General Discussion/Q&A on Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[flydoc]

And just to show that some never learn from their mistakes was the case of the Pacific Dawn.
"SYDNEY (AFP) – Australian authorities defended a decision to let 2,000 passengers off a cruise ship where there was a suspected swine flu outbreak, as the confirmed cases here more than doubled in 24 hours.

Despite suspicions a number of people on board the Pacific Dawn liner were suffering swine flu more than 2,000 passengers were allowed to return to the community Monday and told to self-quarantine for seven days.

A total of 14 passengers have since been diagnosed with the deadly virus, with 172 people on board showing flu-like symptoms or reporting contact with someone who did."

Australia: Swine flu on cruise ship Pacific Dawn - FluTrackers News and Information

flutrackers.com

It’ll be interesting to see if that is referenced in the report of the current Special Commission of Inquiry into the Ruby Princess. Those who don’t learn from history....

 

[Pushka]

Well the nice period of putting politics aside was good while it lasted .

Had to have a giggle when simple Simon fired petty potshots at Anna over the QLD border being closed when she came back with the following barrage. Serves him right.

'Go and talk to your own Premier': Annastacia Palaszczuk fires back at Federal Tourism Minister

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk lashes out at accusations she's "pretending" Australia hasn't had success in tackling coronavirus as justification for keeping the state's borders closed.

www.abc.net.au

I hope to heck he does have a chat with the SA Premier. His current mantra is that we are running our own race and it's getting sickening.
Although the way Qld is going the rest of Australia may need protection from them.

Rumour is that our border is going on 15 June.

 

[jase05]

Rumour is that our border is going on 15 June.

Very interesting. We haven’t been given any inkling of when the border will open yet.
Would help us immensely if it was to open then

 

[jeza]

A live export ship docked at Freo Port has had 6 crew test positive.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1265150102710018049

 

[p--and--t]

A live export ship docked at Freo Port has had 6 crew test positive.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1265150102710018049

If any a NZers, might have to test the sheep too . (I have lots of Kiwi friends, and one in the family, and they don't take offence.)

 

[TheRealTMA]

More than 40% of Republicans in a new poll say they think Bill Gates wants to use COVID-19 vaccines to implant location-tracking microchips in recipients

Bill Gates has become the target of online conspiracy theorists and conservative pundits over his coronavirus vaccination efforts.

www.businessinsider.com.au

 

[Pushka]

Very interesting. We haven’t been given any inkling of when the border will open yet.
Would help us immensely if it was to open then

Rumour only but we can hope.

 

[p--and--t]

More than 40% of Republicans in a new poll say they think Bill Gates wants to use COVID-19 vaccines to implant location-tracking microchips in recipients

Bill Gates has become the target of online conspiracy theorists and conservative pundits over his coronavirus vaccination efforts.

www.businessinsider.com.au

...so many sheep, such low discerning IQ, sad really.

 

[jase05]

Rumour only but we can hope.

Wonder if today’s case changes things.


South Australia has recorded its first new coronavirus case in 18 days, breaking the state’s streak without active cases.

The woman in her 50s had recently arrived from overseas and had been quarantining in a Victorian hotel.

She had flown into South Australia and was exempt from the state’s 14-day compulsory self-isolation for compassionate reasons.

SA Health says she has very mild symptoms and is now self-isolating.

 

[Pushka]

Wonder if today’s case changes things.


South Australia has recorded its first new coronavirus case in 18 days, breaking the state’s streak without active cases.

The woman in her 50s had recently arrived from overseas and had been quarantining in a Victorian hotel.

She had flown into South Australia and was exempt from the state’s 14-day compulsory self-isolation for compassionate reasons.

SA Health says she has very mild symptoms and is now self-isolating.

Why the frick don't they test people before releasing from quarantine! She's now potentially infected people on the plane.

 

[jase05]

Why the frick don't they test people before releasing from quarantine! She's now potentially infected people on the plane.

Contacting passengers around her apparently but yes totally agree.

 

[Pushka]

Contacting passengers around her apparently but yes totally agree.

Given she's from Victoria that's a kybosh for the border then.

