Heads up about program changes

[ketsuzei]

Will be interesting to see how many QF loyal members will end up crossing the road to VA as a result of the recent "enhancements".
(...) What I want to see is how many of those who "talk the talk" will actually "walk the walk" to the other side. Time will tell...

Not all of us think so domestically. Many more rivals than just VA.

 

[Newk]

Yes. QF domestic is just tickedy. QFi is problematic. But the QFF program may, to some extent, rely on QFi. Hard for them. Sometimes difficult for us.

 

[boomy]

Not all of us think so domestically. Many more rivals than just VA.

The domestic market is more simple to assess because there are only two major airlines competing head to head on the same customers.
I will also be very interested to see if VA will manage to grab a significant share of the corporate market.

 

[QPProletarian]

So.. one thing I'm not 100% sure, but when connecting eg. BNE-MEL/SYD-DXB-LHR this now only earns 70SC regardless of different flight numbers and connections or not?

 

[MH_fan]

I, for one, will 'walk the walk'. Since the QFF changes were announced, I have made 4 domestic bookings and all of them have been on VA. I don't have any future bookings with QF domestically either. All my international trips for this year have already been sorted and I'm already starting to think about next year. QF does not feature on any of my planned itineraries for 2015. I only have 2 international trips left with QF this year. One's coming up at the end of this month to JFK and the other is a trip to SIN at the end of November and that's been caught up in the aircraft downgrade where I've lost my PE seats.

 

[Sequel]

So.. one thing I'm not 100% sure, but when connecting eg. BNE-MEL/SYD-DXB-LHR this now only earns 70SC regardless of different flight numbers and connections or not?

I would like to know this as well.

 

[Princess Fiona]

I would like to know this as well.

I thought somewhere in the hundreds of pages Red Roo had confirmed earning is still on a sector basis for domestic sectors to international connections?

 

[Robbi]

I would like to know this as well.

Ummm, I got this 70 SC tally last month - ADL-MEL-DXB-LHR in whY (QF9).

 

[Princess Fiona]

Ummm, I got this 70 SC tally last month - ADL-MEL-DXB-LHR in whY (QF9).

Were you not expecting that ?
10 for ADL-MEL and 60 for MEL-LHR

I think Red Roo has said that Domestic sectors will continue to earn separately.

 

[Barks]

Were you not expecting that ?
10 for ADL-MEL and 60 for MEL-LHR

I think Red Roo has said that Domestic sectors will continue to earn separately.

I hope you're right about the domestic sectors. Using the new points earning calculator doesn't really clear it up either.

Also, currently MEL-LHR earns 60 SC's but when the new changes come in, this sector will earn 70 SC's (according to the new calculator).

 

[Robbi]

Were you not expecting that ?
10 for ADL-MEL and 60 for MEL-LHR

I think Red Roo has said that Domestic sectors will continue to earn separately.

Yes I was expecting it. Was just showing there is no downward change vis a vis the comment "now only earns 70 SC".

 

[Princess Fiona]

Yes I was expecting it. Was just showing there is no downward change vis a vis the comment "now only earns 70 SC".

Thanks for clearing that up, I'm a little fuzzy this morning

 

[basso]

So.. one thing I'm not 100% sure, but when connecting eg. BNE-MEL/SYD-DXB-LHR this now only earns 70SC regardless of different flight numbers and connections or not?

The definition of flight in the terms and conditions has not changed, so changing flight numbers will work as it always has

Flight' means one way travel (without a Stopover) on a scheduled air service with a single flight number (even if the travel includes a change of aircraft). If travel includes a change of flight number, each change is a new Flight even if there is no change of aircraft;

 

[ketsuzei]

So.. one thing I'm not 100% sure, but when connecting eg. BNE-MEL/SYD-DXB-LHR this now only earns 70SC regardless of different flight numbers and connections or not?

For the cheapest fare class I think BNE-SYD-DXB-LHR should be 10+25+45 or 10+70, so the same even if you were to have different flight numbers for the SYD-DXB and DXB-LHR legs.

Currently you would be able to pick up an extra 10SCs by changing from QF1 to QF9.

 

[Jean Prouvaire]

What I want to see is how many of those who "talk the talk" will actually "walk the walk" to the other side. Time will tell...

I have quite a few pre-booked flights on Qantas Group and partner airlines over the next year, so it'll take me a while to taper off, but all future domestic bookings will be made on a best-fare-of-the-day basis. For future international bookings I'll still be willing to pay a slight premium for lounge access and ancillary benefits on OneWorld airlines until my QFF membership level drops below Gold.

 

[QPProletarian]

For the cheapest fare class I think BNE-SYD-DXB-LHR should be 10+25+45 or 10+70, so the same even if you were to have different flight numbers for the SYD-DXB and DXB-LHR legs.

Currently you would be able to pick up an extra 10SCs by changing from QF1 to QF9.

Some reason I've been thinking it would be caught by some 'East Coast Australia Zone' to UK or some rubbish. Especially as the calculator does not allow multi city or calculate BNE-LHR...

 

[TonyHancock]

I'm flying to Adelaide in a couple of weeks. Ordinarily with both QF P1* in the bag and three months to go, and enough EY J forward bookings to nail VA Plat, it would have been a no brainer for me, I'd book QF Y for the 2000 points to put towards MASA's next year. Without them the business goes BFOD and VA wins.

I suspect the removal of MASA's is probably the correct business decision but I do hope it has been thought through. It looks as though I'll be putting about $15k through to VA that would have gone to QF over the next three months...unless QF is cheaper. (QF does at least have my international travel booked months ago.)

 

[medhead]

I see the qantas apologists are out in force. They may think a coughpy breakfast at 6 am is worth something. Personally I'd rather keep the $30.

You are being rather generous costing the breakfast at $30, even for QFd. My smoothie and ham and cheese croissant in J SIN - SYD served at 4 in the morning was only matched by the equally underwhelming soup or chicken schnitzel sandwich offered the night before. Assuming passengers are going to use the lounge before hand for a 19:30 departure is just pathetic.
Only airline I know that takes at least half of a 7+ hour overnight flight to serve food made worse by being of take away standard.

1) try the reply with quote button, in future.

2) that wasn't pricing the breakfast. It is the fare difference. Pay $30 less, only difference no breakfast. Agree the coughpy Qantas breakfast is not worth $30 or even $5

 

[JohnK]

Will be interesting to see how many QF loyal members will end up crossing the road to VA as a result of the recent "enhancements".
I see a lot of anger and disappointment coming from QF customers but that's a natural reaction to the recent events. It happened in the past and will most likely happen again in the future. What I want to see is how many of those who "talk the talk" will actually "walk the walk" to the other side. Time will tell...

There will be a few but not too many.

I have most flights booked through to end September except for first 2 weeks in July. Cheapest Qantas airfares were $146 each way BNE-SYD. I was going to book Virgin but held off. Qantas had a sale last week and it included the frst 2 weeks in July for $95 each way. Virgin was $89 each way.

Guess which I booked?

 

[Deleted User]

Guess which I booked?

Tiger...?