General Discussion/Q&A on Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[get me outta here]

Well it went so well for Trump, what could possibly go wrong.

Perhaps Bolsonaro will do a similar thing.

Apparently Boris is now going to front the press conference daily

 

[Princess Fiona]

Talking of PPE an article in the SMH about surgical masks.

Counterfeit face masks sold to Australian hospitals

Some front line healthcare workers have been supplied with sub-standard face masks as companies exploit a Therapeutic Goods Administration rule change designed to ease a shortage of protective equipment, experts warn.

www.smh.com.au

I liked this from Victoria-
"A spokesman for the Victorian Department of Health and Human Services said it had "processes in place to detect any potential issues with PPE supplies, including masks, before they are distributed state-wide."

"Only PPE registered with the Therapeutic Goods Administration is provided to hospitals in Victoria."

The problem is the masks basically aren't tested by the TGA.Here in Tas they did buy surgical masks by TGA accredited companies but tested them all in RHH.All Chinese masks failed.Some had been distributed but recalled.Now most supplied here are made in Shepparton.
The failed masks are what you buy in many discount stores and discount pharmacies.Always check where they are made.

The fake P2/N95 masks are way more widespread than even that article states......

 

[Quickstatus]

Imagine if we had a robust supply of PPE

...Repeat...

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Talking of PPE an article in the SMH about surgical masks.

Counterfeit face masks sold to Australian hospitals

Some front line healthcare workers have been supplied with sub-standard face masks as companies exploit a Therapeutic Goods Administration rule change designed to ease a shortage of protective equipment, experts warn.

www.smh.com.au

I liked this from Victoria-
"A spokesman for the Victorian Department of Health and Human Services said it had "processes in place to detect any potential issues with PPE supplies, including masks, before they are distributed state-wide."

"Only PPE registered with the Therapeutic Goods Administration is provided to hospitals in Victoria."

The problem is the masks basically aren't tested by the TGA.Here in Tas they did buy surgical masks by TGA accredited companies but tested them all in RHH.All Chinese masks failed.Some had been distributed but recalled.Now most supplied here are made in Shepparton.
The failed masks are what you buy in many discount stores and discount pharmacies.Always check where they are made.

I am sure that what Renato bought online were all hunky dorry,...

 

[Princess Fiona]

I am sure that what Renato bought online only where all hunky dorry,...

Same with the stockpile

 

[joon8887]

Has anyone transited from either Changi or Tokyo recently?
I think Singapore is allowing transit for now. Are we even allow to transit in Tokyo? Looks like JAL is flying SYD - NARITA

 

[Flashback]

Has anyone transited from either Changi or Tokyo recently?
I think Singapore is allowing transit for now. Are we even allow to transit in Tokyo? Looks like JAL is flying SYD - NARITA

Singapore doesn't allow transit again until June.

