Lack of curtains separating Business and Economy on 737

[Quickstatus]

The blurb with the safety speech does though.

Which blurb. The safety speech is on the TV screen - dont recall it being on there

 

[VPS]

The announcement by the CSM always says there are 2 cabins in the rear for passengers in Y and one in the front for J passengers

 

[Quickstatus]

The announcement by the CSM always says there are 2 cabins in the rear for passengers in Y and one in the front for J passengers

Ok, I listen in next time.

 

[FrustratedQP]

The announcement by the CSM always says there are 2 cabins in the rear for passengers in Y and one in the front for J passengers

Unfortunately not always and even when they do they rarely enforce it.

 

[Pushka]

Which blurb. The safety speech is on the TV screen - dont recall it being on there

The blurb done just after that by the cabin crew.
I’ve never not heard it, given the discussion of this on AFF I’m alert to if.

 

[Quickstatus]

The blurb done just after that by the cabin crew.
I’ve never not heard it, given the discussion of this on AFF I’m alert to if.

Maybe because its irrelevant to me. Once safety blurb is finished I tune out

 

[DC3]

Good Friday SYD-BNE QF 528 " ... there are two toilets in the rear ....., and one at the front only for business class ....". Yes, only was mentioned for business class. I didn't notice any interlopers, but I wasn't up the font.

 

[kermatu]

Pretty sure the announcement about toilets is after takeoff, when the seatbelt sign is switched off and you are able to move around the cabin.

The standard spiel is two at the back for pax in main cabin, one upfront for the business class. Sometimes say 'only'. Sometimes the CSM is silent on one even being up the front.

Wording doesn't matter - very poorly enforced on QF in my experience.

 

[Daver6]

QF71 to Singapore yesterday. I was in row four so had a good view of what was happening. J toilets relatively well policed, but not 100%. Queue for the Y toilets almost stretched half the cabin at times. Was a nightmare for the cabin crew or anyone sitting in the rear 1/3 of the aircraft.

 

[Quickstatus]

QF71 to Singapore yesterday. I was in row four so had a good view of what was happening. J toilets relatively well policed, but not 100%. Queue for the Y toilets almost stretched half the cabin at times. Was a nightmare for the cabin crew or anyone sitting in the rear 1/3 of the aircraft.

That’s why I think J toilets should be cabin agnostic. This can be done by the Cabin crew quietly asking the ones queuing at back of line to use J if no queue there. A bit of flexibility is the name of the game

 

[blackcat20]

Theres also a sign at row 4 that says "business class passengers only beyond this point" ie upfront.

 

[Pushka]

QF71 to Singapore yesterday. I was in row four so had a good view of what was happening. J toilets relatively well policed, but not 100%. Queue for the Y toilets almost stretched half the cabin at times. Was a nightmare for the cabin crew or anyone sitting in the rear 1/3 of the aircraft.

That sounds awful. The cabin crew have to be able to judicially use the J toilets to avoid this. How would someone in the rear actually join the queue?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

That’s why I think J toilets should be cabin agnostic. This can be done by the Cabin crew quietly asking the ones queuing at back of line to use J if no queue there. A bit of flexibility is the name of the game

I'm guessing if we did a poll and asked business class passengers if they agree with the above proposal the support might be fairly low. If we ask economy passengers the same question the results would swing the other way.

 

[Pushka]

I'm guessing if we did a poll and asked business class passengers if they agree with the above proposal the support might be fairly low. If we ask economy passengers the same question the results would swing the other way.

Well yes I agree which means that airlines don’t provide enough basic human facilities for economy passengers. Short haul is fair enough but we are talking a flight of several hours duration. Maybe it’s just not up to J class passengers in such events.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Well yes I agree which means that airlines don’t provide enough basic human facilities for economy passengers. Short haul is fair enough but we are talking a flight of several hours duration. Maybe it’s just not up to J class passengers in such events.

Queuing for the loo isn't restricted to aircraft though. Sporting events (half time), the theatre (half time). It happens. Two toilets for economy on 738s and smaller is pretty standard. And longish flights aren't all that uncommon (US transcons, SIN-India, intra-Asia). The only real difference is the lack of a curtain or other barrier.

 

[Pleb Status]

QF71 to Singapore yesterday. I was in row four so had a good view of what was happening. J toilets relatively well policed, but not 100%. Queue for the Y toilets almost stretched half the cabin at times. Was a nightmare for the cabin crew or anyone sitting in the rear 1/3 of the aircraft.

Toilets were not an issue on my flight from SIN to PER on Monday evening.... but I was flying on SQ in an appropriate widebody aircraft.

Problem solved...

 

[Quickstatus]

Queuing for toilets is not uncommon but you don’t see toilets elsewhere separated according to ability to pay or because The clientele of of a different “class”

 

[pagingjoan]

Queuing for toilets is not uncommon but you don’t see toilets elsewhere separated according to ability to pay or because The clientele of of a different “class”

Actually, you do see exactly that.
Try accessing a special Reserve area at a sporting arena, for example, to avoid longer queues in the non-Reserve area.

 

[Pushka]

Queuing for the loo isn't restricted to aircraft though. Sporting events (half time), the theatre (half time). It happens. Two toilets for economy on 738s and smaller is pretty standard. And longish flights aren't all that uncommon (US transcons, SIN-India, intra-Asia). The only real difference is the lack of a curtain or other barrier.

Of course. But you have no other options to find another loo on a plane. And there’s more risk of illness too.

 

[Quickstatus]

True but the Reserve area toilets are on a completely different location and often difficult to find unless you are in the reserve area

But to have a special reserved one just up the aisle to me is silly - just have FA use a bit of discretion. (But....as if FA don’t have enough power)