Jetstar Delays/Cancellations

Awesome Andy, fair point, but this is a delay or cancellations thread so prospective travellers may wish to see any adverse flight cancellation 'patterns' and this is one of them, unfortunately.

Not everyone is as savvy as you are: I expect that you would automatically look up information such future days' operations (the Melbourne Airport website allows one to do this) and ascertain if a future flight was being shown as 'cancelled.' Many would not know (or not care) to do this.

What I may do is not post that MEL - PER - MEL information on its own, but only when I can combine it with a 'random' delay or cancellation.
 
Awesome Andy, fair point, but this is a delay or cancellations thread so prospective travellers may wish to see any adverse flight cancellation 'patterns' and this is one of them, unfortunately.

Not everyone is as savvy as you are: I expect that you would automatically look up information such future days' operations (the Melbourne Airport website allows one to do this) and ascertain if a future flight was being shown as 'cancelled.' Many would not know (or not care) to do this.

What I may do is not post that MEL - PER - MEL information on its own, but only when I can combine it with a 'random' delay or cancellation.
Apologies, should have added a smiley to my last post, and it's more of a reflection that it gets cancelled more often than it is in the air. Please do keep up with the excellent work you're doing, it's tremendously difficult to make such regular updates and while not many might be posting in this thread, I'm sure it's highly appreciated by a lot of people.
 
Due to the storms in SYD on Wednesday 9 DXecember that hit at about 2000 hours, many flights were (or are) in a holding pattern. JQ522, the 1940 hours MEL to SYD took off at 2026 but is only likely to arrive in SYD at about 2215, 70 minutes late.

JQ988, the transcontinental 2015 hours SYD to PER took off at 2146 and should be in the WA capital at 2304 hours, 49 minutes late. JQ824, the 2025 hours SYD to BNE took off at 2158 and should arrive at 2157, 62 minutes late. Plane is VH-VFO, the usual A320.

JQ529, the 2145 hours SYD to MEL must have received a dispensation to depart after curfew as it did so at 2319 hours, arriving at 0035 on Thursday 10 December, 75 minutes late.
 
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JQ607, the 1525 Thursday 10 December SYD to AVV took off at 1704 and operated by A320 VH-VQE should pull in to the gate at 1821, 81 minutes tardy. JQ608, the retrun flight is expected to be 80 minutes late departing at 1855 and arriving SYD at 2020 tonight, while northbound JQ610, the 2030 hours evening flight from AVV is expected to be 40 minutes late leaving due to southbound JQ609 not departing from SYD until an expected 1905 - still 50 minutes or so away - instead of 1825.

JQ770 from SYD to ADL is suggested as departing an hour late at 2100 this evening, and arriving equally late.

JQ516, the 1615 from MEL to SYD took off at 1722 in the shape of A321 VH-VWU and has just emerged from a holding pattern above Gunning. NSW with arrival likely at about 1845 hours, 65 minutes late.
 
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JQ518, the 1805 hours from MEL to SYD has been delayed to depart at 1920 - a minute ago if it did. JQ778, the 1825 from MEL to ADL will not depart until 2045 on 10 December.

Southbound, JQ519 (VH-VFQ), the 1620 hours from SYD to MEL took off at 1828 and should be in MEL at 1940, 105 minutes behind time.

The day wasrelatively benign for flying as far as I can observe (although after I wrote that, a storm came to BNE at 2000 hours AEDT!) so one shudders to consider what delays JQ will incur in a week when pre-Christmas travellers really take to all modes of transport. The poor new MEL terminal (T4) cannot be helping.

UPDATE: JQ827, the 1940 hours BNE to SYD due in SYD at 2215 hours has just been cancelled as at 2100 hours AEDT, doubtless due to the aforementioned BNE storms and consequent late arrivals.

JQ820, the 1840 hours from SYD to BNE took off at 1958 tonight and should be 85 minutes late with a 2035 hours arrival. A320 VH-VFK is doing the honours. JQ567, the 2050 hours BNE to MEL is expected to depart an hour late.
 
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JQ524 (A320 VH-VWU) that normally departs MEL for SYD at 2045 did not take off until 2154 hours on Thursday 10 December and may breach curfew, presumably with 'the delegate's' permission, as arrival seems to be at about 2305 tonight.

UPDATE: A fast trip northwards, so it is about to land at 2250 hours.
 
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VH-VGA on JQ472, the 0615 MEL to NTL has just overflown SYD and is therefore about 45 minutes late with predicted arrival being 0830 not 0745. JQ475, the 0815 back to MEL will be similarly late departing.

JQ503, the 0835 hours arrival in MEL ex SYD is not forecast to arrive until 0916, 41 minutes late. JQ502, the 0730 hours to SYD has been altered to depart at 0900 hours. JQ560, the 0730 from MEL to BNE has changed to depart at a suggested 0819 hours. JQ962, the 1015 MEL - PER has been cancelled, a 'newbie' cancellation on this important route as two other flights were being regularly given the gong, while today JQ512 the 1250 hours early afternoon flight to SYD ex MEL is also not running.