Here is the current travel situation for Japan:
Published 27.05.2020
1. Passengers and airline crew who have transited through or have been in Afghanistan, Albania, Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Canada, Cape Verde, Chile, China (People's Rep.), Chinese Taipei, Congo (Dem. Rep.), Colombia, Cote d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cyprus, Czechia, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Rep., Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Estonia, Finland, France, Gabon, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Honduras, Hong Kong (SAR China), Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Ireland (Rep.), Israel, Italy, Kazakhstan, Korea (Rep.), Kosovo (Rep.), Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macao (SAR China), Malaysia, Maldives, Malta, Mauritius, Mexico, Moldova (Rep.), Monaco, Montenegro, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, North Macedonia (Rep.), Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Russian Fed., San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, St. Kitts and Nevis, Sweden, Switzerland, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Uruguay, USA, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, Vatican City (Holy See) or Viet Nam in the past 14 days are not allowed to enter.
- This does not apply to nationals of Japan.
- This does not apply to spouses or children of nationals of Japan if they can prove it.
- This does not apply to residents of Japan with “Permanent Resident", "Spouse or Child of Japanese National", "Spouse or Child of Permanent Resident" or "Long Term Resident", who have departed Japan with Re-entry Permission by 2 April 2020.
- This does not apply to residents of Japan with “Permanent Resident", "Spouse or Child of Japanese National", "Spouse or Child of Permanent Resident" or "Long Term Resident", who have departed Japan with Re-entry Permission between 3 April and 28 April 2020 and have only been in Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Cape Verde, Colombia, Djibouti, Dominican Rep., El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Honduras, India, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Mexico, Maldives, Oman, Pakistan, Peru, Qatar, Russian Fed., Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, St. Kitts and Nevis, Tajikistan, United Arab Emirates, Ukraine or Uruguay.
- This does not apply to residents of Japan with “Permanent Resident", "Spouse or Child of Japanese National", "Spouse or Child of Permanent Resident" or "Long Term Resident", who have departed Japan with Re-entry Permission between 29 April and 15 May 2020 and have only been in Afghanistan, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Cape Verde, Colombia, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Honduras, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mexico, Maldives, Pakistan, South Africa, Sao Tome and Principe, Tajikistan or Uruguay.
- This does not apply to residents of Japan with “Permanent Resident", "Spouse or Child of Japanese National", "Spouse or Child of Permanent Resident" or "Long Term Resident", who have departed Japan with Re-entry Permission between 16 May and 26 May 2020 and have only been in Afghanistan, Argentina, Bangladesh, El Salvador, Ghana, Guinea, India, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, South Africa or Tajikistan.
- This does not apply to passengers with a Special Permanent Residence Permit. However, they must have a Re-entry Permit from a regional immigration officer.
- This does not apply to US military personnel.
- This does not apply to airline crew if they comply with the following requirements:
(a) each crewmember must submit a quarantine questionnaire;
(b) each crewmember must submit and a "Plan of Stay in Japan" declaration;
(c) crews should adhere to the instructions provided in the quarantine document "Notice: For Crews boarding vehicles from areas subject to strengthened quarantine";
(d) airlines should arrange chartered vehicles (as opposed to public transportation) to transport crews between the airport and their hotel; and
(e) airlines should ensure that crews comply with items (a) through (d) above during their stay in Japan.
2. Passengers and airline crew who have been in Albania, Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Bahrain, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, China (People's Rep.), Chinese Taipei, Congo (Dem. Rep.), Cote d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cyprus, Czechia, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Rep., Ecuador, Egypt, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong (SAR China), Hungary, Iceland, Indonesia, Iran, Ireland (Rep.), Israel, Italy, Korea (Rep.), Kosovo (Rep.), Kuwait, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macao (SAR China), Malaysia, Malta, Mauritius, Moldova (Rep.), Monaco, Montenegro, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, North Macedonia (Rep.), Norway, Oman, Panama, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Russian Fed., San Marino, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, St. Kitts and Nevis, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, USA, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, Vatican City (Holy See) or Viet Nam in the past 14 days must submit a quarantine questionnaire upon arrival.
3. Visa exemption for passengers with passengers with a British passport, Hong Kong (SAR China) passport, Macao (SAR China) passport is suspended.
4. Visa exemption for nationals of Andorra, Argentina, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Costa Rica, Croatia, Czechia, Cyprus, Denmark, Dominican Rep., El Salvador, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, Indonesia, Iran, Ireland (Rep.), Israel, Italy, Korea (Rep.), Latvia, Lesotho, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Mexico, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Suriname, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates, Uruguay and Vatican City (Holy See) is suspended.
5. Visa exemption for nationals of Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Cambodia, Colombia, Georgia, India, Kazakhstan, Lao People's Dem. Rep., Mongolia, Myanmar, Nauru, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Qatar, Samoa, Solomon Isl., Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Viet Nam with a diplomatic, official or service passport is suspended.
6. Passengers and airline crew who are eligible to enter Japan and have been in Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Canada, Cape Verde, Chile, China (People's Rep.), Chinese Taipei, Colombia, Congo (Dem. Rep.), Cote d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cyprus, Czechia, Dominica, Ecuador, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Finland, Gabon, Greece, Guinea-Bissau, Honduras, Hong Kong (SAR China), Hungary, Israel, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Korea (Rep.), Kosovo (Rep.), Latvia, Lithuania, Macao (SAR China), Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritius, Mexico, Moldova (Rep.), Morocco, Montenegro, New Zealand, North Macedonia, Panama, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Sao Tome and Principe, Serbia, Singapore, Slovakia, Thailand, Turkey, USA, United Kingdom, Uruguay or Viet Nam in the past 14 days are required to undergo a PCR test upon arrival.
- This does not apply to airline crew if they comply with the following requirements:
(a) each crewmember must submit a quarantine questionnaire;
(b) each crewmember must submit and a "Plan of Stay in Japan" declaration;
(c) crews should adhere to the instructions provided in the quarantine document "Notice: For Crews boarding vehicles from areas subject to strengthened quarantine";
(d) airlines should arrange chartered vehicles (as opposed to public transportation) to transport crews between the airport and their hotel; and
(e) airlines should ensure that crews comply with items (a) through (d) above during their stay in Japan.
7. Visa exemption granted to passengers with an APEC Business Travel Card issued by Brunei Darussalam, China (People's Rep.), Hong Kong (SAR China), Indonesia, Korea (Rep.), Malaysia, Mexico, Papua New Guinea, Peru, Philippines, Russian Fed., Singapore, Thailand or Viet Nam, is suspended.
8. Nationals of China (People's Rep.) with a passport issued in Hubei Province or Zhejiang Province (China People's Rep.) are not allowed to enter Japan.
- This does not apply when passengers can prove that they have not been in Hubei Province and Zhejiang Province the last 14 days.
9. Passengers who were in the cruise ship 'Westerdam' are not allowed to enter Japan. - This does not apply to nationals of Japan.
10. Visas issued on or before 8 March 2020 by the Embassies, Consulates-General and Consulate of Japan in China (People's Rep.), Hong Kong (SAR China), Korea (Rep.) or Macao (SAR China) are invalidated.
11. Visas issued on or before 20 March 2020 by the Embassies, Consulates-General and Consulate of Japan in Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czechia, Cyprus, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Iran, Ireland (Rep.), Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom or Vatican City (Holy See) are invalidated.
12. Visas issued on or before 27 March 2020 by the Embassies, Consulates-General and Consulate of Japan in Bahrain, Brunei Darussalam, Congo (Dem. Rep.), Indonesia, Israel, Malaysia, Philippines, Qatar, Singapore, Thailand or Viet Nam are invalidated.
13. Visas issued on or before 2 April 2020 by the Embassies, Consulates-General and Consulate of Japan in Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Rep., Chad, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Cook Isl., Costa Rica, Cuba, Djibouti, Dominican Rep., El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Eswatini (Swaziland), Ethiopia, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, India, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Kuwait, Lao People's Dem. Rep., Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Isl., Mauritania, Mexico, Micronesia (Federated States), Mongolia, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Niue, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Palestinian Territory, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Russian Fed., Rwanda, Samoa, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Seychelles , Sierra Leone, Solomon Isl., Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and Grenadines, Sudan, Suriname, Syria, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Timor-Leste, Togo, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Yemen, Zambia or Zimbabwe are invalidated.

