NBN Discussion

[drron]

We don't download movies.25/10 would be fine by us.

 

[dajop]

Just setting up a holiday house on the coast in Victoria, which we recently bought. Been out of the loop with dealing with Australian agencies for sometime, forgotten how frustrating it can be. Seems it will be somewhere between 6-8 weeks to get NBN connected, and we can't do an ADSL connection now as NBN own the infrastructure. Does this sound right, or is it optimistic? So only option for internet access over the next two months is mobile broadband. Luckily us or family not there much in next two months, but was going to offer broadband if we rent the place out, looks like we will delay that.

A bit frustrating how slow things are for new subscribers, wouldn't be so bad if we had existing ADSL connection, could wait then, but no fixed internet is a pain (we have used mobile there but can be patchy at times ...). Aaah, Australia, 2017!

 

[moa999]

and we can't do an ADSL connection now as NBN own the infrastructure. Does this sound right, or is it optimistic?

Once the NBN goes live everything else is cease sale so it sounds right.
Even if you could get ADSL i suspect the timeframe would be 6-8wks, the work involved in rolling out the NBN means there aren't enough NBN techs (or Telstra subcontractors) in many areas.

 

[jb747]

I expect the next issue you'll have is that they'll pick a random date/time for your installation, and require you to be there. Then they won't show up. Multiple times.

 

[drron]

Yes our first date for installation is next Wednesday.
Not holding my breath.But impressed with the way ABB is keeping us in the loop even ringing when they thought we didn't understand something.

 

[Quickstatus]

FTTN usually does not require you to be home as all work is at the node

 

[Buzzard]

Just found out we should be getting FTTN in the second half of next year.
Gee, I can barely hold back the excitement

 

[Quickstatus]

Just found out we should be getting FTTN in the second half of next year.
Gee, I can barely hold back the excitement

If you are close to the node and if you have a lazy few thousands lying around you could apply to extend the fibre to your kerb or house.

Here is advanced NBN node technology operating off a generator:
Jason Byway on Twitter

 

[Buzzard]

If you are close to the node and if you have a lazy few thousands lying around you could apply to extend the fibre to your kerb or house.

Here is advanced NBN node technology operating off a generator:
Jason Byway on Twitter

It won't be happening as our intention is to sell and move.

 

[amaroo]

Called Telstra about my peak hour speeds. I'm on their super fast package and getting around 76mb for 90% of the day .... it dropped to 15mb in peak. Anyway they have tweaked something and I'm now getting >35mb peak speed and one of their agents just called saying they will be making additional adjustments to ensure I get a min of 50mb at all times. Upload is a constant 32mb all day long. FWIW, I'm FTTN

A few weeks later....

The fix appears to have stuck and peak speed increased We're now getting these numbers 24/7

 

[Quickstatus]

It won't be happening as our intention is to sell and move.

Does the list include FTTP when house hunting for the next abode?

 

[whatmeworry]

This poor bloke on reddit.

Purple Premises? FTTP. Yellow Premises? FTTN. The Cursor? MY HOUSE!

Over half of HFC lines in limbo.

NBN Co has revealed its HFC network accounts for the largest number of unserviceable connections of any fixed-line technology in the rollout.

The network builder last night broke down its reported “not yet ready to connect” (formerly known as service class zero and equivalent) premises number for the first time.

Based on the total number of premises cited - 246,942 - the breakdown is accurate to just after June 22 this year.

NBN Co’s numbers show that 132,691 of these unserviceable premises - 53.7 percent - are in the HFC footprint.

NBN Co reveals over half of lines in limbo are HFC

 

[moa999]

Presumably that's infill HFC properties.
Ie. Passed by Telstra Cable, but either never had it installed or were avoided (eg. Battle-axe blocks or MDUs)

 

[Quickstatus]

And maybe somewould be ADSL who did not bother connecting to HFC. Presumably they did not need ther higher speeds of Telstra/Optus HFC or did not want Pay TV

 

[Quickstatus]

Pink is Fixed wireless
Purple is FTTP
Not sure if accurate

 

[whatmeworry]

Just watching Gruen slamming the NBN and its advertising.

On the subject of NBN’s recent brand campaign, Sampson came out swinging, slamming the campaign as “boring” and a “waste of money”.

The ad, which launched earlier this year via BWM Dentsu, features young parents working from home, students playing soccer with a hologram and a rocket being sent into out of space.

“The ad is classic government backed by research. It has all the clichés in it; the voiceover has gender balance, it’s got a mix of ethnic representation, it’s got music, it’s got a device and it’s boring and a waste of money.”

Always the defender of advertising, Howcroft disagreed with Sampson.

“It’s not boring. It’s not brilliant but it isn’t typical government advertising because at least they are spending some money producing something that is trying to have a bigger idea about it,” he said.

Sampson believes the money would be better spent on getting the NBN up and running, rather than on marketing.

“Sometimes it’s useful to spend money on advertising if you need to stimulate demand, but sometimes it’s not so useful when the product is seen as a negative thing,” he said.

“They would be better off taking their money from marketing, and I know they aren’t spending that much, and putting that into the practical implication side. There’s no need to advertise something that’s not working.”


Read more at Gruen: Todd Sampson slams NBN ads as ‘boring’ and ‘waste of money’ - AdNews

Gruen - Series 9 Ep 1 : ABC iview

 

[bad]

My car can do 200 km/h but it seems to be contended back to 60, 100 or rarely 110 km/h..........

Excellent analogy for NBN connections especially those terminating in Nodes

 

[Quickstatus]

All NBN is contended. FTTP included. Do we really think that the single fibre from premises goes all the way to the POI and beyond? All FTTP terminates in nodes as well.

An FTTP optical terminals according to NBNCo can currently serve up to 3000 premises and has 10Gbps (=10000Mbps) backhaul. Contention is necessary for economy of price. Apparently some of these large optical hubs are running backhaul rates of 15% of capacity. So NBNCo will not be upgrading the FTTP backhaul anytime soon.

If all 3000 premises are fully online trying to download, then potentially their download can be maybe 3.33Mbps each. I concede that contention calculation are a lot more complicated that this.

Sure by improving backhaul at FTTP optical terminals, the speeds can be easily improved unlike other technologies. However that's assuming that NBN will do it. Trying to get NBNCo to improve backhaul from certain fibre connected FW towers which is currently running backhaul capacity at 100% is like trying to get blood of out granite with NBNCo saying its the RSP not buying CVC and RSP saying backhaul is at capacity.

 

[moa999]

The network limits on FTTP are more generous than other forms.

But at the moment the major constriction is CVC purchased by your RSP (which comes back to what the NBN charges)

Apart from some FW towers where wireless backhaul does appear to have issues.

 

[bad]

The recent NBN advertisement shows a rocket taking off with NBN satellite onboard what it fails to show is that it does not arrive at its destination but reaches the nearest Node ( )