 

[jase05]

Given she's from Victoria that's a kybosh for the border then.

Apparently she isn’t an Australian citizen so I’m thinking perhaps she was here for a funeral?
Still more to come out obviously but doesn’t sound like she did the complete 14 days quarantine or wasn’t tested before being released

 

[Pushka]

Apparently she isn’t an Australian citizen so I’m thinking perhaps she was here for a funeral?
Still more to come out obviously but doesn’t sound like she did the complete 14 days quarantine or wasn’t tested before being released

I understand the compassionate grounds but the Virus doesn't discriminate who it infects. I'm surprised that she was given such freedoms to come to Australia when others have been denied such compassion. And this should not be recorded as a positive for the state. She should still be in quarantine! And tested before she left if given an exemption to leave early. This kind of stuff really presses my button.

ABC news
South Australia has recorded its first COVID-19 case in 19 days — an overseas traveller who was given an exemption from quarantine.

SA Health says the woman aged in her 50s had travelled from overseas to Victoria where she had been quarantined in a hotel for less than a week, before travelling to South Australia.

She was given an exemption to fly to South Australia for "compelling family reasons" and was tested on arrival at Adelaide Airport.

Chief Public Health Officer Nicola Spurrier said the woman is now isolated and there is "no further risk" to anybody in South Australia.

Dr Spurrier said the woman had a "significant number" of contacts in South Australia, who would be followed up on.

However, all of those people were associated with her flight and her time at Adelaide Airport, and the woman had not been "freely moving around" the state.

"I know this might come as a surprise to many people because we have had so many days now with no cases, but it is a very timely reminder," Dr Spurrier said.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Given she's from Victoria that's a kybosh for the border then.

Perhaps wait and see if anyone gets infected? She may actually be a validation that 14 days is an appropriate duration for quarantine, and is so this could actually be good news.

Testing positive does not mean that a person is necessarily infectious. The research to date all tends to suggest that people are at their most infectious early in.

As all her close contacts will now be monitored and tested this will provide a good case study.

 

[drron]

She should have been tested before leaving quarantine in Melbourne.no excuse as Victoria has been testing thousands a day.

And I don't get why she was granted an exemption from quarantine for SA.But at least SA did the right thing by testing her on arrival.but did they then tell her to self quarantine and she ignored that?

Here in Tassie I have been involved in several cases now where family have been granted an exemption allowing travel to Tasmania.But they usually have had to quarantine with family and are required to wear a mask if going out-which is to go to the hospital.The exception was a family member who arrived from OS and was given an exemption also allowing her to do the mandatory hotel quarantine here in Launceston but escorted to the hospital to see her dying family member.

 

[RooFlyer]

Well the nice period of putting politics aside was good while it lasted .
...
when simple Simon fired petty potshot at Anna ...

Yeah, its tiresome when petty politics gets injected into a conversation, isn't it ...

 

[Quickstatus]

Imagine if we had a robust supply of PPE

 

[p--and--t]

Imagine if we had a robust supply of PPE

There are supplies around - at least of masks - I bought 150 P2 (hospital grade wet aerosol) surgical masks through a chemist friend about 4 weeks ago which will last me for a good 9 months as I don't go out every day.

 

[drron]

Talking of PPE an article in the SMH about surgical masks.

Counterfeit face masks sold to Australian hospitals

Some front line healthcare workers have been supplied with sub-standard face masks as companies exploit a Therapeutic Goods Administration rule change designed to ease a shortage of protective equipment, experts warn.

www.smh.com.au

I liked this from Victoria-
"A spokesman for the Victorian Department of Health and Human Services said it had "processes in place to detect any potential issues with PPE supplies, including masks, before they are distributed state-wide."

"Only PPE registered with the Therapeutic Goods Administration is provided to hospitals in Victoria."

The problem is the masks basically aren't tested by the TGA.Here in Tas they did buy surgical masks by TGA accredited companies but tested them all in RHH.All Chinese masks failed.Some had been distributed but recalled.Now most supplied here are made in Shepparton.
The failed masks are what you buy in many discount stores and discount pharmacies.Always check where they are made.