 

[p--and--t]

Singapore doesn't allow transit again until June.

Here is the current travel situation for Japan:
Published 27.05.2020
1. Passengers and airline crew who have transited through or have been in Afghanistan, Albania, Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Canada, Cape Verde, Chile, China (People's Rep.), Chinese Taipei, Congo (Dem. Rep.), Colombia, Cote d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cyprus, Czechia, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Rep., Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Estonia, Finland, France, Gabon, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Honduras, Hong Kong (SAR China), Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Ireland (Rep.), Israel, Italy, Kazakhstan, Korea (Rep.), Kosovo (Rep.), Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macao (SAR China), Malaysia, Maldives, Malta, Mauritius, Mexico, Moldova (Rep.), Monaco, Montenegro, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, North Macedonia (Rep.), Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Russian Fed., San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, St. Kitts and Nevis, Sweden, Switzerland, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Uruguay, USA, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, Vatican City (Holy See) or Viet Nam in the past 14 days are not allowed to enter.
- This does not apply to nationals of Japan.
- This does not apply to spouses or children of nationals of Japan if they can prove it.
- This does not apply to residents of Japan with “Permanent Resident", "Spouse or Child of Japanese National", "Spouse or Child of Permanent Resident" or "Long Term Resident", who have departed Japan with Re-entry Permission by 2 April 2020.
- This does not apply to residents of Japan with “Permanent Resident", "Spouse or Child of Japanese National", "Spouse or Child of Permanent Resident" or "Long Term Resident", who have departed Japan with Re-entry Permission between 3 April and 28 April 2020 and have only been in Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Cape Verde, Colombia, Djibouti, Dominican Rep., El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Honduras, India, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Mexico, Maldives, Oman, Pakistan, Peru, Qatar, Russian Fed., Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, St. Kitts and Nevis, Tajikistan, United Arab Emirates, Ukraine or Uruguay.
- This does not apply to residents of Japan with “Permanent Resident", "Spouse or Child of Japanese National", "Spouse or Child of Permanent Resident" or "Long Term Resident", who have departed Japan with Re-entry Permission between 29 April and 15 May 2020 and have only been in Afghanistan, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Cape Verde, Colombia, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Honduras, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mexico, Maldives, Pakistan, South Africa, Sao Tome and Principe, Tajikistan or Uruguay.
- This does not apply to residents of Japan with “Permanent Resident", "Spouse or Child of Japanese National", "Spouse or Child of Permanent Resident" or "Long Term Resident", who have departed Japan with Re-entry Permission between 16 May and 26 May 2020 and have only been in Afghanistan, Argentina, Bangladesh, El Salvador, Ghana, Guinea, India, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, South Africa or Tajikistan.
- This does not apply to passengers with a Special Permanent Residence Permit. However, they must have a Re-entry Permit from a regional immigration officer.
- This does not apply to US military personnel.
- This does not apply to airline crew if they comply with the following requirements:
(a) each crewmember must submit a quarantine questionnaire;
(b) each crewmember must submit and a "Plan of Stay in Japan" declaration;
(c) crews should adhere to the instructions provided in the quarantine document "Notice: For Crews boarding vehicles from areas subject to strengthened quarantine";
(d) airlines should arrange chartered vehicles (as opposed to public transportation) to transport crews between the airport and their hotel; and
(e) airlines should ensure that crews comply with items (a) through (d) above during their stay in Japan.
2. Passengers and airline crew who have been in Albania, Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Bahrain, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, China (People's Rep.), Chinese Taipei, Congo (Dem. Rep.), Cote d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cyprus, Czechia, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Rep., Ecuador, Egypt, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong (SAR China), Hungary, Iceland, Indonesia, Iran, Ireland (Rep.), Israel, Italy, Korea (Rep.), Kosovo (Rep.), Kuwait, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macao (SAR China), Malaysia, Malta, Mauritius, Moldova (Rep.), Monaco, Montenegro, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, North Macedonia (Rep.), Norway, Oman, Panama, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Russian Fed., San Marino, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, St. Kitts and Nevis, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, USA, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, Vatican City (Holy See) or Viet Nam in the past 14 days must submit a quarantine questionnaire upon arrival.
