Lack of curtains separating Business and Economy on 737

[marki]

I could have a problem with F passengers coming up to use the the forward J lounge on the A380!



But I dont. The toilets are not advertised as exclusive to F or J passengers only. But maybe in the future? However some people need to use the toilet now without delay!

I have had people like that sit next to me using a spare business seat while smelling of let’s say the sewer and leaving wet patches everywhere.

These people require a fast track to a toilet. Why is it always thebforward toilets not the rear toilets is one of life’s mysteries!

 

[durbrain]

Is this Australian Geriatric Flyers? Why the repeated obsession over the horrendously incontinent who are at risk of pissing all over the plane without notice?

I suspect this is like movie piracy. Some ppl have become so used to doing it they rationalise a justification shrouded as indignation. But at the end of the day those who use something they aren’t entitled to are scum thieves.

Pay Y? Stay in your cabin.

 

[Pushka]

Is this Australian Geriatric Flyers? Why the repeated obsession over the horrendously incontinent who are at risk of pissing all over the plane without notice?

I suspect this is like movie piracy. Some ppl have become so used to doing it they rationalise a justification shrouded as indignation. But at the end of the day those who use something they aren’t entitled to are scum thieves.

Pay Y? Stay in your cabin.

The issue is that it isnt stated anywhere that any toilet is exclusive. So isn't an entitlement as such but more of a business practice.

 

[blackcat20]

The issue is that it isnt stated anywhere that any toilet is exclusive. So isn't an entitlement as such but more of a business practice.

But it is; they tell you in the announcement which toilet is for J, and which for Y. You're meant to follow all cabin crew instructions....

 

[durbrain]

The issue is that it isnt stated anywhere that any toilet is exclusive. So isn't an entitlement as such but more of a business practice.

The toilet is in the J cabin. Clearly common sense is too difficult an ask for many if something so obvious needs to be explicitly stated by the airlines.

Next time you fly A380 Emirates Y, why don’t you try using the F shower? After all nothing on the website states it is exclusively for F use. It just happens to be located in the F cabin!

 

[Pushka]

The toilet is in the J cabin. Clearly common sense is too difficult an ask for many if something so obvious needs to be explicitly stated by the airlines.

Next time you fly A380 Emirates Y, why don’t you try using the F shower? After all nothing on the website states it is exclusively for F use. It just happens to be located in the F cabin!

Emirates website does state the shower is an F class advantage. Which is my point. It’s stated.
Common sense means diddly squat.

 

[Pushka]

But it is; they tell you in the announcement which toilet is for J, and which for Y. You're meant to follow all cabin crew instructions....

Sure. Agree. And if cabin crew said on an individual level (eg completely blocked by trolley) it was ok to use the J toilet then no terms and conditions have been broken.

 

[durbrain]

Emirates website does state the shower is an F class advantage. Which is my point. It’s stated.
Common sense means diddly squat.

Sorry I must have missed the part starting it is exclusively for F passengers. Link?

 

[Gold60]

does this mean, by your definition, that if the J toilet is broken, then J the passengers can't use the toilet/s in the scum section ?

The toilet is in the J cabin. Clearly common sense is too difficult an ask for many if something so obvious needs to be explicitly stated by the airlines.

Next time you fly A380 Emirates Y, why don’t you try using the F shower? After all nothing on the website states it is exclusively for F use. It just happens to be located in the F cabin!

 

[durbrain]

does this mean, by your definition, that if the J toilet is broken, then J the passengers can't use the toilet/s in the scum section ?

No, because the Y toilets are in the Y cabin which J passengers have access to.

 

[Gold60]

why can J access the Y toilets ?? i would have thought each to their own, unless there was some kind of operational necessity to do otherwise, under the crew's direction ?

No, because the Y toilets are in the Y cabin which J passengers have access to.

 

[durbrain]

why can J access the Y toilets ?? i would have thought each to their own, unless there was some kind of operational necessity to do otherwise, under the crew's direction ?

