MH 777 missing - MH370 media statement

[JohnPhelan]

As I've already pointed out, this incident (whatever happened) has struck fear right across the developed world.

I must not live in "the developed world", in that case.

 

[JohnPhelan]

Just in BKK & saw an interview on BBC World with Neil Hansford from Strategic Aviation Solutions who stated that there were 5 pax booked (I assume he means checked in) who did not travel & queried whether their bags were removed from the flight in accordance with ICAO regulations.

Reported yesterday that there were no-shows and that their bags were indeed removed prior to take-off.

 

[Clivem]

I must not live in "the developed world", in that case.

That has been said of Brisbane ......

(sorry ..... but thought I'd get in before those unruly Mexicans do)

 

[Jack_OC]

I must not live in "the developed world", in that case.

Are you trying to argue that this has not had a huge impact in the developed world, simply because the plane was flying from Malaysia to China? That was the context of the initial comment.

I didn't mean that every person in the developed world is panicking. I was referring to the fact that pretty much every media outlet I've seen in the past few days (whether based in Australia, the US, UK or Ireland) is leading with this story and speculating about it being a terrorist attack. As discussed above, it has prompted the ABC radio phone in today to focus on people's fears about lax security in Australia and overseas. We've also had Interpol use it as an opportunity to call for increased scrutiny of passports worldwide, and an endless stream of "experts" being wheeled out on TV suggesting it might be terrorism and drawing parallels with previous Al Qa'eda attacks. There have also been people on this very thread saying they would not feel comfortable flying with MH or via KUL at the moment. My point was simply that it's plausible that the objective of a terrorist organisation might be precisely to prompt this reaction and the publicity that goes with it.

 

[astrosly]

How about I boarded a QF Dash8 in Moree last Friday, nil security. Show your boarding pass to the baggage handler and find your seat.

Matt

Current regulation in Australia require all passengers to be screened if the aircraft's MTOW is over 20K kg. Dash 8-100/200/300 are below this (though 300 only just). I've been told in the past that Armidale can't take the larger Q400 due to the runway not being the right surface (it is long enough) but that would seem incorrect as lately the council has said that we can get the 70+ seater aircraft if we upgrade the airport facilities, which I assume mean introduce screening mechanisms.

 

[Daver6]

So just a thought here. Perhaps the plane went down over land in a not so densely populated area? Could explain the lack of finding anything at sea. </just a thought>

 

[browski]

Are you trying to argue that this has not had a huge impact in the developed world, simply because the plane was flying from Malaysia to China? That was the context of the initial comment.

I didn't mean that every person in the developed world is panicking. I was referring to the fact that pretty much every media outlet I've seen in the past few days (whether based in Australia, the US, UK or Ireland) is leading with this story and speculating about it being a terrorist attack. As discussed above, it has prompted the ABC radio phone in today to focus on people's fears about lax security in Australia and overseas. We've also had Interpol use it as an opportunity to call for increased scrutiny of passports worldwide, and an endless stream of "experts" being wheeled out on TV suggesting it might be terrorism and drawing parallels with previous Al Qa'eda attacks. There have also been people on this very thread saying they would not feel comfortable flying with MH or via KUL at the moment. My point was simply that it's plausible that the objective of a terrorist organisation might be precisely to prompt this reaction and the publicity that goes with it.

No that is as silly a motive as saying that did it because "they hate our way of life" or "they hate our freedoms".
Motives are typically specific and completely unambiguous - like "the Chinese killed my family, so I killed them".

FWIW I feel the opposite of panic and am looking forward to very cheap J fares on MH.

 

[prozac]

So just a thought here. Perhaps the plane went down over land in a not so densely populated area? Could explain the lack of finding anything at sea. </just a thought>

My thoughts as well. It has as much chance of being correct as the areas of sea search are now increasingly divergent.

 

[markis10]

My thoughts as well. It has as much chance of being correct as the areas of sea search are now increasingly divergent.

Problem with that theory is it would have shown up on primary radar, the 777 is hardly stealthy. Anyone who has been involved in a sea search know how hard it is, you only need whitecaps and it all turns to mush.

 

[drron]

As Medhead has posted it was mainly about the Egypt air coughpit fire.the rest of the post went on to say with the coughpit destroyed then no communication nor ability to take control of plane and possibly went on to autopilot and could be a long way from search area.

Also dismissed the 2 guys on fake passports as either trying to get into Europe illegally or drug mules.Said it was common to have drug mules Thailand to China and that they had a transfer flight so avoided getting a visa so could disappear into China.

It has obviously been deleted from FT and has also disappeared from Forbes where it was initially published.

 

[boomy]

It was a very interesting post to read, any idea why it was deleted?

 

[DrA]

Terrorist group claims attack, but is it a hoax?

I figured this would happen. No public release of information (assuming the authorities have some and aren't releasing it), and you get everyone looking for their 15 seconds of fame.

 

[Warks]

This Twitter feed is insane: https://twitter.com/search?q=#MH370&src=hash
#MH370. Tweets appear faster than you can read them. Most are of no consequence though.

 

[Daver6]

Problem with that theory is it would have shown up on primary radar, the 777 is hardly stealthy. Anyone who has been involved in a sea search know how hard it is, you only need whitecaps and it all turns to mush.

Question out of ignorance, not doubt. Is all land covered by primary radar?

 

[markis10]

Question out of ignorance, not doubt. Is all land covered by primary radar?

All land approaches are (from the sea).

 

[burmans]

Tweets appear faster than you can read them. Most are of no consequence though.

Isn't that what some regard of Twitter in general?

 

[browski]

My thoughts as well. It has as much chance of being correct as the areas of sea search are now increasingly divergent.

As the only verified eye-witness so far MISSING MH370: Man claims possible sighting of airliner - Latest - New Straits Times , if you use Google Maps and follow the direction from Keterah to Bachok, you will see that it did indeed go down in the sea, not over land.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

There is a requirement, doesnt mean other means will be used to let you in once you get here.

perhaps I should rephrase that to there is no 'absolute' requirement for an Australian citizen to enter australia with a valid australian passport.

 

[jlien]

Terrorist group claims attack, but is it a hoax?

I figured this would happen. No public release of information (assuming the authorities have some and aren't releasing it), and you get everyone looking for their 15 seconds of fame.

Seems a bit silly to make a hoax about such a thing, they must not have much of a sense of self preservation.

 

[harvyk]

perhaps I should rephrase that to there is no 'absolute' requirement for an Australian citizen to enter australia with a valid australian passport.

Whilst going OT, they can not deny entry to an AU citizen... That said, there is nothing which says they can't hold you for as long as it takes for them to verify that you are a citizen of this country.