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Tokyo has serious problems, lounge too small couldn't get in last night, queuing for brekkie as we speak!! Locals jumping the queue?

How are the plebs faring?
 
Tokyo has serious problems, lounge too small couldn't get in last night, queuing for brekkie as we speak!! Locals jumping the queue?
Is this the Shinjuku one?

The lounge is smallish but they usually offer to take your room number and will call you when a spot frees up?

Locals jumping a queue is almost unheard of in Japan, no?
 
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I wonder about all the members who stayed at HSW for the Xmas drinks...

I booked a King Yarra Suite at $342 advance purchase and received a King Yarra Suite. In the room was a single free bottle of water and two chocolates, accompanied by a brief note from the GM. :-|

The evening "do" was very well managed with beers and wines flowing freely.
 
Stayed four nights at Sydney Hilton xmas week
on check in no recognition
No upgrade
No welcome letter or gift (unlike Hilton Docklands)
Disappointing,I will be sticking with the Radisson Blu for Sydney
Great Hotel
Larger rooms
Very nice exec lounge.
Nice house bar.
 
I wonder about all the members who stayed at HSW for the Xmas drinks...

Booked King Hilton Guest Room (AP, $156), got King Hilton Executive Room. Same size, higher floor (17), great views back along the Yarra and to the city. I don't know what is normal but IIRC we got 2 x comp water bottles (medium size) and a what appeared to be a handwritten welcome note from the GM. The staff were excellent, and we were very happy with the stay (had to put up with a bloody rowdy bunch in the lounge though)! :p
 
The HHonors T&C's specifically exclude upgrades to "Suites" as a benefit. (Although a Hotel property might do so.)

Once you are already booked into a suite - there's really nowhere to upgrade to! I would have set my MyWay ViP to 1000 HHonours points if booked into a suite at the HSW as it already includes exec. lounge access and breakfast.
 
includes exec. lounge access and breakfast.

I wonder what would happen if you declined the room upgrade? Specifically thinking of my last stay at HWS which I enjoyed immensely, but I got in late and wanted breaky in the main restaurant. I wasn't going to be enjoying the view on the 16th floor nor utilising the lounge as it was closed when I got in. During the week the breakfast offering in the lounge is pretty meagre and I would have preferred a downgrade from the exec floor ... because as a Gold I still get breaky, but not in the lounge, in the restaurant.

The thought occurs though that the status based 'free' breakfast is specified as continental, meaning, presumably, that even if I got breakfast in the restaurant I'd have to pay if I wanted anything warm other than toast??
 
Has anyone got an upgrade when the booking was made through a site other than the Hilton web site?
 
For breakfast in the main restaurant when staying at the HSW, go to the exec lounge and ask for a breakfast voucher for downstairs.

You get the full breakfast.
 
For breakfast in the main restaurant when staying at the HSW, go to the exec lounge and ask for a breakfast voucher for downstairs.

You get the full breakfast.

Ahh. Thanks for the tip. I asked at the front desk and they told me I'd have to pay for breaky downstairs. I thought it may have been one of those discretion things because last time I was at HSW I asked at the front desk and got a voucher with no further issue.
 
never been charged for breakfast downstairs at HSW and never needed a voucher either
 
About 12 months ago, I was charged for the breakfast in the restaurant at HSW but had the charge removed at Reception on check-out. I was informed that the complimentary breakfast is to be taken in the EL and that's what I've done on subsequent stays.

I'll ask for the voucher next time as I prefer the restaurant breakfast.
 
I got in late and wanted breaky in the main restaurant. During the week the breakfast offering in the lounge is pretty meagre and I would have preferred a downgrade from the exec floor ... because as a Gold I still get breaky, but not in the lounge, in the restaurant.

For breakfast in the main restaurant when staying at the HSW, go to the exec lounge and ask for a breakfast voucher for downstairs. You get the full breakfast.

never been charged for breakfast downstairs at HSW and never needed a voucher either

I'm slowly warming to the Hilton chain, but I find the inconsistencies very daunting and frequently, embarrassing. The above quoted exchanges have me baffled. For the record, I love a full buffet breakfast.....and usually pay for it. Since my foray into the Hilton upper tier realm, I find myself very confused as to what to expect from hotel to hotel. Recently, we have stayed at both the Hilton Surfers Paradise and Brisbane. Surfers more than happily allowed my whole family (3A, 2C) access to the executive lounge for both canapes as well as breakfast. We had a three b'room apartment. I was happy with this but breakfast, as a "reward" to their frequent patrons, is somewhat disappointing. When you are hankering for full buffet, continental just does not hit the spot!