3. Visa exemption for passengers with passengers with a British passport, Hong Kong (SAR China) passport, Macao (SAR China) passport is suspended.
4. Visa exemption for nationals of Andorra, Argentina, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Costa Rica, Croatia, Czechia, Cyprus, Denmark, Dominican Rep., El Salvador, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, Indonesia, Iran, Ireland (Rep.), Israel, Italy, Korea (Rep.), Latvia, Lesotho, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Mexico, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Suriname, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates, Uruguay and Vatican City (Holy See) is suspended.
5. Visa exemption for nationals of Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Cambodia, Colombia, Georgia, India, Kazakhstan, Lao People's Dem. Rep., Mongolia, Myanmar, Nauru, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Qatar, Samoa, Solomon Isl., Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Viet Nam with a diplomatic, official or service passport is suspended.
6. Passengers and airline crew who are eligible to enter Japan and have been in Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Canada, Cape Verde, Chile, China (People's Rep.), Chinese Taipei, Colombia, Congo (Dem. Rep.), Cote d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cyprus, Czechia, Dominica, Ecuador, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Finland, Gabon, Greece, Guinea-Bissau, Honduras, Hong Kong (SAR China), Hungary, Israel, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Korea (Rep.), Kosovo (Rep.), Latvia, Lithuania, Macao (SAR China), Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritius, Mexico, Moldova (Rep.), Morocco, Montenegro, New Zealand, North Macedonia, Panama, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Sao Tome and Principe, Serbia, Singapore, Slovakia, Thailand, Turkey, USA, United Kingdom, Uruguay or Viet Nam in the past 14 days are required to undergo a PCR test upon arrival.
- This does not apply to airline crew if they comply with the following requirements:
(a) each crewmember must submit a quarantine questionnaire;
(b) each crewmember must submit and a "Plan of Stay in Japan" declaration;
(c) crews should adhere to the instructions provided in the quarantine document "Notice: For Crews boarding vehicles from areas subject to strengthened quarantine";
(d) airlines should arrange chartered vehicles (as opposed to public transportation) to transport crews between the airport and their hotel; and
(e) airlines should ensure that crews comply with items (a) through (d) above during their stay in Japan.
7. Visa exemption granted to passengers with an APEC Business Travel Card issued by Brunei Darussalam, China (People's Rep.), Hong Kong (SAR China), Indonesia, Korea (Rep.), Malaysia, Mexico, Papua New Guinea, Peru, Philippines, Russian Fed., Singapore, Thailand or Viet Nam, is suspended.
8. Nationals of China (People's Rep.) with a passport issued in Hubei Province or Zhejiang Province (China People's Rep.) are not allowed to enter Japan.
- This does not apply when passengers can prove that they have not been in Hubei Province and Zhejiang Province the last 14 days.
9. Passengers who were in the cruise ship 'Westerdam' are not allowed to enter Japan. - This does not apply to nationals of Japan.
10. Visas issued on or before 8 March 2020 by the Embassies, Consulates-General and Consulate of Japan in China (People's Rep.), Hong Kong (SAR China), Korea (Rep.) or Macao (SAR China) are invalidated.
11. Visas issued on or before 20 March 2020 by the Embassies, Consulates-General and Consulate of Japan in Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czechia, Cyprus, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Iran, Ireland (Rep.), Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom or Vatican City (Holy See) are invalidated.
12. Visas issued on or before 27 March 2020 by the Embassies, Consulates-General and Consulate of Japan in Bahrain, Brunei Darussalam, Congo (Dem. Rep.), Indonesia, Israel, Malaysia, Philippines, Qatar, Singapore, Thailand or Viet Nam are invalidated.
13. Visas issued on or before 2 April 2020 by the Embassies, Consulates-General and Consulate of Japan in Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Rep., Chad, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Cook Isl., Costa Rica, Cuba, Djibouti, Dominican Rep., El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Eswatini (Swaziland), Ethiopia, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, India, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Kuwait, Lao People's Dem. Rep., Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Isl., Mauritania, Mexico, Micronesia (Federated States), Mongolia, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Niue, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Palestinian Territory, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Russian Fed., Rwanda, Samoa, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Seychelles , Sierra Leone, Solomon Isl., Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and Grenadines, Sudan, Suriname, Syria, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Timor-Leste, Togo, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Yemen, Zambia or Zimbabwe are invalidated.

