NBN Discussion

[moa999]

Given it took about 5hrs according to my building manager for installation of an FTTB unit (for 200 apartments) and my stats show I could get 90/35 (am on a 25/5 plan) and even higher with an upgrade from vdsl2 to G.fast, I would say FTTP is overkill -- and would add lots of ugly conduit to the hallways of the apartment building and an NTD and battery to my apartment.

Granted that the cost of rollout/ achievable speed of FTTN may not be as good depending on how far from node and copper quality in some cases.

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Used to pay $30 to Telstra and $30 to TPG for a 40Gb plan that barely reached 9/0.6. Now $55/mth to Belong for 25/5 100Gb and a few $s to Telecube for VOIP

 

[drsmithy]

Given it took about 5hrs according to my building manager for installation of an FTTB unit (for 200 apartments) and my stats show I could get 90/35 (am on a 25/5 plan) and even higher with an upgrade from vdsl2 to G.fast, I would say FTTP is overkill -- and would add lots of ugly conduit to the hallways of the apartment building and an NTD and battery to my apartment.

FTTP is probably overkill when the "premises" are individual apartments. Even ten gigabit distribution within a building is easy with today's technology. Though it would realistically mean that distribution had to be the responsibility of the body corporate.

The same is not remotely true when you're talking about FTTN and detached houses or townhouses.

 

[serfty]

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[zainman]

Just applied for TPG NBN yesterday. Building finally got connected so applied as soon as TPG recognized my address had the NBN available. They have given a time frame of 2-30 days for installation. Anyone know how much time it may really take? Signed up for 100/40 plan. can't wait

 

[moa999]

All depends on how many available installers around. Is this FTTP or FTTB?

 

[zainman]

All depends on how many available installers around. Is this FTTP or FTTB?

I believe it's FTTP (that's the better one right?) and it's a MDU.. so it's an apartment..

 

[moa999]

Yep. That's full Fibre.. How neat is the overall installation?

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Yep. That's full Fibre.. How neat is the overall installation?

I doubt it would be fibre, as NBN aren't doing FTTP in MDU's and never have AFAIK. It would be FTTB most likely, with a copper connection from basement to premise... Unless a developer did fibre pre-cabling but I don't think that's a requirement.

 

[Hvr]

And the latest on the NBN.

The Abbott Coalition government came to power two years ago this week with a promise to change Labor’s fibre to the premises (FTTP) National Broadband Network (NBN) to one using less-expensive fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) technologies, spruiking its network with the three-word slogan: "Fast. Affordable. Sooner."

But with the release in August of the 2016 NBN corporate plan and in the light of overseas developments, it is clear that the Coalition's broadband network will not provide adequate bandwidth, will be no more affordable than Labor's FTTP network and will take almost as long to roll out.

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Seems like a working project has been stuffed up for purely political reasons.

 

[moa999]

I think half the problem is that the original FTTP rollout was never properly specced or planned, missed every objective and was totally over budget so the data just isn't their to compare it with.

I think FTTB and HFC parts of the NBN MTM are good ideas and can be rolled out much more quickly and cheaply. FTTN is the worry - sure it will work for some but others further from the node will be left with the future equivalent of a RIM

 

[TheRealTMA]

And the latest on the NBN.




Seems like a working project has been stuffed up for purely political reasons.

Yes I wanna be known as the infrastructure PM.

 

[drron]

And the latest on the NBN.




Seems like a working project has been stuffed up for purely political reasons.

Though at the 2013 election the NBN was way over budget,way behind in rollout and the finishing date had already been postponed until 2021.Given it's track record it would likely have been more expensive and later than those prediction's by Sen.Conroy.If so that makes nonsense of that Fairfax article.More likely it was written for purely political reasons.

 

[amaroo]

If so that makes nonsense of that Fairfax article.More likely it was written for purely political reasons.

Independent. Always. ... LOL

 

[whatmeworry]

I think half the problem is that the original FTTP rollout was never properly specced or planned, missed every objective and was totally over budget so the data just isn't their to compare it with.

I think FTTB and HFC parts of the NBN MTM are good ideas and can be rolled out much more quickly and cheaply. FTTN is the worry - sure it will work for some but others further from the node will be left with the future equivalent of a RIM

Actually if the LNP and Malcolm Turnbull didn't stuff the NBN, I would have FTTP now but instead I don't even have a date for a coughpy HFC connection. Now we have the absurd situation of the NBN trying to change the coax cable to a thicker cable would mean electricity providers would have to replace some poles due to the extra strain.

 

[whatmeworry]

Hopefully the new communications minister will do a better job on the NBN.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Hopefully the new communications minister will do a better job on the NBN.

Unlikely if they stick to the silly FTTN plan. It's not 'proper' infrastructure after all.

 

[james4321]

Unlikely if they stick to the silly FTTN plan. It's not 'proper' infrastructure after all.

It will be very interesting to see what PM Turnbull will do about the NBN. Maybe he will go back to the original plan?

 

[whatmeworry]

It will be very interesting to see what PM Turnbull will do about the NBN. Maybe he will go back to the original plan?

Malcolm is a flip flopper on policy. He backed the plan to build subs in Adelaide despite it being cheaper to build overseas but then guts the FTTP because he and the LNP miscalculated that the MTM would be significantly cheaper. Just another fiscal mismanaging populist.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Actually if the LNP and Malcolm Turnbull didn't stuff the NBN, I would have FTTP now but instead I don't even have a date for a coughpy HFC connection. Now we have the absurd situation of the NBN trying to change the coax cable to a thicker cable would mean electricity providers would have to replace some poles due to the extra strain.

Your bias is showing somewhat.

The NBN was well behind and well over budget long before it was inherited, and, as with most policies of that government, the budget was grossly underestimated.

Where did you come up with this HFC fiction? The current HFC cabling will support far in excess of 1Gbps. And as for 'coughpy', HFC provides high speed broadband to a large proportion of the world, including the U.S., who enjoy some of the fastest and cheapest internet in the world.

 

[eastwest101]

It will be very interesting to see what PM Turnbull will do about the NBN. Maybe he will go back to the original plan?

What - ask Stephen Conroy for his un-costed beer coaster scribblings? I would give Turnbull a little more credit than that.