With Brisbane, it was originally just myself, my other half and my youngest daughter staying so we had booked the double, double. Upon check-in, we (and another couple checking in at the same time) were advised we had the choice of taking breakfast in the executive lounge or in the restaurant, at our descretion, included as HH members. Well, no contest there, I though happily to myself.

As with teenagers, I'm always the last to know their plans and my son and older daughter appeared mid afternoon demanding to know where they were staying (so much for fast becoming empty-nesters......oh, how my wallet cherishes the thought). I'm no CPA, but a quick glance at my assembled tribe, the number of beds and the size of the room quickly hammered home the concept that we just weren't going to fit, so the "ol' man" had to go cap in hand downstairs to check availability. I quickly checked on my iPhone and found a room was available for $133/nite on the verrry soon-to-be discontinued "December" sale, so I rushed to the desk to organise it. I kept the double, double for the kids and booked the king "guest" room for Lisa and I. The reception staff were somewhat confused as the "sale" no longer appeared on their computer but price matched regardless and immediately offered me an upgrade to the executive floors. Settled. Sleeping for 5........family of 5.

I believe from the HH site, that an elite tier may "guest" one person (spouse only??) into the executive lounge, so being unsure, I went and asked. I was informed that was the case but asked what my situation was. I replied it was supposed to be 2A,1C but my other teenagers had arrived. The lady said politely that as we had two rooms, she would allow us all in. I was impressed at her professionalism as the rate for the exec. pass was $40 per additional person. Our kids don't drink (grog) and only eat small portions so I thought this was a fair and discreet response.

Now for breakfast. Unlike the exec. lounge drinks and canapes, a breakfast for 5 is entirely different. So as not to place the restaurant staff in a difficult situation, I approached the reception desk first, to explain we would all be taking breakfast but I understood some would be a "paid" option. What I didn't know was how many?? To my absolute surprise, the reception staff said there were no problems, complementary breakfast would be extended to my whole family. Wow! Now that was unexpected and very appreciated. We were booked for two nights, so these scenarios were repeated the next day.

So to my concern.........where does that leave us? On one hand, I don't like being a "scab" and I'm more than happy to pay when required......but when is that? I feel uncomfortable in asking what "my" entitlements may be, but on the other hand, I'm not overjoyed to be paying out for what others class as "given benefits". Most of my travel budget is as a single, so I don't particularly feel bad, but I would like to know (if possible) if there is a set expectation, over and above the HH web site description (for example, I can't see the two free bottled waters, newspaper or the card from the GM, listed as HH gold or diamond benefits but most here seem to expect it)? Do we have to smile particularly nicely.......or scrowl particularly nastily..........or just arrive and carry on like we would as if we were expecting to pay and humbly accept any "unwritten" benefit as a perk?

For me, my recent pleasant experiences have over shaddowed my disasters at trying to book the HSW last year (numerous times) and I've now transferred my stays over to Hilton when I can (who knows, one day I might even try HSW again ;)). I will almost certainly achieve gold by BIB and perhaps (outside chance) of hitting diamond by BIB, so hopefully, this DJ/HH foray will work for all parties, but I'm prepared to put my cash toward rewarding Hilton for taking part.

For the record, out of four stays recently, I've recieved the free bottle water once, morning delivered paper four times and a hand written thank-you note from the GM once.
 
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Hilton Sydney
HH Gold
Room booked: King Guest Room on Boxing Day
Room received: King Executive

Gift - apple and a bottle of water.
Advised by reception I could forgo the executive lounge access and have breakfast in Glass instead, but chose the lounge.


We had spent the previous two nights at the Intercontinental in a club Eastern Harbour view room.
Without a doubt the view from the IC lounge is the best! I also enjoy the table service coffee, tea and cold drinks the IC offers.
However, the Hilton's food selection IMO is far superior especially the evening canapes. I also love the location so close to the shops and the modern rooms and separate shower!
 
I'm slowly warming to the Hilton chain, but I find the inconsistencies very daunting and frequently, embarrassing. The above quoted exchanges have me baffled.