Neither is JQ976, the 1600 hours MEL to PER so once again albeit slightly different with one flight time we have two JQ cancellations on the most heavily patronised run to PER ex Australia's east coast.

JQ792 the 0800 MEL to MCY is expected to depart at 0845 hours.

UPDATE: BNE-bound JQ560 from MEL did not take off until 0856 and hence is an expected 66 minutes late with VH-VWY the plane.

The late departures of early morning flights from the crowded, sub optimal 'new' MEL T4 make it difficult for these JQ rotations to be on time for much of the rest of the day, although sometimes they may have longer turnarounds than strictly required which aids in picking up a bit of time.

JQ705, the 0830 from MEL to HBA is about an hour late with VH-VQZ the aircraft.
 
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Melburnian1, do you have any knowledge as to why Jetstar is cancelling so many (currently all) of their PER flights? Is it lack of aircraft, staffing problems, low bookings or what? And why PER? Sometimes JQ flight times fit well with our travel requirements, their prices can also be quite competitive and we find the seats acceptably comfortable. But that is all irrelevant if the flights don't actually run.

Thanks again for your excellent work.
 
sinophile888, no I do not, but there are three most likely possible causes that you have hit on the head: (a) lack of bookings (b) an aircraft having gone unserviceable (c) lack of either sufficient flight or cabin crew.

Of course there is also the 'X factor' with something else.

Unfortunately for JQ they are now less reliable (by that I mean 'more likely to cancel a flight') than any of the other three mainline domestic airlines on the MEL - PER run, and less punctual (and by a wide margin) than the other three on our busiest domestic air route and in the top five most well patronised in the world, MEL - SYD.

Just why they are cancelling MEL - PER flights but leaving SYD - PER unscathed is beyond me, although since MEL - PER carries more passengers than SYD - PER and would have had more individual flights, it may be that it is easier for JQ to shunt any passengers who booked on these flights onto its stablemate QF's offerings and save a lot of money by not operating return trips to PER.

Mining related fly-in, fly-out bookings to and from PER must have dropped along with the closure or temporary mothballing, or staff reductions at iron ore mines but I would have though most of these 'business but 'HI-Vis vest equipped' employees would use QF, and to a lesser extent VA.

If suburban or country rail, tram or bus operators consistently cancelled the same trips and effectively reduced their schedules by at least 25 per cent, there would be community outrage, emails and letters to parliamentarians, media articles and the like.

When airlines cancel flights in a pattern like this, there is relative silence (although since not many who look at AFF seem to travel on JQ or TT), the lack of input is understandable.

If you do find out the 'reason', sinophile888, please inform us all as I for one would like to know.

One 'cost' to travellers like you is that with fewer flights across the four airlines between MEL - PER - MEL, in theory it is easier for fares to rise, provided of course that the airlines believe that they can still operate at an acceptable yield should demand decrease even more. Some market segments such as leisure travellers can be discretionary and hence have a degree of price (fare) sensitivity.

PER is a wonderful place with for instance plants that will not grow well elsewhere in Australia (unique) but it is also allegedly the most geographically isolated urban agglomeration on earth, so many of you Perthites and general Sandgropers must feel a need if you can afford the fare and time to visit the 'eastern states.'

Why don't you consider contacting a journalist at 'The West Australian' to ask some questions of JQ? It's about time this company was held to account as you and others are suffering from fewer choices in travel, and on top of that the expensive leisure alternative of 'The Indian Pacific' train is running (or perhaps about to run) less frequently to and from Perth. I mention that as an aside because it is yet another example of the 'transport isolation' of the West, our best performing (historically) Australian state in terms of export revenues for Australia.

UPDATE: JQ502 to which I referred in a previous post as likely to depart MEL 90 minutes late with VH-VGH is now an expected two hours late (1055) into SYD. This shows how in MEL these anticipated delays can build. Inevitably other flights will now be late all day.
 
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Jetstar appear to be cancelling a number of flights today and blaming the weather. I can't work out why though?
JQ609 SYD to AVV has been cancelled as has a friends SYD-OOL

Any ideas, weather channel looks relatively clear
 
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Kefci2000, at 1730 AEDT (1630 AEST), there are storms at about Crows Nest, Qld and Glen Innes, NSW and BNE may be affected, but with a quick look I too could not see anything particularly adverse.

There must be another explanation. More and more this is pointing to a staff shortage (either flight or cabin crew) at JQ, as there is nothing I can see on the Internet to indicate that it has large numbers of aircraft inoperable due to unplanned maintenance.

Domestic air travel is not booming but according to the Bureau of Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Economics monthly figures, but it differs according to routes, as some like MEL - SYD continue to power ahead while a few of the intra Queensland routes (and probably intra WA) have dropped in patronage, while the CBR routes are also mostly not doing well and failing to increase at all let alone matching population growth which nationwide is about 1.4 per cent per annum at present (although it has been higher in states such as Victoria, and lowest - as usual - in Tassie).

