Lack of curtains separating Business and Economy on 737

[p--and--t]

I didn't realise that there are air marshals continuing to operate on domestic flights within Australia (or ever did, for that matter).

..and that's they way they would prefer it

 

[jakeseven7]

Totally unacceptable in a covid environment

That rope was FILTHY as well

 

[AIRwin]

Just witnessed passenger 4C approaching the Business class lavatory before the flight attendant turned him away even though she had let another passenger from Economy pass through during the Business class meal service when the trolley was at row 3... Consistently inconsistent?

 

[Quickstatus]

Just witnessed passenger 4C

Excellent. I’m sure It won’t increase Covid risk in J

 

[DC3]

Just witnessed passenger 4C approaching the Business class lavatory before the flight attendant turned him away ….

The Walk of Shame.

 

[DC3]

I didn't realise that there are air marshals continuing to operate on domestic flights within Australia (or ever did, for that matter).

Probably for only the past 20 years

 

[kangarooflyer88]

As someone now who is flying at the nose of the plane due to COVID, I will say that I find it absolutely disgusting that people would self upgrade to J on flights. In particular, I remember a few months ago I was flying J on Virgin down to MEL and saw someone occupy my J seat in 1A. I showed them my boarding pass and said 1A, and they quickly moved to the back of the (air)bus. At a minimum they should have a curtain but ideally they should follow the example of pilots and have a security door to really keep those Y passengers out! That's at least one thing Seinfeld got right about travel (that and the idea that a rental car reservation means the car needs to be held):

-RooFlyer88

 

[AFF Editor]

I noticed on a Qantas MEL-DRW flight last week that not a single Economy passenger tried to use the Business toilet. This is unusual in my experience for a long Qantas 737 flight.

I wonder if it was a result of the very clear announcement made by the CSM at the start of the flight that "“our forward Business Class toilet is for the exclusive use of Business Class passengers”?

I've summarised my thoughts here:

How to Stop Economy Passengers Using the Business Toilet

One of the pet peeves of Business Class passengers is people sneaking in from Economy Class to use the Business Class toilet.

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

 

[FlyingKangaroo]

Give each business class passenger a spray bottle on boarding.

Problem solved.

 

[docjames]

I noticed on a Qantas MEL-DRW flight last week that not a single Economy passenger tried to use the Business toilet. This is unusual in my experience for a long Qantas 737 flight.

I wonder if it was a result of the very clear announcement made by the CSM at the start of the flight that "“our forward Business Class toilet is for the exclusive use of Business Class passengers”?

I've summarised my thoughts here:

How to Stop Economy Passengers Using the Business Toilet

One of the pet peeves of Business Class passengers is people sneaking in from Economy Class to use the Business Class toilet.

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

They make that announcement on every flight now - seems to have a widely variable success rate, as well as widely variable “enforcement”.

I still think the (virgin-style) magnetic rope or similar would be an easy solution without having to reinstall the curtains.

 

[FlyingKangaroo]

I still think the (virgin-style) magnetic rope or similar would be an easy solution without having to reinstall the curtains.

It might cost several dollars to install such a rope.

Therefore fares across the board will need to go up permanently by 10%.

 

[docjames]

It might cost several dollars to install such a rope.

Therefore fares across the board will need to go up permanently by 10%.

Maybe they could install a credit card reader as part of it and pax could pay on board for a premium lavatory experience (pays for the rope)……

 

[ALH]

I had to wait to use the J Loo yesterday for the Y passenger to finish. Meanwhile the CSM chatted to me (about Rwanda). Was handed a nice present as I disembarked. …and no, I did not mention the Y passengers using J toilets

 

[blackcat20]

Meanwhile I watched a J pax head back to the Y loos multiple times on a recent flight...

 

[Beano]

Sorry to come in at this late stage but I have two comments:
1. I recently had six flights in a week, 4 about 3 hrs each including two international, with one in J. The catering on all flights was the same, except the J meals was on a plate and nicely served (and the alcohol was better). That really surprised me on the J flight; in fact disappointed me.
2. I usually fly Y but seated in rows 4 to 6. I have regularly seen Y passengers turned away from J toilets. But I also fancy may chances and never been turned away. I suppose you've got to pick your crew. Be nice to the crew when you board and it sometimes works.

 

[Nukie]

Flying PE always use the J loos. There was curtains both ends on last flight.Too difficult to go right down the back.

 

[Edawg]

I was flying business from ADL to MEL a few years ago, and they divided the cabins with two coat hangers strung together

 

[Beano]

Just a thought, but do people even listen to cabin announcements? All flights I have been on they distinctly say that the front toilets are for J only.

 

[Port Power]

They make that announcement on every flight now - seems to have a widely variable success rate, as well as widely variable “enforcement”.

I still think the (virgin-style) magnetic rope or similar would be an easy solution without having to reinstall the curtains.

I’ve noticed that announcement on QF now as well. As Virgin give the same speech, perhaps Qantas copied it? On my last few QF J flights, I noticed no one from Y came through, so perhaps the new spiel does make a difference.

 

[eastwest101]

Another trick I have seen on the QF E190s recently is to park the J catering cart at the rear of the J cabin for most of the flight and then do J service from there, which for shorter flights is a significant discouragement for Y pax to use the forward toilet but on the longer flights agree that a magnetic rope/curtains and/or vigilant crew seem to be more effective in the long term. Announcements help, but sending the first attempt to the back of the plane is even more effective.