How to make enemies...! [by weighing carry-on]

[donovan301]

Ultimately the argument for 7kg is total garbage because:

- Other airlines which operate the same aircraft have higher allowances...
Other airlines, even tho same metal and model have differing configurations....including weight loads in overhead storage.
(heavier seats equal lighter capacity overhead bins)
- It's an airline policy / ie: not regulated or government enforced...
Policy based upon restrictions of said storage areas. (i.e Jetsar, cheaper lighter seats, stronger overhead bins suited to high frequency of "carry on only pax"
- Hard cased carry-ons are 5-6kg before you put anything inside...
Sure, if you have a carry-on Pelican case, then Yeah 6 or so kg empty mayby...both my carry-ons equate to 4.2kg dry combined.
- What if you don't check in any bags? You're then 23-64kg under your total weight entitlement...
Agreed, fair call....be nice to get a discount for allowing others to carry more.
- Why isn't total body weight factored in?...
Heard of the Negative effect upon business when Physical Discrimination is Displayed by a company...let alone the legal ramifications
?

Anyways, thats my insight....
Next post is also an insight....and Inside Insight you might say.

 

[donovan301]

For anyone wondering about the sudden arrival of Gateside baggage checks for carry on....

Basically Cabin staff are frustrated with the company and are playing the companys game.

"If you want us to wait for 4 years for our bonus whilst suffering a pay freeze in order to redeem said bonus (whilst the company earns interest on 67 million DOLLARS)" then we will do exactly as the comapny deems that the rules are.

Basically QF Cabin Staff are playing to Rule in order to show the company the cost of their choice in holding the bonuses to RANSOM.
Qantas do this year in and year out when it comes to negotiating staff bonuses and wage improvements.

As of recently you may have noticed at BNE they have "Luggage Test Units at the PE entrance and sometimes at the main public entry upstairs.

QF Management are now putting it on Club/Business and Chairmans lounge staff to POLICE the baggage before the PAX get to the GATE, in order to minimise DELAYS at the Gate by Cabin Crew protesting in the manner of "using the rules" as a tool of ACTION.

Its becoming a nasty internal feud, war, that QANTAS Management are inviting by trying to manipulate one situation in order to relieve another less desirable situation.

Problem is.....Now there are 2 groups of staff Irritated.

Dont take it out on the Staff, they are all trying to do their jobs,

Next time you are waiting at PE for lounge entry and are delayed because the staff are ordered to Bag Check as many as possible before entering the lounge....let alone getting to the gate, Where you'll surely be reCHECKED...

Just remember, This is a Management Directive,

.................................... not a Staff demeanor

 

[trippin_the_rift]

As a staff at an airline, your #1 priority is and always will be passengers.

If you're taking out your internal issues on passengers, this is an indication that your values are not aligned with the role you're employed to be custodian over and is time to move on and find a role which is more suited to your character.

In the airline business, passengers always come first.

 

[Deleted member]

For me it (weight Limits) remains an issue if I’m travelling for an overnight appointment, 7kg isn’t always enough. 10 would be a little better.
I guess if priority baggage actually worked consistently I would not be so bothered with the carryon limits

 

[Justin]

As a staff at an airline, your #1 priority is and always will be passengers.

If you're taking out your internal issues on passengers, this is an indication that your values are not aligned with the role you're employed to be custodian over and is time to move on and find a role which is more suited to your character.

In the airline business, passengers always come first.

Look at it this way.

If you were told that you could take 15kgs of cabin luggage on board the aircraft, but only if 7kgs was in a black bag that was exactly 55 x 35 x 20 cm, 6kgs in a red bag with a blue carry strap that was 50 x 30 x 18cm in size, and then the remaining 2kgs was a ladies handbag that was green in colour with only one zipper on it, i'm sure you would be frustrated at the conditions that have been imposed on you in order to give you that 15kgs of cabin luggage.

Thats the same way Qantas is trying to dictate the bonus to staff. By saying they will get it if they agree to a contract that makes them worse off, meanwhile the managers and people that work at head office get it instantly without having to sign a contract that is bad for them

 

[marki]

British airways LHR to Berlin has no cabin limit. You could bring 20-40 kilo's if you wanted. They don't stop you. (visa-vie my latest experience)

 

[JohnK]

In the airline business, passengers always come first.

Totally agreed but airline staff see passengers as an intrusion in their socialising.

Just like the VA staff member at SYD priority check-in last week making me wait close to a minute with baby in stroller so she can socialise with what appeared to be an off duty staff member who came past.

 

[marki]

Virgin have almost never been able to make me happy as an Passenger / airline interaction. Except once for a relatively cheap upgrade from Melbourne to Perth was offered to me.

 

[fifo]

Did you hear about the rebreather that arrived in Mexico with a drill hole through the head?