Because it's in the Y cabin!

J pays for cabin exclusivity. Y does not. Not sure why this concept is difficult to understand. If a group flies mixed cabin, those in the higher cabins can visit those in the lower but not vice versa.

 

[Gold60]

sounds like a bit of a sh*tty deal to me....

Because it's in the Y cabin!

J pays for cabin exclusivity. Y does not. Not sure why this concept is difficult to understand. If a group flies mixed cabin, those in the higher cabins can visit those in the lower but not vice versa.

 

[durbrain]

sounds like a bit of a sh*tty deal to me....

For the J passengers certainly. The lack of a curtain or rope means uncomfortable proximity to the Y cabin, which from the description of many posters in this thread is full of incontinent passengers. That cabin must reek.

 

[durbrain]

The issue here is clearly psychological.

Nobody complains about Y passengers not being able to use the F toilet on the Qantas A380. Presumably because the cabin separation is clear and distinct.

The only reason why Row 4 scum (and others) feel entitled to use the J cabin on the 737 is because they can see it right in front of them. But contrary to their indignant moans and pseudo-compassionate harping on about incontinence, the J cabin is as exclusive on the 737 as the J/F cabins are on the A380. There's even a damn sign saying business class passengers ONLY past this point. I guess all those Y plebs that claim entitlement to the J toilets because "Qantas do not advertise exclusivity" have discovered teleportation?

J passengers on a 737 pay proportionally as much a premium over Y passengers (if not more) as those on an A380. Accordingly, they are as entitled to an exclusive cabin without a constant stream of passengers who are incontinent, "smell like a sewer" and "leave wet patches everywhere".

 

[eminere]

There's even a damn sign saying business class passengers ONLY past this point. I guess all those Y plebs that claim entitlement to the J toilets because "Qantas do not advertise exclusivity" have discovered teleportation?

I think a lot of people are missing this.

 

[UP4014]

J passengers on a 737 pay proportionally as much a premium over Y passengers (if not more) as those on an A380. Accordingly, they are as entitled to an exclusive cabin without a constant stream of passengers who are incontinent, "smell like a sewer" and "leave wet patches everywhere".

Ah the age of entitlement. The only things you're entitled to is a seat, a seat belt and life jacket.

Perhaps J should be at the back, with the toilets mid cabin, where no one walks past, that would solve the problem.

 

[Gold60]

or we could ban toilets altogether - and make it BYO - you know, bag, funnel, etc ?? Maybe as a concession to private modesty, and public decency, we could have a small curtained off area for PAX to use - ah, as best i recall, the days of flying on a HERC!!!!

Ah the age of entitlement. The only you're entitled to is a seat, a seat belt and life jacket.

Perhaps J should be at the back, with the toilets mid cabin, where no one walks past, that would solve the problem.

 

[durbrain]

Ah the age of entitlement. The only you're entitled to is a seat, a seat belt and life jacket.

Perhaps J should be at the back, with the toilets mid cabin, where no one walks past, that would solve the problem.

Can you read? Only business class passengers beyond this point. The J cabin is clearly an entitlement that J passengers pay for.

As is the meal. The alcohol. The amenity kit. And many other things ppl who choose to pay 4 times the cost of a Y ticket are entitled to.

The only “entitlement” in this thread are the Y freeloaders who feel they can take a dump wherever they please just because “I shouldn’t have to line up like everybody else”.

 

[Pushka]

does this mean, by your definition, that if the J toilet is broken, then J the passengers can't use the toilet/s in the scum section ?

Well it might mean if Y toilets are broken then they have to just grin and bare it.

On the rare times when I am in J, if the Y passengers use the J bathroom when its free and there is a meal service blocking them then its just not a big deal. If they queued to use it then that would be very annoying. I'd never use the J loo if in Y unless I had a real emergency happening. I loathe using any toilets on a plane.

But clearly some J passengers presume that every Y passenger using the forward toilets are arrogant jerks. Whatever, I have more important issues to get angst about.