General Discussion/Q&A on Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[RooFlyer]

In Melbourne the police have made it very clear that if there are more than 20 people, the organisers will be fined. The police have conceded, however, that it would be impractical to enforce the CMO's directive on everyone attending.

Translation: 'Wink, wink, we are not going to try to enforce it'. I wonder if the police there appreciate that its not so much a fund-raising opportunity, as a disease spreading one?

Maybe 1,000 people should each organise a protest for 50 each at the footy and have a whip-round to pay the fines.

 

[RooFlyer]

Just in:

"20 members of the Back o'Melbourne Footy Club has said that they will stage a drink-in tomorrow, followed by a drive to Spring Street to protest against serious matters. Vic Police have cautioned them not to drink and drive, but if they do, they will fine the organisers."

 

[p--and--t]

I see lots of studies being quoted here and in the media (largely misquoted)?

I thought this was an interesting quote.

 

[RooFlyer]

I thought this was an interesting quote.

How do we know sh's been quoted correctly?

 

[drron]

She has been quoted correctly.
It has been something that has slowly been getting worse.I did a research year in 1974 with a boss who was brilliant but just a little intolerant of fools.He told me who to believe in in the field I chose and whose work was a fraud.Indeed we had a UK expert visit the respiratory lab who was on his second list.The boss went round the day before making sure that all our work was under lock and key.

 

[p--and--t]

I wonder what our grand kids will think when there is a review many years hence into the origins of, actions taken, investigations and reports, and contemplated cures, remedies etc for the covid pandemic and whether they will be shaking their heads at what they read/find.

 

[drron]

Well in the 1920s and 30s doctors used to recommend asthma cigarettes.Some brands had a magic ingredient-marijuan_.Though the common ingredient was a mixture of herbs containing atropine-we still use derivatives of that drug though mainly created in the lab.

1800-1985: Asthma Cigarettes

Elliot's Asthma Cigarettes* So as you probably know by now by hanging out on this blog I had pretty bad asthma as a kid. When I was 1...

hardluckasthma.blogspot.com

https://www.australianpharmacist.com.au/the-original-puffer-2/?doing_wp_cron=1591574226.9525740146636962890625

Though that Australian report contains an error.The first modern inhaler wasn't using salbutamol (Ventolin) it was metaproperenol (alupent).However fraudulent marketing by the major British drug company convinced the profession to switch to Ventolin.I have tried to avoid their products to this day.

 

[p--and--t]

Interesting times coming up at BA with the reduction in demand due to covid restrictions etc

British Airways Threatens To Lay Off All 4,300 Pilots If Union Won’t Agree To Concessions

Is BA going to lay off their entire pilot workforce?

loyaltylobby.com

 

[p--and--t]

Seems SQ much vaunted book a cook has gone by the way of a service enhancement especially on shorter flights - the brown paper bag.

Singapore Airlines “Enhances” & “Simplifies” On-Board Services

Singapore Airlines is “enhancing” is on-board service in all classes of service.

loyaltylobby.com

 

[drron]

And enhancements for LH and TK.

Details Of Lufthansa's Updated Onboard Service

Flying Lufthansa this summer? Here's how you can expect service to be modified due to coronvirus. Not that much is changing.

onemileatatime.com

Turkish Airlines' Extreme Catering Downgrades

Turkish Airlines has long been known for offering incredible food in business class. Expect this to change significantly.

onemileatatime.com

And airbus getting irritated.

Airbus Threatens To Sue Airlines Over Aircraft Deliveries

In a rare public spat, Airbus is threatening to sue airlines that don't take delivery of new aircraft in light of current circumstances.

onemileatatime.com

 

[p--and--t]

Yet another experiment to come up with a solution to manage covid

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

 

[Pushka]

Yet another experiment to come up with a solution to manage covid

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

Worked for small pox.

 

[drron]

Yet another experiment to come up with a solution to manage covid

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

There are also the monoclonal antibodies that I have referenced before and around the world up to 100 companies working on this.No guarantee of success but antibody therapy has already worked with RSV in children and Ebola.

Coronavirus Antibody Therapies Raise Hopes--and Skepticism

Some experts caution we should temper our expectations about the much-touted approach

www.scientificamerican.com

There has been at least one such antibody produced which neutralises the Covid 19 in vitro.

A human monoclonal antibody blocking SARS-CoV-2 infection - Nature Communications

Vaccines and targeted therapeutics for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) are currently lacking. Here, the authors report a human monoclonal antibody capable of neutralizing both authentic SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 by targeting a common epitope.

www.nature.com

 

[DC3]

And now 112,000-plus COVID deaths in the USA, so far.

At least 20 states in the USA showing a rise in the rate of COVID deaths.

 

[JohnM]

What's happened to all the Australian 'world first' 'breakthroughs' that were going to have this sucker licked in no time?...

 

[Flashback]

What's happened to all the Australian 'world first' 'breakthroughs' that were going to have this sucker licked in no time?...

They all travelled over to NZ to do their work

 

[Pushka]

What's happened to all the Australian 'world first' 'breakthroughs' that were going to have this sucker licked in no time?...

That was just the media headline. Read the story and the scientists all said it was a first step of many, assuming each step was successful.

 

[blackcat20]

There’s a vaccine trial happening in the building I work in

 

[JohnM]

That was just the media headline. Read the story and the scientists all said it was a first step of many, assuming each step was successful.

It was a take the p* comment. I'm missing my daily dose of hyperbole of how Australian researchers are seemingly the only ones in the world getting on top of this.

But, despite that and what you said, the researchers behind the 'world first' 'breakthroughs' invariably don't exactly fall over themselves to emphasise the extreme limitations of what they are doing.

 

[Pushka]

There’s a vaccine trial happening in the building I work in

Hopefully just looking for antibody production from a non live sample....