Despite how it seems when you are new to HH (and I am) its actually a very consistent chain and the 'guaranteed' benefits are generally honoured across all the hotels. You will see the occasional slip up, and some of those are even repeated in this thread in recent times, generally though, I don't have to push the hotel staff, the expected hhonours elite benefits come easily.

The guaranteed benefits are listed here:

Hilton HHonors® - About HHonors® - Membership Levels

Choose from the menu on the left for Gold/Diamond and a listing of those benefits according to your status will appear.

What the conversation quoted above was really about, was unlisted 'discretionary' benefits that are by no means standard and can vary from stay to stay or hotel to hotel. The written guaranteed benefit for a gold member in relation to breakfast, for instance, is:

"you will receive complimentary Continental breakfast for you and up to one additional registered hotel guest each day of your stay."


Many of us, as you say above, really prefer a full (hot) breakfast. Mostly I seem to manage to get this from Hilton, but its not a listed guaranteed benefit, thus the various chatter on how to achieve these extra niceties which can vary per hotel.

The main reason I love the Hilton chain is that I don't have to think too much before booking. They are so consistent I've found that I can pretty much just believe the blurb on the booking engine and go from there. Other chains require me to do a considerable amount of individual hotel investigation as there are myriad differences and caveats to be aware of.

For the record, out of four stays recently, I've recieved the free bottle water once, morning delivered paper four times and a hand written thank-you note from the GM once.

I've always had my status recognised, but if that doesn't happen in the future I'll ask after those things that are important to me ... like the water and possibly the newspaper. I can't imagine being refused, and if a new staff member makes a mistake then just show them your card and do a pleasant, cheerful, but meaningful DYKWIA :)
 
Hilton Lake Taupo

HH Diamond

booked king relaxation suite received one bedroom king apartment.

given a letter at check-in outline Diamond benefits: free internet, turndown service, local newspaper and continental breakfast. ($12 surcharge for full buffet breakfast)

request a late checkout when the booking was made, as our flight leaves at 6.15pm from Taupo airport. hilton taupo failed to deliver this request, only extended to 12pm which is not a late checkout (more for people whos running late for 11pm standard checkout).

a full review/experience also posted on FlyerTalk Hilton forum.
 
For the record, out of four stays recently, I've recieved the free bottle water once, morning delivered paper four times and a hand written thank-you note from the GM once.



Last stay at HSW no free water in the room when I arrived. Rang reception before going to the lounge... Young lady at the other end of the phone line was horrified and said she'd fix it immediately. 4bottles in the room when I came back to my room. No problems with the next 4 nights. Brisbane Hilton staff have always been great since they employed michael Burke as that hotel's GM. He would often greet guests as they came out of the lift and direct them to reception . Notice he was at HSW when they first opened but last few stays they seem to have a new GM there
 
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Last stay at HSW no free water in the room when I arrived. Rang reception before going to the lounge... Young lady at the other end of the phone line was horrified and said she'd fix it immediately. 4bottles in the room when I came back to my room. No problems with the next 4 nights.

And thats what I like to see. I fully understand that problems and mistakes happen in real life and accept that, its how a service provider recovers from these things that really makes a statement.

Brisbane Hilton staff have always been great since they employed michael Burke as that hotel's GM. He would often greet guests as they came out of the lift and direct them to reception . Notice he was at HSW when they first opened but last few stays they seem to have a new GM there

HSW has Brett Christ now - he also seems pretty pro-active and even emailed me after my last stay.

Its amazing the difference a really motivated GM seems to have on a property. You can follow your favourite GM's around as they move and watch the difference they make. I hope these high performance guys get paid well ... they are able to make (or break) the properties they manage.
 
And thats what I like to see. I fully understand that problems and mistakes happen in real life and accept that, its how a service provider recovers from these things that really makes a statement.



HSW has Brett Christ now - he also seems pretty pro-active and even emailed me after my last stay.

Its amazing the difference a really motivated GM seems to have on a property. You can follow your favourite GM's around as they move and watch the difference they make. I hope these high performance guys get paid well ... they are able to make (or break) the properties they manage.




it would be nice if we could somehow let Hilton corp know which GMs are worth abit extra
 
Ahh. Thanks for the tip. I asked at the front desk and they told me I'd have to pay for breaky downstairs. I thought it may have been one of those discretion things because last time I was at HSW I asked at the front desk and got a voucher with no further issue.

Why not just go have breakfast at the main restaurant, quote the room# and be done with it? Never been a problem in my vast experience of 3 stays.
 

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