Excellent, thanks. I'll be cancelling 28D by the end of this month, like most people.The BW World and BW Platinum cards both use the Mastercard rate.
Excellent, thanks. I'll be cancelling 28D by the end of this month, like most people.The BW World and BW Platinum cards both use the Mastercard rate.
Guess Mrs Scarlett and I will also be both cancelling. I have the BW plat as my main os spend card now. (replaced Coles card)
Timing is poor as we go os on 27 Sep. Might have to wear the first months fee, just to keep the card as a back up for this trip.
You're assuming that all retirees have that much income and mine is nowhere near thatFor those retirees (I'm one too), I used to think it was impossible to get a credit card, but what I think is the case is that it is very hard to get one in the first couple of years after you've retired, because you've gone from a regular salary to not yet proving a regular retirement income.
However, I'm now in my third-year post retirement, and with two post-salary tax returns and two years of bank accounts showing regular investment income - and being prepared to share those to get credit cards, and it turned out that roughly 180,000 Aeroplan points have been earned between sign up bonuses and regular earning for two HSBC star alliance cards between Mrs BJReplay and myself.
I did have to agree to reduce some credit limits (e.g. 28 Degrees went from $25,000 to $5000 - because I was never going to use the full limit), so it wasn't just a submit application and get instant approval, but it wasn't impossible either.
My situation is that I have my investments structured so that they pay me a regular monthly income out of the cash management account for the investment into the personal account, so it makes it clear that I'm getting a regular income to make payments to credit cards, so YMMV, but I guess what I'm saying is that if you're retired, but have a retirement income, and can demonstrate it, don't think that you can't apply for new credit.
180,000 Aeroplan points are worth the trouble
I also have a raft of future bookings secured against the card, which can be in jeopardy if the card is cancelled.
As long as you set up the payments from inside the app you don't incur the handling fee. If you choose to BPAY the balance from your bank then yes you incur the fee.So the months I don't use the card I will incur an $8 fee anyway and when I pay this I will also pay a $1.95 handling fee?
Can I pay this card in credit to avoid a monthly handling fee?
That’s exactly what I’ve just done.So the months I don't use the card I will incur an $8 fee anyway and when I pay this I will also pay a $1.95 handling fee?
Can I pay this card in credit to avoid a monthly handling fee?
No, not at all.You're assuming that all retirees have that much income and mine is nowhere near that
Sorry, not true. Most of the international neobanks including Wise and Revolut are regulated in each jurisdication as payment processors. They don't have full banking licences, and their deposits are not protected by the respective government guarantees. I have checked this in a number of jurisdictions for a number of these operators. You can read about the Wise regulation hereThat's incorrect, both wise and revolut have an Australian banking license, operate as a bank in AU jurisdiction, and the money is equally guaranteed as any other bank.
I tend to use Wise for os travel but with the Macquarie moving away from Qantas I will need to look at trying to apply for something else so will try HSBC and BWNo, not at all.
I'm just saying that having been through the process of being offered stupid credit limits from CitiBank when we all got their fee free for life cards back in the day - which I didn't need or want - when I was working, and having not arranged the right credit cards before I stopped working, I thought - based on stories from friends and families - I'd have much more difficulty than I had.
What I think is the case is that the big four banks CBA ANZ NAB and Westpac have automated processes that just say no to retirees - so as a result people think that retirees can't get credit, because most people bank with the big four.
Even when I was working - earning a stupid salary in the last few years - CBA wouldn't offer me a reasonable credit limit once I didn't have a mortgage with them, but other providers would.
Now that I'm not working, and fearing the worst, I've found that HSBC and BankWest (even that BW is owned by CBA) don't have credit decision processes that are entirely automated. They have real humans (who may make mistakes, make be difficult to deal with, may be a PITA), but can review a request, and make a decision.
I'm only one person - old man shouting at clouds - saying that in my limited experience, getting credit without a salary but, I'll admit, with some income, is possible, if you're prepared to talk to people who are not the big four banks.
If you want a CC without foreign currency fees, no holding fees, and a human being who will assess your application, talk to BancWest. Their minimum credit limit is $6,000, which suggests a low minimum income.
If you have little income, then your time is surely worth it to find out whether or not they can save you the money you'd otherwise spend on holding 28 Degrees?
Thanks for this, similar story for me - was dreading having to call during AEST 9-5 from the UK.This has been sitting in my drawer since I moved to the UK in 2010.... time to close it down!
At least it's easy enough to do online via https://servicecentre.latitudefinancial.com.au/manage-account
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If you have little income, then your time is surely worth it to find out whether or not they can save you the money you'd otherwise spend on holding 28 Degrees?
The HSBC Star Alliance card no longer has the 50,000 Aeroplan offer. I believe there is an offer for 20,000 United points around though.You've inspired me to try for the HSBC Card. I've been retired about 5 years and live off drawdowns on my (well performing) SMSF and dividends received, so nothing regular. I'm going to get my accountant to provide a letter and a package of tax returns of the SMSF showing amounts drawn off and value of the fund being maintained.
Can't see any Aeroplan bonus on their web site - hope that's still part of the deal!