Yes! It's actually a friend of mines rebreather. I've dove with him in Chemyuil last trip.
One of my units is identical to his unit. We assume it was drilled due to the potential for drugs to be hidden.
They could have just undone the screws on the bottom side where they drilled.
Truly ridiculous.

 

[Denali]

Yes! It's actually a friend of mines rebreather. I've dove with him in Chemyuil last trip.
One of my units is identical to his unit. We assume it was drilled due to the potential for drugs to be hidden.
They could have just undone the screws on the bottom side where they drilled.
Truly ridiculous.

Taking drugs INTO Mexico sounds redundant.

 

[fifo]

Taking drugs INTO Mexico sounds redundant.

No it was posted from mexico to a us (NJ) based repair agent. It was drilled by us cpb, they left a standard form note.

 

[Denali]

No it was posted from mexico to a us (NJ) based repair agent. It was drilled by us cpb, they left a standard form note.

Ah. I thought it was returning to Mexico. Hope the guy had insurance.

 

[fifo]

Ah. I thought it was returning to Mexico. Hope the guy had insurance.

From what i hear, fedex insurance isnt covering it as its customs issue.
The drill hole isnt so hard to fix (new lid is a 150 bucks or so). The real problem is they levered off and cracked (ruined) the spare battery/computer box.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Sydney to Perth, 26/8/2018, QF581.

QF was 1 hour late boarding. QF decided to weight all hand luggage. No exception over 7 KG - Fair enough.

Business class and VIP FFL no exempted. All luggage over 7 kg was check in. Some pissed off people .Staff took heaps of abuse....

I was 1 kg over, decided not to checkin and bought a $1 greeny bag, boarded and repacked into my hand luggage. Sometimes being agile and thinking laterally is a better option that being frustrated.

Company announcement re the bogus bonus 24/25 Aug 2018 then the above scenario 26 Aug. I don't believe it's a coincidence.

 

[jeza]

As a staff at an airline, your #1 priority is and always will be passengers.

If you're taking out your internal issues on passengers, this is an indication that your values are not aligned with the role you're employed to be custodian over and is time to move on and find a role which is more suited to your character.

In the airline business, passengers always come first.

Who set the policy/limits the staff or management? If the staff are merely enforcing the set policy/limits which as a consequence is adversely affecting the customers experience perhaps the people who set the rules should be the target of your ire?

Unfortunately now days with the way organisations are set-up it is nearly impossible to complain direct to the levels of management where these rules are actually structured & the staff on the ground are the recipients of all the complaints, abuse etc

 

[Deleted member]

Yes! It's actually a friend of mines rebreather. I've dove with him in Chemyuil last trip.
One of my units is identical to his unit. We assume it was drilled due to the potential for drugs to be hidden.
They could have just undone the screws on the bottom side where they drilled.
Truly ridiculous.

What kind of Dove was it?

 

[fifo]

What kind of Dove was it?

dove is the past tense of dive...I didn't 'dived with him'. I dove with him.
But you'd know that, as you are clearly an expert in the English language.

 

[Deleted member]

dove is the past tense of dive...I didn't 'dived with him'. I dove with him.
But you'd know that, as you are clearly an expert in the English language.

Yes you did , “I dived with him” makes perfect sense .
I dive, you dive, we dived , they have dived, we dived.
Yes, I know it has become common usage (thank you America) . I just find it ridiculous.
Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.

 

[nutwood]

I'm fully sympathetic with a push to curb carry on weight. I'd be even happier with a purge on bulk!
My usual total luggage mass is in the 30 - 33 kg area. I shuffle all the weight I can into my checked baggage. Rex love me. I see them get the CC machine out as I come through the door .
Check my bag in for Qantas, board the plane, then struggle to find any space to put my small and humble back pack. I trim back to basic reading material and possibly an outer garment, yet I battle to squeeze in between legions of solid, wheeled cases that really should be in the hold. Seriously people; how much do you need at your immediate disposal? By the time I'm off the plane and at the luggage carousel, I seldom have time to catch up on my missed e.mails before my luggage arrives. Are the few minutes saved worth trundling two substantial cases about?
Mine's checked in and good riddance until I get to the other end and start wondering if the Q Tag needed new batteries.

 

[eastwest101]

Flew Qantas BNE-ADL on Qantas today so a small sample of one but didn't see weighing of hand luggage today.

I still see that they can't do premium boarding properly yet either.

I wonder if the 'conditional bonus' offer from QF is starting to get a "work to rule" response from the work force , remember there is also a dire shortage of B737 pilots at the moment. who also have some discretion in their rostering to not exceed their flight hour limits per licence year. It's a very complex set of arrangements and I won't claim to understand it all, but something else to consider.