Hmm, so from a scan of that, they don't think AU has done a good job as some others. Without a spreadsheet and list of every jurisdiction in the world its a bit hard to work out who is "acceptable".

 

[Himeno]

Hmm, so from a scan of that, they don't think AU has done a good job as some others. Without a spreadsheet and list of every jurisdiction in the world its a bit hard to work out who is "acceptable".

The Japanese restrictions aren't a ban per say, they are preventing the entry, except of Japanese nationals, of anyone who has been in a listed territory within the prior 14 days.
Australians can enter Japan, provided they haven't been in Australia, or one of the other 99 listed states, in the 14 days prior to applying to cross the Japanese border.
Of the places that aren't on the list, I can't think of any that have direct non stop flights to Japan, thus any flight from a (in theory) "acceptable" nation would require connecting via somewhere that is on the list, which counts as having been to that country.
You could, in theory, enter Japan by boat, provided you have spent at least 2 weeks at sea.

I don't think Japan stopped international connections, but if you had to change airports, you'd be out of luck.

 

[drron]

Though tourist arrivals in Japan in April were 99.9% down on April 2019 numbers.
April is also one of their prime months for tourism with the Cherry blossoms out.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Of the places that aren't on the list, I can't think of any that have direct non stop flights to Japan....

That sounded like a challenge I found one - CMB-TYO non-stop on Sri Lankan. Although visas for Sri Lankan nationals to Japan are cancelled.

 

[Flashback]

Well I've gone through (or am going through) the process of trying to enter Aus, not so much for myself as I hold an Australian passport so I'm fine but for Mrs FB who holds an Irish. Will report back with any details as it happens.

For now, Subclass 651 eVisitor application submitted (https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/evisitor-651#About) and also submitted the COVID-19 exception form (COVID-19 (Novel coronavirus) request to travel form).

 

[Princess Fiona]

This has just been released by Medical authorities in Singapore.

