How to make enemies...! [by weighing carry-on]

[Tassie]

I am incensed by people exceeding weight limits. Partly because of selfishness in taking more than their fair share of the overhead. But mostly because they think it is fine to put fellow passengers at risk of a permanent head injury or death if their bag falls from the overhead, just so they can save time or cash by not checking in their bags.

 

[GoldCanyon340]

Travelling for a month with just 7kg of hand luggage is so far beyond my comprehension. However, if you can pull it off I consider that a marvel of logistics and planning.

 

[drron]

I am incensed by people exceeding weight limits. Partly because of selfishness in taking more than their fair share of the overhead. But mostly because they think it is fine to put fellow passengers at risk of a permanent head injury or death if their bag falls from the overhead, just so they can save time or cash by not checking in their bags.

Weight doesn't equate to size.7kg of gold would take up far less of the overhead space than 7Kg of paper.It also would be unlikely to fall out of the bin.
*1kg gold bar is 8cm long,4cm wide and 1.8cm deep.

 

[stm1sydney]

I am incensed ... because they think it is fine to put fellow passengers at risk of a permanent head injury or death if their bag falls from the overhead

The 7kg limit is clearly not a safety issue because, for example, Jetstar gives passengers the option to increase their limit from 7kg to 10kg for payment of a small fee. It's clearly a revenue issue.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Weight doesn't equate to size.7kg of gold would take up far less of the overhead space than 7Kg of paper.It also would be unlikely to fall out of the bin.
*1kg gold bar is 8cm long,4cm wide and 1.8cm deep.

This is the part so many people don't get (but I'm sure the airlines get it, which is why they charge cargo on both a weight as well as a cubic dimension basis)).

It's like the old quiz ... what's heavier, 1t of bricks or 1t of feathers. Funny how so many people say 1t of bricks!

 

[TheInsider]

The 7kg limit is clearly not a safety issue because, for example, Jetstar gives passengers the option to increase their limit from 7kg to 10kg for payment of a small fee. It's clearly a revenue issue.

Can you tell me how it's a revenue issue when QF aren't charging people for extra bags at the gate (and the fact they include at least one bag on every fare)?
Please don't state for a fact you know what is going on when you don't have any inside knowledge of the issues.
There are multiple of injuries with cabin crew and also to passengers where items have fallen on them.
There is also the comfort factor where everyone should be able to bring some carry on board with them, not just a select few who decide to take more than they are entitled to.
There is also the issue of On Time Performance (OTP), the amount of delays (minutes) down to people 'stowing hand baggage' is amazing. There are just so many of these delays every day.

Edit:
Also it would be a financial decision, as much as some may think that cabin crew need to toughen up, a workplace injury is just that. As Qantas is a self insurer in most states, Qantas has to pay all medical bills associated with any workplace injury, regardless of how it has occured. So that is a major unneeded expense.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Can you tell me how it's a revenue issue when QF aren't charging people for extra bags at the gate (and the fact they include at least one bag on every fare)?

You need to re-read the post that was made. The comment about it being a revenue issue related to JQ and then the argument was made that it cannot be a safety issue otherwise an airline (any airline) should not be able to charge extra for an offering which presents a safety issue.

Furthermore, someone who brings a house brick on board (about 3.5kg) and drops that from an overhead will likely do more damage to a pax below than a 10kg soft sided bag, so where are the statistics to support a 7kg limit and why can JQ ignore those statistics in order to make extra revenue? The comfort factor you mention has little relevance to weight (see post 463 and 465) and the airlines already address that with max sizes but often don't police it.

I'm not even sure I believe the claims of overwhelming OHS issues being bandied about. Are there statistics covering workplace and pax injuries specifically detailing falling objects from overheads that support these arguments, or is it pure speculation?

 

[coco50]

For work or leisure?

I had to attend a conference in Rhode Island. That part was work. The other three weeks and four days were leisure

 

[coco50]

Why? I think the thing is that everyone is different. I'm guessing someone travelling for a month with 7kg of luggage is a rarity and somewhat unusual. I could travel the US for a month with no hand luggage (single set of clothes that would smell awfully, a few credit cards, a phone/camera, some cash and a passport all in pockets), but why would I want to?

We like the convenience of not needing to check in luggage and being able to walk straight off the aircraft without having to collect luggage. We are very particular with personal habits and do not smell. We are very clever about packing.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

We are very particular with personal habits and do not smell.

Please accept my apology as my post did not intend to imply that. I was suggesting that I would smell if I had just one set of clothes with no luggage at all (which was said as humour)!

 

[JohnK]

My wife and I have travelled to the US for four weeks with carry on luggage not exceeding 7 kg. All it takes is some careful planning.

How? Wearing t-shirts with constant washing?

 

[Matt_01]

.....*1kg gold bar is 8cm long,4cm wide and 1.8cm deep.

@drron it was worth visiting AFF today as I have l learnt something new. My estimation is that next time I am transporting 1kg gold ingots I should be able to fit 2 in each on of my suit trouser pockets.

• Note to self 1: remember to wear braces so pants don’t fall down.
• Note to self 2: forget note to self 1, cannot afford 4kg of gold ingots in the first place.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

@drronMy estimation is that next time I am transporting 1kg gold ingots I should be able to fit 2 in each on of my suit trouser pockets.

2kg is what, roughly about US$85k. Provided you declare it on an international ... no worries!

