General Coronavirus chit chat thread - non-travel specific

[lovetravellingoz]

Victoria had been ticking along at 50/60 cases a day an so one has to wonder why the sudden jump to 111.

A cluster, a few planes arriving,a sudden expansion in testing?

 

[drron]

A super spreader?

 

[p--and--t]

A friend of mine was worried about this yesterday. He has a tenant who has given him problems for years. He is currently $5,000 in arrears and my friend has been going through the process to evict him. He has already given him one notice and now can actually evict him, so was rushing off yesterday to get the eviction notice before things change and he wasn’t able to.

You are going to regret raising that subject with me.

The process in Victoria now is very heavily biased towards the tenant and has been for 3-4 years.

Took me nearly two years to remove a tenant that was not paying the rent. Some tenants know exactly how to play the game. Wait until you get a final notice, wait until the final day before it can be taken to VCAT and pay a token amount maybe $10-50 to force the whole cycle "wait and notification" cycle to commence again. Over and over again.

When you finally get in front of VCAT, the first decision from VCAT is usually to issue an order to the tenant to start paying rent and pay the outstanding in small token amounts over the next 6 months or so. Of course the money doesn't come in and the tenants start the "whole wait and notify and pay a token amount but no rent cycle" again.

When you do manage after a year and a half of stuffing around and incurring notification and postage fees and court fees to eventually get a final order from VCAT to get them to leave, they stay because they know the police won't take any action for at minimum of three weeks after the eviction order is signed.

As soon as the tenants are advised the date the police will be coming, the night before they do a runner and the police arrive to find a dirty house full of rubbish and often several items damaged. The only recourse remaining is insurance if you have a good policy, all the ducks lined up and comprehensive documentation. Then you end up with arguments of what is fair wear and tear and end up paying for reinstatement with only partial reimbursement.

But of course in the media it's always those nasty landlords that have to be legislated into oblivion.

 

[tgh]

Samoans et al , are a far more efficient and cost effective solution to recalcitrant tenants

 

[p--and--t]

A super spreader?

I saw a report, can't recall where, 90% of the 111 were overseas arrivals.

 

[Pushka]

Samoans et al , are a far more efficient and cost effective solution to recalcitrant tenants

And Bikies too I Hear

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I saw a report, can't recall where, 90% of the 111 were overseas arrivals.

Over 20% of our total positive cases in SA are just from Ruby Princess and we still have another week to go.

 

[Cossie]

The son of a good friend visited a bunnings on the central coast last weekend, unusual as he can't hammer a nail in straight, anyway whilst waiting for a park a person reverses into him, he gets out wanting to exchange details, middle aged woman driver says, "I not going to give you my details".

OK, he asks again, same response so he start taking photos of her number plate and car. He asks again about details and said that he was going to record her answer, same as before, not giving them to you and she apparently added, the police are so busy with other more important matters at the moment that they won't bother chasing up a old lady, her words!

Then another car managed to reverse into him as well on the other side! That person did do the right thing though, swapped details.

Friend's grand daughter said later, "Daddy angry, daddy very angry".

Guess it's up to the insurance company to sort that one out. They have 2 vehicles, a good family car and a ratty old ute, guess which one he was in at the time.

 

[Denali]

My friend lives at Palm Beach and said there's 3 police cars trying to clear the beach because people are still not getting it.

The son of a good friend visited a bunnings on the central coast last weekend, unusual as he can't hammer a nail in straight, anyway whilst waiting for a park a person reverses into him, he gets out wanting to exchange details, middle aged woman driver says, "I not going to give you my details".

OK, he asks again, same response so he start taking photos of her number plate and car. He asks again about details and said that he was going to record her answer, same as before, not giving them to you and she apparently added, the police are so busy with other more important matters at the moment that they won't bother chasing up a old lady, her words!

Then another car managed to reverse into him as well on the other side! That person did do the right thing though, swapped details.

Friend's grand daughter said later, "Daddy angry, daddy very angry".

Guess it's up to the insurance company to sort that one out. They have 2 vehicles, a good family car and a ratty old ute, guess which one he was in at the time.

3/4 of our fleet damage happens at Bunnings. I always park as far away from the entrance as possible.

And for today's light humor

https://www.facebook.com/429984034442450/posts/656370605137124

 

[PineappleSkip]

i have a friend in Victoria in the middle of sewing 54 scrub hats. She has two friends sewing another 50 each. Apparently it’s a thing among craft people - she even copied me in the request and I can barely thread a needle. They are very brightly coloured and patterned so a new trend in scrubs

Mrs Pineapple is furiously sewing gaily coloured scrub caps as I write. Expect panic fabric buying at spotlight any time soon

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Is this life insurance? This has always been based on the probability of dying with a % for the insurer. Sadly, the odds of a frontline healthcare worker or someone with lung disease dying at the moment is so much higher than usual that premiums would be astronomical (and likely incalculable)
If it's private health insurance that is just dumb as it's irrelevant in the allocation of ICU beds

i believe it was life insurance. And only for new policies. Those with existing policies - including through super - are still covered. Understandable that you probably can't have everyone running out now to buy life insurance.

