NBN Discussion

[Quickstatus]

Just checked and we are usually around 50mps with our VSDL. Son's NBN is only about 16mps. When the NBN finally arrives here we may be lucky and have fibre to the building as the apartment building was wired when built. Funnily our connection point is the Realm Hotel next door whereas the adjacent apartment building has one in its basement.

Sounds like your building’s main distribution frame is shared with the hotel. Maybe the 2 buildings were built by the same developer.

 

[love_the_life]

Sounds like your building’s main distribution frame is shared with the hotel. Maybe the 2 buildings were built by the same developer.

Yep, spot on. Doma built all the buildings. They a also have their office here. Out building looks very similar to the hotel and some people don't realise that we are separate.

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

This was alluded to in the early days of this thread and that article has reference but physical connection to premisis will likely be a thing of the past for most of the Oz population within a few years.

5G (even 4G) will see to that.

The NBN as a physical connection (fibre/copper) to the premises will be basically redundant.

considering how tricky it is for the mobile networks to keep decent data speeds while servicing less than 3% of all downloads in Australia, I don't see how it's economically feasible to increase this as dramatically as you believe it will.

8153.0 - Internet Activity, Australia, June 2017

The total volume of data downloaded in the three months ended 30 June 2017 was 3.0 million Terabytes (or 3.0 Exabytes).

This is a 15.8% increase in data downloads when compared with the three months ended 31 December 2016 and a 42.8% increase in the year between June 2016 and June 2017.

Data downloaded via fixed line broadband (2.9 million Terabytes) accounted for 97.2% of all internet downloads in the three months ended 30 June 2017.

 

[Quickstatus]

The limitation with mobile (or over the air) broadband is frequency spectrum.

 

[Buzzard]

Gee I wish some of you would stop posting your download speed, it's like stabbing me in the heart with blunt serrated knife. I'm lucky to get 3Mbps

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

Gee I wish some of you would stop posting your download speed, it's like stabbing me in the heart with blunt serrated knife. I'm lucky to get 3Mbps

A guy at work has been trying to get connected to HFC for 4 months now. His ADSl is around 3Mbs. He's being tortured seeing his neighbours get decent speeds while NBN try to work out how to do their job. Don't hear turnbull bragging about how HFC will be a quick way to upgrade a large number of premises to faster speeds. iirc over half the complex faults are in HFC areas.

 

[Quickstatus]

Yes the HFC is particularly problematic. One issue is some properties do not actually have a HFC lead in cable. These are typically on ADSL because the owners either did not bother to connect to Telstra or optus Cable, or due to some quirk there is no connection available to them even though HFC runs past their house..
Unfortunately they are caught in no mans land. And some have been told they cant get anything so have to go to NBN Satellite.

 

[straitman]

A few here seem to have forgotten the thread title and are winding it back to being a political thread and taking some cheap and not so cheap shots.

Let's get back to the topic and away from the politics.

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[RB]

NBN is not currently available where we are renting and we will be moving within the next 6 months.
Being in a fairly small town we currently have a Off Net adsl2 service that is reasonable speed & stable and iiNet is cheaper than the equivalent Telstra plan.
We have decided we are now at the stage of being able to do away with a home phone.- iiNet say can't have Off Net without paying line rental, can't have naked adsl2.
Any thoughts of viable alternatives with at least 50gb a month?

 

[straitman]

Do you have line of sight to any friends who have a decent connection. There are ways.....

airMAX

I am using the fallback of 2 X $40 per month for 30Gb of 4G at about 150-175 Mbps

Our raw ADSL speeds aren't too bad but there appears to be only minimal bandwidth.

 

[whatmeworry]

Former NBN CEO rejects opinion of paid shrill from Deutsche Telekom.

Former NBN boss Mike Quigley has slammed the Coalition’s copper-based network as a “colossal mistake” after a senior German executive gave a sponsored speech backing the technology.

Deutsche Telekom chief technology officer Bruno Jacobfeuerborn, in Sydney for a conference partly funded by NBN Co, said his company initially thought the Australian Labor Party’s plan to rollout full fibre-to-the-premises (FTTP) was a “great idea” but soon switched to a Coalition-style multi-technology mix because full FTTP was “very ambitious” and inefficient.