The means that we also cannot rule out insufficient bookings as a cause - but the difficulty for airlines is that the bookings have to be low both ways, otherwise they end up with passengers who (in JQ's case) cannot be accommodated on QF flights with spare seats. Then we have other complications such as QF flying infrequently between SYD and OOL (and until recently, not flying at all), or flying with smaller aircraft than JQ (such as the QF B717s used MEL - HBA - MEL while JQ uses larger Airbuses). If a JQ flight with say 150 passengers one way but only 40 the other is cancelled, the former can mean a big problem if QF planes only have 115 seats and are already 80 per cent full before any JQ 'refugees' are potentially added to the flight manifest.
 
They said they would refund my fare, but told a friend they would not as it was a weather related cancellation. My ticket was one way and his return with accomodation linked, so I am sure this was the reason.
It sucks and I have told him to make a formal complaint.

Thank goodness I found a points booking on QF
 
Kefci2000, if your friend's complaint is not resolved, then complain to the Airline Customer (sic) Advocate. It is best to write a letter - not to send just an email. Contact details are on all the four major airline websites.

JQ607, the 1525 from SYD to AVV on Friday 11 December took off at 1800 hours and should arrive at 1919, 139 minutes late. A320 VH-VQR is the plane.

JQ514, the 1515 MEL - SYD took off at 1812 and is also due at its destination at 1919 - this one is 159 minutes late with VH-VWZ, an A321 operating the flight.

JQ495, the 1600 hours from OOL to NTL will be an expected 95 minutes late when it most likely arrives at 1940 tonight in the shape of VH-VGQ.
 
Thanks for this

I got on a 4.15pm which was about 30 minutes late and landed at 6.10pm
 
JQ205, the 1640 Saturday afternoon flight from SYD to AKL on 12 December has been cancelled, although originally it was shown departing at a very late 2155 hours tonight.

JQ27, the 1510 hours from SYD to HKT took off at 1604 and is suggested as 42 minutes late, arriving at 2102 (0102 Sunday 13 AEDT).
 
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JQ3 on Saturday 12 December departed SYD at 1947 hours instead of the timetabled 1755, so arrival in HNL was at 0749, 84 minutes behind time. The returning JQ4 departed 63 minutes late at 0918 HNL time but is forecast to lose a bit more time en route with this afternoon's (Sunday 13) arrival at 1650 rather than 1515. This aircraft will immediately turn around and operate JQ3 on Sunday afternoon, the 1755 departure, so it is a case of 'all hands on deck' to achieve a 65 minute 'in and out' procedure.

Efficient or increased aircraft utilisation has much to commend it from the point of view of keeping airline operators sustainable - and let's not forget it was not that long ago that the QF group was incurring huge losses, even if some was related to non-cash items such as depreciation - but it can lead to delays for passengers if no spare plane is available in the case of another flight running late.

JQ30 from BKK to MEL will arrive at 1212 on Sunday 13 instead of 1030 - aircraft is VH-VKB, a B788.

JQ212, the 0940 hours arrival in MEL from AKL has been cancelled as has the return JQ213, the 1250 hours departure.
 
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JQ103 on 13 December from TSV to BNE did not push back until 1258 despite a scheduled departure of 1045, so VH-VQG is an anticipated hour and 53 minutes into BNE at 1428 today.

JQ37 (1725 hours SYD to DPS) has been cancelled on 13 December. What happens to those booked?
 
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This article is mainly about problems QF435 on Sunday 13 December 2015 encountered prior to takeoff from SYD for MEL (which led to the flight's cancellation) but at the bottom it mentions the Friday 11 December JQ127 from ADL to DPS that apparently had to turn back to ADL for repairs:

Nocookies | The Australian
 
JQ977, the 0825 from PER to MEL is again cancelled while due to a half hour forecast late arrival from MEL on Monday 14 December, JQ971 is expected to depart from PER for MEL at 1225 not 1155.
 
On Monday 14 December JQ942 (1610 hours MEL to CNS) has been delayed to depart at 1935. JQ715 from MEL to HBA is delayed from 1945 to 2115 in its departure. The latter may be due to JQ831, the 1610 hours arrival from PPP (not a flight that runs every day) running almost three hours late at 1845 but that is a long gap until 2115).

JQ447 and JQ441 from OOL to MEL have both been cancelled: these are the 1905 and 2035 evening arrivals, but in the middle JQ445 and JQ443 are both still running, with the second 25 minutes late. This is an enormous number of flights from OOL to MEL but one assumes that JQ is busy carrying families with schoolchildren who have broken up for the year, or 17/18 year old school leavers who have had their 10 days of fun (some may call it 'mayhem' in Surfers).

JQ171, the 1350 hours MEL - CHC did not take off until 1658 on 15 December.
 
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