 

[coco50]

How? Wearing t-shirts with constant washing?

Going to the airport and flying overseas, one should bear in mind that one is in an airconditioned environment, so that one can wear all the warm clothes such as jeans and a jacket, a good shirt, the heaviest shoes that are being taken on the trip. We only travel business or better. Before we leave I check accommodation to see if there is a guest laundry. If not I find out if there are laundromats near where we are staying.
Taking about three shirts and several changes of underwear is sufficient. Some people would need an elephant caravan to cart their luggage around. I am also not burdened by taking golf clubs. I play golf with my son and his father-in-law in LA where they live and I am able to borrow a set of clubs from my son.

 

[JohnK]

Taking about three shirts and several changes of underwear is sufficient. Some people would need an elephant caravan to cart their luggage around. I am also not burdened by taking golf clubs. I play golf with my son and his father-in-law in LA where they live and I am able to borrow a set of clubs from my son.

That works for you and it's good if you are able to stick to it.

I play 5-6 games of golf. I take 3 golf t-shirts and 3 pairs of shorts and both get laundered once. I take 5-6 t-shirts to wear after golf and they get laundered as needed. I take multiple pairs of black socks and white socks and possibly a dozen underwear as I need at least 2 each day. Throw in 2-3 pairs of trousers, 3-4 business shirts, a couple of singlets, 2-3 tins of formula milk, 3-4 packs baby wipes and other odds and sods and I struggle to stay under 15 kilos.

P.S. We use laundry to wash clothes and wife washes some underwear and socks in hotel room.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Maybe we need a thread "How to Travel Light"? The laundry seems to be an important issue and for me, I do also tend to ask about a guest laundry (as opposed to an over priced laundry service). One of the great things with HI and HIX in POM is they both have a complementary guest laundry (not overly advertised) which I rate as a big positive over some of the other hotels (especially as many of the PNG tourist activities have a tendency to dirty clothes).

 

[p--and--t]

Going to the airport and flying overseas, one should bear in mind that one is in an airconditioned environment, so that one can wear all the warm clothes such as jeans and a jacket, a good shirt, the heaviest shoes that are being taken on the trip. We only travel business or better. Before we leave I check accommodation to see if there is a guest laundry. If not I find out if there are laundromats near where we are staying.
Taking about three shirts and several changes of underwear is sufficient. Some people would need an elephant caravan to cart their luggage around. I am also not burdened by taking golf clubs. I play golf with my son and his father-in-law in LA where they live and I am able to borrow a set of clubs from my son.

Maybe we need a thread "How to Travel Light"? The laundry seems to be an important issue and for me, I do also tend to ask about a guest laundry (as opposed to an over priced laundry service). One of the great things with HI and HIX in POM is they both have a complementary guest laundry (not overly advertised) which I rate as a big positive over some of the other hotels (especially as many of the PNG tourist activities have a tendency to dirty clothes).

Lots of tips and tricks for perhaps a different thread.

Always wear the heaviest clothes and shoes on board.

Carry or wear your heavy jackets on board and stow them before getting seated.

Put your heaviest charger pack in your jacket pocket instead of backpack/carry-on. Sometimes the charger pack weighs as much as the laptop.

Layering using extremely lightweight overnight washable thermals from adventure stores is great for really cold places.

On land, google is great for finding self serve laundromats. On the sea Princess Cruise lines have a usable guest laundry tucked away on almost every deck.

Another trick we use is take sets of the older clothes including undies and socks and even sometimes a disposable jacket. In the final legs of the trip ditch the older stuff (often welcome in poorer countries) and either replenish with new where there are bargain opportunities or alternatively use the resultant space/weight for gifts souvenirs or just come home lighter.

 

[stm1sydney]

Have a look at r/onebag (reddit).

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Have a look at r/onebag (reddit).

Page is blocked for me. Have to wait until I'm home.

 

[Flying mermaid]

The last several years my partner and I have usually taken 6 weeks holidays per annum to various parts of the planet, often RTW trips.

Becoming over time seasoned travellers we worked out that a large percentage of what we took with us on earlier never got used or was unnecessary and we are taking less and less each year.

We bought lightweight thermals for cold climates and use layering for the different weather in different parts & seasons of the planet. We plan our trips so we make it to a self-serve launderette or other facility at least weekly or pack items suitable for rinsing in the shower that dry overnight.

For cruises we take light weight formal tuxes for black tie nights and for snow and icy areas lightweight "puffer" jackets & thermals.

Due to the nature of my work I need to take a laptop with me on holidays and my partner takes the beloved camera gear.

Our most recent trip was a 2 week safari in Kenya and a couple weeks in Europe and a couple weeks in the USA.

We were in J all the way but our luggage was:

1 x 6.5kg carry-on
1 x 6kg carry-on
1 x 16.5kg luggage
1 x 20kg luggage

Sorry, I fail to comprehend why people really need to take so much "stuff" with them (parents of infants and carriers of medical equipment excepted)

EDIT: BTW There is stuff I won't be taking next year because I still took items that weren't used and unnecessary - just in case.

for our most recent trip to Africa (for a month in quite different climates); (F there and back so we had around 100kg of checkin luggage available), we had

1 x 12.5 kg carry on (camera gear)
1x 6 kg carry on

1 x 7.5 kg checked luggage
1 x 7 kg checked luggage