Mr Quigley, NBN Co’s first CEO from 2009 to 2013, retorted by saying Germany’s copper-based network was very different to Australia’s.

“The world’s going fibre,” he told The New Daily.

“I can understand why Germany’s using a multi-technology mix approach because it’s an incumbent telco.

Former NBN boss rejects claims that all-fibre was 'too ambitious'

 

[Quickstatus]

NBN is not currently available where we are renting and we will be moving within the next 6 months.
Being in a fairly small town we currently have a Off Net adsl2 service that is reasonable speed & stable and iiNet is cheaper than the equivalent Telstra plan.
We have decided we are now at the stage of being able to do away with a home phone.- iiNet say can't have Off Net without paying line rental, can't have naked adsl2.
Any thoughts of viable alternatives with at least 50gb a month?

Optus mobile Broadband has $70 for 100gb casual or 140gb on contract.

To see if you can get the service either have a optus 4G phone or get a $19 Optus prepaid Huawei E3372 USB stick that comes with 4Gb data to check the availability (from office works).

There are some alternative non NBN fixed wireless providers if you are in their area - see map link:
BIRRR Non-NBN Alternative Fixed Wireless Provider Map map

 

[straitman]

Former NBN CEO rejects opinion of paid shrill from Deutsche Telekom.

Just out of interest why is he the 'Former NBN CEO'? I'm just trying to understand the background.

 

[coriander]

Former NBN CEO rejects opinion of paid shrill from Deutsche Telekom.

I can't judge as I don't know how shrill his voice sounds

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

The NBN may soon tell Australians how fast the maximum speed of their internet is

I don't quite understand the below

With the retail internet providers – such as Optus, Telstra and TPG – being the “interface” to the end consumer, the NBN, as the wholesaler, has always been reluctant to publicly disclose the figures {sync speed}.

My understanding was all the legalese restricted what information could be publicly provided. Possibly on a 1 to 1 basis you could let each individual customer know, but then they should already be able to log into their modem and see what their sync speed is if they are on a copper FTTN or FTTB service. NBN would have definitely not been impressed with an RSP that provided a table of sync speeds achieved by it's customer and made it available to the public and media.

Then this is just such a big fat lie from Morrow

“It comes with mixed feelings – we don’t want to confuse the consumer more than they already are. We want the retail service providers to publish this information, quite frankly.”

The Government has been very particular about minimising the amount of information on sync speeds for FTTN & FTTB as they didn't want it well known just how many customers are unable to get even 25Mbs, with a significant minority unable to get 50Mbs.

I can say that on a weekly basis we are getting faults from customers complaining about why they are not getting the sync speeds they're paying for. Possibly when the coexisting period is over things might improve at the margins.

Certainly RSPs could have better follow up with new copper services to confirm the custmer can get the sync speed they're paying for.

 

[moa999]

Optus already has a tool that will do this in their SQ site.
But it gives a big range of speeds if you are beyond 400m from the node.

Mostly because home wiring in particular can make a massive difference in ultimate sync speeds.

 

[QF WP]

Just out of interest why is he the 'Former NBN CEO'? I'm just trying to understand the background.

Perhaps as Mr Quigley was NBN Co’s first CEO from 2009 to 2013. The incumbent is now Bill Morrow Executive biographies | nbn - Australia's new broadband access network

 

[QF WP]

Not quite sure how to feel when NBN (or its contractors) turned up 2 weeks ago to attach this to the wall at the back of my shop/office a couple of weeks ago. Knew from my IT contractor they had done other streets around us:

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

Optus already has a tool that will do this in their SQ site.
But it gives a big range of speeds if you are beyond 400m from the node.

Mostly because home wiring in particular can make a massive difference in ultimate sync speeds.

Very true. We had a staff member who was only syncing at 12mbs but wnated 25mbs

NBN tech went out and was nice enough to fix the internal wiring issue for them that saw the sync speed jump up to 25Mbs with attainable at 44Mbs.

Certainly pays to get your wiring upgraded if your house is on the older side

 

[cove]

Yes our home has upgraded cables to be ready. We hope NBN take their time because our current internet speed is ok. It isn’t 100 but it is adequate.