Grammar Discussions

[Warks]

Some reporting on that bizarre case:

It emerged earlier today that the Tromps may have been prepared to go as far as feeling the country — but changed their minds at the last minute given they could be traced via their passports.

Missing Tromp couple: Is the Tromp family suffering from shared psychotic disorder folie à deux?

 

[JohnK]

some would say that people who look to correct poor grammar and spelling need to get over it. (contributors to this thread excluded)

AFF is generally good.

Reading comments on stories on Ninemsn and Sydney Morning Herald and what I read looks like English but I can hardly understand the words/sentences. Very poor.

I would say thry need to learn English before I need to get over it.

 

[Happy Trails]

A while ago now, but I once heard a radio presenter in the UK reference "the scimitar oryx with its rapier-like horns".

 

[coriander]

From the Huff online - I emailed them but haven't elicited a response :shock:

 

[coco50]

AFF is generally good.

Reading comments on stories on Ninemsn and Sydney Morning Herald and what I read looks like English but I can hardly understand the words/sentences. Very poor.

I would say thry need to learn English before I need to get over it.

Here is one from the ABC News 24 website about the FOI challenge to Brandis' diary:

[FONT=&quot]You can imagine a Minister of the Crown would be a busy person. Managing their diary could be an onerous task.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Australian Broadcasting Commission Tuesday 6[SUP]th[/SUP] September 2016[/FONT]

 

[coco50]

From the Huff online - I emailed them but haven't elicited a response :shock:

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Nothing like elicit laughter is there?

 

[JessicaTam]

Nothing like elicit laughter is there?

Now that is just criminal!

 

[Caversham04]

How about "new and improved"? Not sure how something can be both...?

 

[cove]

Come over to Perth for "World Famiss Muffins" down in Canning Vale.

 

[get me outta here]

I think there are a few airline loyalty programs that introduce something new and become unimproved.

How about "new and improved"? Not sure how something can be both...?

 

[Warks]

I think there are a few airline loyalty programs that introduce something new and become unimproved.

I think the word for that is 'enhanced'.

 

[Foreigner]

On ABC New Radio, announcers referred to certain English football matches this weekend as derby as well as darby.

 

[Deleted member]

I year anniversary. Really !!!

 

[andye]

On ABC New Radio, announcers referred to certain English football matches this weekend as derby as well as darby.

If you were following American pronunciation, you could have a Midland "derby" between "Darby" County and Nottingham Forest

 

[Foreigner]

Interesting additions to vocabulary in the Oxford dictionary UK:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...estminster-bubble-gender-fluid-make-time.html

 

[coco50]

How about "new and improved"? Not sure how something can be both...?

What really gets me is the oft quoted:

"new initiative"

Some redundancy here!

 

[prozac]

What really gets me is the oft quoted:

"new initiative"

Some redundancy here!

Jobson Growth...

 

[anat0l]

What really gets me is the oft quoted:

"new initiative"

Some redundancy here!

I think the reason this is done is because people come up with "initiatives" all the time (not necessarily fantastic ones, but nonetheless). The word "new" was supposed to reconfirm, albeit redundantly, to people that whatever "initiative" that was brought up before is not the one they are talking about right now.

Saying something like "current initiative" doesn't quite have the same power, even if it would be grammatically correct and accurate.

 

[coco50]

I think the reason this is done is because people come up with "initiatives" all the time (not necessarily fantastic ones, but nonetheless). The word "new" was supposed to reconfirm, albeit redundantly, to people that whatever "initiative" that was brought up before is not the one they are talking about right now.

Saying something like "current initiative" doesn't quite have the same power, even if it would be grammatically correct and accurate.

The definition of initiative is: an introductory act or step. If this is the case, then usunf "new" with initiative is indeed redundant - as in a "new introductory act or step".

 

[anat0l]

The definition of initiative is: an introductory act or step. If this is the case, then usunf "new" with initiative is indeed redundant - as in a "new introductory act or step".

What if someone is discussing within the context of a number of introductory acts or steps over a period of time?

As well, there are additional definitions for "initiative" which do not necessarily make it outright wrong to say "new initiative":

one's personal, responsible decision.

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Government.
a procedure by which a specified number of voters may propose a statute, constitutional amendment, or ordinance, and compel a popular vote on its adoption. Compare referendum.

the general right or ability to present a new bill or measure, as in a legislature.