NBN Discussion

[drron]

Hasn't Telstra already sold their copper network to the NBN?

 

[amaroo]

After reading this thread I'm starting to understand why the ALP never did a business plan......this thing [-]is[/-] was going to cost way more than the country could ever afford.

 

[pshepvic]

Hasn't Telstra already sold their copper network to the NBN?

No. The current agreement with Telstra means NBN is LEASING the ducts/pits from Telstra for the next 30 years. The only infrastructure being purchased from Telstra are approximately 2.7 million Lead-in Conduits (the pipe from the pit into the premises). As part of this agreement, Telstra will be paid a fee for decommissioning the copper, but NBN has not purchased it.

 

[drsmithy]

Saw this linked off Whirlpool sometime this weekend.

You're wrong, critics tell Turnbull: Australia voted for NBN - Delimiter

 

[whatmeworry]

After reading this thread I'm starting to understand why the ALP never did a business plan......this thing [-]is[/-] was going to cost way more than the country could ever afford.

The inferior Liberal plan will also cost significantly more then they have budgeted for.

 

[drsmithy]

The inferior Liberal plan will also cost significantly more then they have budgeted for.

Which is why they'll just can it after a few politically advantageous regions have been connected, citing "responsible spending cuts", and leave the rest of us at the mercy of monopolies like Telstra (after they've dialled back the regulatory protection, of course).

 

[drron]

But isn't the NBN a monopoly.
Even before the NBN was thought of there were other players than Telstra.Fibre was being rolled out in the late nineties for example Ammcom in Perth and Adelaide.And they have done very well.

 

[whatmeworry]

But isn't the NBN a monopoly.
Even before the NBN was thought of there were other players than Telstra.Fibre was being rolled out in the late nineties for example Ammcom in Perth and Adelaide.And they have done very well.

SYD and MEL are private monopolies and how well are they working out for us all?

 

[drsmithy]

But isn't the NBN a monopoly.

A Government monopoly.

 

[amaroo]

No surprise......the NBN board has decided to throw the towel in.

 

[james4321]

Well you have got what you want - its game on Entire NBN board resigns

 

[drsmithy]

No surprise......the NBN board has decided to throw the towel in.

A victory to chalk up for the "infrastructure Prime Minister" !

 

[lovestotravel]

It's simply a case of the overpaid rats leaving before they are exposed for being total fails in what they were meant to be doing

 

[serfty]

It's simply a case of the overpaid rats leaving before they are exposed for being total fails in what they were meant to be doing

Where is THAT 'Draft' report that the prior government was hanging on to ...

 

[whatmeworry]

Website crowd-funds NBN FOI request

 

[JessicaTam]

Website crowd-funds NBN FOI request

I wonder if the blacked out parts will outweigh that which isn't.

 

[whatmeworry]

Abbott told The Washington Post that his government is ''changing the objective from fibre to every premise in the country to fibre to distribution points.'' From madness to sanity, yes?

Well, not quite. Since the Coalition announced this plan, industry experts have noted that the fibre-to-the-node technology will be slower and less consistent than Labor's fibre-to-the-premises plan. The FTTN's copper lines have a narrower bandwidth, lose signal strength with distance, are less durable and have limited potential for upgrade.
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Yes, Labor's plan is expensive, but it seems a more secure long-term investment. This is why Tim Berners-Lee, credited with inventing the world wide web, calls the NBN ''a wonderful commitment to getting everyone connected''. This is why internet pioneer Vint Cerf admitted to being ''envious'' of the Labor plan, and why the head of the International Telecommunications Union, Hamadoun Toure, said the NBN would make Australia the ''No.1'' world broadband.

Read more: Broadband view out of whack with experts
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So we are going from world's best broadband to sanity?

 

[Sprucegoose]

I wonder if the blacked out parts will outweigh that which isn't.

We will know in about 30 years !!

 

[drron]

No wonder the ALP government didn't want to run the business plan by the Productivity Commission.
Malcolm Turnbull is having a field day in Parliament.
Extended interview with Dr John Cioffi - The Business - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Labor's NBN Costs Taxpayers $31 billion - YouTube
Labor's NBN Rollout in the Northern Territory - YouTube

This is the point I have always worried about-The technology might be world's best but is it affordable.

 

[JessicaTam]

No wonder the ALP government didn't want to run the business plan by the Productivity Commission.
Malcolm Turnbull is having a field day in Parliament.
Extended interview with Dr John Cioffi - The Business - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Labor's NBN Costs Taxpayers $31 billion - YouTube
Labor's NBN Rollout in the Northern Territory - YouTube

This is the point I have always worried about-The technology might be world's best but is it affordable.

I know this is going to stir thing up, but can we afford not to do it? We have to overcome the tyranny of distance somehow.