News just came out that Victoria has the biggest daily increase of 111 cases, however, it's also been revealed 90+% are from people returning overseas or had contact with people overseas. So is it a little alarmist to have headlines like this when the returnees are already subject to quarantined and are not out in the open to transmit the virus to others?

Also, I rarely hear about the recovery, probably only once a week. Isn't that an important statistic too?

The problem is the 'lag time' or incubation period. These folk may have returned from overseas... but how did they get home? Bus? Taxi? Did they visit the shop before isolating (we've seen reported cases of that).

What is happening now probably started 5-14 days ago

 

[Bundy Bear]

just a thought bubble
If someone has recovered from coronavirus are they free to travel or do they have to isolate for 14 days.

 

[tgh]

There isn't enough wine in my house to dull the pain of this dreadful forecast..

March 27 (GMT)

• 
  18691 new cases and 401 new deaths in the United States
  
  NEW YORK (from New York Governor Cuomo daily briefing):
  • Apex of hospital need could be in 21 days from now in New York
  • All hospitals need to increase capacity by 50%, some by 100%
  • Need a total of 140,000 hospital beds. Currently have 53,000 (an additional 87,000 hospital beds are needed)
  • Need a total of 40,000 ICU beds. Currently have 3,000, with 3,000 ventilators. An additional 37,000 ICU beds are needed
  • Will use college dormitories, hotels, nursing homes, and all possible space by converting it to hospitals if needed in April
  • 138,376 people have been tested
  • Schools will stay closed for an additional 2 weeks after April 1, to then reassess the situation and extend again if needed. 180 days requirement has been waived
  • "This is not going to be a short deployment [...] This is going to be weeks, and weeks, and weeks[...] This is a rescue mission you are on, to save lives. [...] You are living a moment in history that will change and forge character"

 

[I love to travel]

There isn't enough wine in my house to dull the pain of this dreadful forecast..

March 27 (GMT)

• 
  18691 new cases and 401 new deaths in the United States
  
  NEW YORK (from New York Governor Cuomo daily briefing):
  • Apex of hospital need could be in 21 days from now in New York
  • All hospitals need to increase capacity by 50%, some by 100%
  • Need a total of 140,000 hospital beds. Currently have 53,000 (an additional 87,000 hospital beds are needed)
  • Need a total of 40,000 ICU beds. Currently have 3,000, with 3,000 ventilators. An additional 37,000 ICU beds are needed
  • Will use college dormitories, hotels, nursing homes, and all possible space by converting it to hospitals if needed in April
  • 138,376 people have been tested
  • Schools will stay closed for an additional 2 weeks after April 1, to then reassess the situation and extend again if needed. 180 days requirement has been waived
  • "This is not going to be a short deployment [...] This is going to be weeks, and weeks, and weeks[...] This is a rescue mission you are on, to save lives. [...] You are living a moment in history that will change and forge character"

Really don't know what to say. Very sad times.

 

[Himeno]

Expect additional restrictions and closures Monday or Tuesday. Look at places like Italy for ideas of what they'll be.

 

[I love to travel]

Expect additional restrictions and closures Monday or Tuesday. Look at places like Italy for ideas of what they'll be.

Given your expertise is supermarkets is your comment confined to that area?

 

[Denali]

A message from South Africa

https://www.facebook.com/1416882140/posts/10216599131436867

 

[Denali]

Given your expertise is supermarkets is your comment confined to that area?

I have friend that works for the emergency services and I was told a couple of days ago full lockdown was a week away

 

[I love to travel]

I have friend that works for the emergency services and I was told a couple of days ago full lockdown was a week away

Does not surprise me. Was hoping @Himeno could provide a little more clarity. I have some contextual info I have not posted because I don't want to cause panic but if I had some coborating info I would.

 

[tgh]

I agree that the lockdown is imminent.
I have tried to have everything stocked up, 60 bales of hay yesterday and all the feed bins are full to overflowing..but have I enough, will I be able to buy simple stuff like a bag of oats or dog or cat food.
Everyone is closing up and running for cover but the needs of the voiceless continue…..

 

[Himeno]

Given your expertise is supermarkets is your comment confined to that area?

Retail in general, predictions based on overseas experiences, internal comms and sister in law is a lawyer at HQ for other major supermarket. Other stores in shopping center have already closed, or will be closing from Monday, despite current government restrictions allowing them to open.
Woolworths has new social distance requirements starting Monday and has told all stores to get at least 12m worth of barrier.
Stores to limit amount of people inside at any one time. Entry/exit points controlled and separate.