Academy of Medicine Singapore

“ Based on the accumulated data since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, the infectious period of SARS-CoV-2 in symptomatic individuals may begin around 2 days before the onset of symptoms, and persists for about 7 - 10 days after the onset of symptoms. Active viral replication drops quickly after the first week”

Perhaps we need not be so worried about those late positives from overseas travelers after all ?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

This has just been released by Medical authorities in Singapore.

Academy of Medicine Singapore

“ Based on the accumulated data since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, the infectious period of SARS-CoV-2 in symptomatic individuals may begin around 2 days before the onset of symptoms, and persists for about 7 - 10 days after the onset of symptoms. Active viral replication drops quickly after the first week”

Perhaps we need not be so worried about those late positives from overseas travelers after all ?

Thank you.

It may just be me, but the link does not appear to work.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Thank you.

It may just be me, but the link does not appear to work.

I’ll try to fix it. Thank you x

 

[TheRealTMA]

Thank you.

It may just be me, but the link does not appear to work.

Looks like they updated the paper. Try this one.

https://www.ams.edu.sg/view-pdf.aspx?file=media%5C5556_fi_331.pdf&ofile=Period+of+Infectivity+Position+Statement+(final)+23-5-20+(logos).pdf

Another interesting point (not unexpected but evidenced) “it is important to note that viral RNA detection by PCR does not equate to infectiousness or viable virus.”

 

[Princess Fiona]

Looks like they updated the paper. Try this one.

https://www.ams.edu.sg/view-pdf.aspx?file=media%5C5556_fi_331.pdf&ofile=Period+of+Infectivity+Position+Statement+(final)+23-5-20+(logos).pdf

Cheers
Just fixed the link on mine , I had copied it from my WhatsApp initially.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

This has just been released by Medical authorities in Singapore.

Academy of Medicine Singapore

“ Based on the accumulated data since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, the infectious period of SARS-CoV-2 in symptomatic individuals may begin around 2 days before the onset of symptoms, and persists for about 7 - 10 days after the onset of symptoms. Active viral replication drops quickly after the first week”

Perhaps we need not be so worried about those late positives from overseas travelers after all ?

Thank you.

Active viral replication drops quickly after the first week, and viable virus was not found after the second week of illness despite the persistence of PCR detection of RNA. These findings are supported by epidemiologic, microbiologic and clinical data. These new findings allow for revised discharge criteria based on the data on the time course of infectiousness rather than the absence of RNA detection by PCR testing, taking into consideration both the clinical and public health perspectives, including the individual patient’s physical and mental well-being.

So this also supports the 14 day period, combined with monitoring of symptoms, as being a valid one for quarantine/isolation length, and also that testing at its end is not required. Plus that where tests have been done and gained post quarantine positive results that these are not an actual guide to infectiousness.

 

[p--and--t]

Lots of people keen to get back to the gym, however, laboratory swabs of typical gym equipment has shown

"The average exercise bike harbours 39 times more bacteria than a cafeteria tray. Typical free weights have 362 times more germs than a toilet seat. And the treadmill you're running on averages 74 times more bacteria than a typical public bathroom faucet."

Hmm, and people take and use their phones there, after their hands have touched all the equipment and bring them home.

Wonder how many little epicentres of CV breakouts will surround gym usage?

 

[Pushka]

Thank you.

Active viral replication drops quickly after the first week, and viable virus was not found after the second week of illness despite the persistence of PCR detection of RNA. These findings are supported by epidemiologic, microbiologic and clinical data. These new findings allow for revised discharge criteria based on the data on the time course of infectiousness rather than the absence of RNA detection by PCR testing, taking into consideration both the clinical and public health perspectives, including the individual patient’s physical and mental well-being.

So this also supports the 14 day period, combined with monitoring of symptoms, as being a valid one for quarantine/isolation length, and also that testing at its end is not required. Plus that where tests have been done and gained post quarantine positive results that these are not an actual guide to infectiousness.

I remember when Prince Charles developed the illness and later Boris, both said after 7 days they did not need to isolate. Of course ongoing symptoms keep some people unwell much longer but not infectious.

I still think that a negative test is required after quarantine from overseas in case that person experienced an extended incubation. It makes no sense after paying for their stay to not test.

Gyms just need to be managed. Like everything else. In other places they haven’t been seen as risk places to create a hot spot.