Y is going to get through as the plane load seems to be VERY light ?

thanks

amaroo · Aug 31, 2013

Omarko_man said:
as I mentioned earlier, I am on QF5 to SIN next Friday and this is what flightstats is reporting in terms of seat availability:

[TD="class: availSeatsValue cabinValue"]J/9 C/9 D/9 I/9 U/0[/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsLabel, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsValue cabinValue"]W/9 R/9 T/9 Z/1 Y/9 B/9 H/9 K/9 M/9 L/9 V/9 S/9 N/9 Q/9 O/9 G/0 X/9 E/0[/TD]

Does that mean that my points request to J from Y is going to get through as the plane load seems to be VERY light ?

thanks

I'm an amateur in the dark art of upgrades........but I'd say YES! As long as every other person in W/Y isn't planning on doing the same.

serfty · Sep 1, 2013

Ansett said:
Hi all

Mrs Ansett and I are off on QF35 on 5th September and looking at flights stats it is indicating 36 seats available in J class yet the bird has only 30 seats in J? Why the difference.

it is also showing a minimum of 106 seats available over the various Y booking classes. Any idea what the actuals are for this flight please and the probability of either an upgrade or free seats to spread out in?

Many thanks

I suggest you read this thread (which is also linked in post #1 of this thread):

http://www.australianfrequentflyer....scussion/understanding-expert-flyer-9314.html

Then maybe you can rephrase your question.

other than that it seems rather empty ... upgrades are possible ...

Ansett · Sep 2, 2013

serfty said:
I suggest you read this thread (which is also linked in post #1 of this thread):

http://www.australianfrequentflyer....scussion/understanding-expert-flyer-9314.html

Then maybe you can rephrase your question.

other than that it seems rather empty ... upgrades are possible ...

Thanks Serfty Upgrade request in as it is my 50Th Birthday it would be a nice present

Henk · Sep 2, 2013

Hi all

Is anyone able to give me the loadings for QF10 on 4/9/2013 please?

Thanks.

defurax · Sep 2, 2013

henk said:
hi all

is anyone able to give me the loadings for qf10 on 4/9/2013 please?

Thanks.

qf 10 lhr 22:30 → mel 5:15
f2 a2 p0 j3 c0 d0 i0 u0 w0 r0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v8 s9 n9 q9 o4 g0 x5 e0

5teve · Sep 3, 2013