Heads up about program changes

[JohnK]

It's going to be twice as hard for those who need to fly to Europe who don't/won't /can't fly via DXB and wish to utilise QF's extensive network via One World to get there.

Qantas listens.

Watch this space!

Apologies I cannot say more.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Qantas listens.

Watch this space!

Apologies I cannot say more.

Yep, now they know we are annoyed about OW earning, they'll reduce from 50% to 25% if past performance is any indicator.

Excuse my cynicism but I won't be holding my breath.

 

[Ric]

Yep, now they know we are annoyed about OW earning, they'll reduce from 50% to 25% if past performance is any indicator.

Excuse my cynicism but I won't be holding my breath.

+ 1
KUL - SYD on MH from 120 sc to 60 sc on business and QF does not even fly that route!! Unbelievable!! And they are the sponsors of MH!

 

[Awesom Andy]

+ 1
KUL - SYD on MH from 120 sc to 60 sc on business and QF does not even fly that route!! Unbelievable!! And they are the sponsors of MH!

Sponsoring their FF program with disgruntled QFF members, perhaps?

 

[JohnK]

Yep, now they know we are annoyed about OW earning, they'll reduce from 50% to 25% if past performance is any indicator.

Haven't Qantas stopped using the word "enhancement"?

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Haven't Qantas stopped using the word "enhancement"?

I believe so, the direct replacement is 'simpler and fairer'. While they leave out the entity to whom it is such, we all know it is for them, not the customer.

 

[defurax]

I believe so, the direct replacement is 'simpler and fairer'. While they leave out the entity to whom it is such, we all know it is for them, not the customer.

They are also in the middle of a "re-balancing" exercise, like getting rid of chauffeur drive in the US...
I also sold all my QF shares yesterday in "re-balancing" my portfolio:mrgreen:

 

[Ric]

Sponsoring their FF program with disgruntled QFF members, perhaps?

That would probably be simpler than trying to stay loyal to QF!

 

[Princess Fiona]

Qantas listens.

Watch this space!

Apologies I cannot say more.

Fingers, toes and everything else crossed that you are right :!:

 

[JohnK]

I believe so, the direct replacement is 'simpler and fairer'. While they leave out the entity to whom it is such, we all know it is for them, not the customer.

Is that different to any other business?

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Is that different to any other business?

It's different to most other 'loyalty' businesses, yes.

 

[Emkay]

Is anyone clear yet on the new Partner SC rates? It seems a strange, inconsistent mix of destination pairs and trip distance. For example, HEL to SIN one way in Business on a partner airline, I take it would earn 80SC as it would fall within the UK/Europe to China/HK/Malaysia/Japan/Singapore category. But that 5761 mile flight would earn 140 SC if that 'destination' category hadn't been listed, because it would fall into the '5001-6500 miles' category. Am I reading the table aright? You first look for a destination pair category that includes your departure and arrival airports, but if there isn't one listed you drop down to the mileage categories? So if I include a 1744 mile LAX-ORD leg on AA within a DONE4 itinerary, and get allocated as usual to the AA 'first' cabin because that flight has no J cabin, will I earn 120 SC based on the 'distance category'? Will it matter if that DONE4 is issued by an ow carrier other than QF?

 

[moa999]

Sounds right. The table is clearly designed to 'encourage' you to use Qantas (or Qantas code share on Emirates) to Europe and not one of the other options.
For intra-US and indeed Europe as Qantas doesn't compete the earning is broadly unchanged (bar some bracket creep in the mileage tiers).

See a page or so back for my simpler table.

 

[Jacques Vert]

See a page or so back for my simpler table.

Simpler and fairer?

 

[JohnK]

It's different to most other 'loyalty' businesses, yes.

Such as IHG and Hilton?

Fingers, toes and everything else crossed that you are right :!:

I hope so too....

 

[Emkay]

See a page or so back for my simpler table.

Thanks moa999, had missed your table. This thread is massive!

 

[sumthinfornuthin]

+ 1
KUL - SYD on MH from 120 sc to 60 sc on business and QF does not even fly that route!! Unbelievable!! And they are the sponsors of MH!

All the more reason to simply accumulate points on 2 loyalty programs,cherry pick and just buy classic type seats with points and give pseudo status the flick IMHO

 

[QF WP]

I am so happy that I don't have to read this thread in its entirety, or the new webpages (that keep changing) or worry about how many SC's my domestic trips will now give me after 1 July 2014. I'm just going to concentrate on re-qualifying VA Platinum and throw the bones to QF.

I will make sure I maximise JASA bookings and use my $1,500 in vouchers that might help me re-qual QF Gold until 28/2/16, but can't see myself re-qualing after that (soft landing to Silver and my QP Lifetime will help until I slowly reach Lifetime Gold).

 

[trippin_the_rift]

I'm curious - does anyone here:-

- Do more than 4 international trips annually
AND

- Have Lifetime Gold with QF
AND

- Is QF Platinum or higher
AND

- Will continue to credit their FF travel and points to Qantas Frequent Flyer?


If EU centric - BA program is far superior to QFF (much higher points/avioz earning on CC than on QFF, 30% cheaper fares, more upgrades, GGL that blows P1 away)
If US centric travel - AA with 90%+ upgrade rates for exec plat combined with LTG for lounge within USA
If middle east centric - Emirates treats their Golds better than QF treats Platinums. Also higher CC earning @ citibank into skywards than QFF.
If Asia centric and doing >100 segments or >120K BIS - CX Diamonds have near 90% op-up rates. Also better earning into ASia miles from aus CC than QFF.
If AU Domestic centric - VA program gives ~100% more points than QFF if you fly on flexible rates or in biz. On some routes VA give more SC after July 1, and award redemptions are significantly cheaper.

Apart from familiarity, fear of change, not knowing of better options and thinking it's too difficult - I'm honestly at a loss at why anyone matching this criteria would continue crediting to QFF...

Did I miss something?

 

[ketsuzei]

Also better earning into ASia miles from aus CC than QFF.

What's the current best option there?