NBN Discussion

[ajw373]

(As an aside, when did "kerb" become "curb"?)

When you have an American as CEO.

Though in all seriousness, not that I like it myself, language and spelling evolves, and sadly even here in Aus we are evolving to the more US was of spelling on many words.

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

one of the advantages of working for a telco is the fast WiFi at work.

Just downloaded the creators update for Win 10. Most of the time the download was humming along at 120mbs, sometimes peaking at 250mbs.

Instead of taking the best part of an hour on my clunky home ADSL the download took <5min to download.

I'm hoping I'll get FTTC instead of FTTN next year.

 

[DC3]

Of possible interest:

NBN shakes up the Multi-Technology Mix with more fibre to the curb

(As an aside, when did "kerb" become "curb"?)

.. as in curb your fibre?

 

[whatmeworry]

When you have an American as CEO.

Though in all seriousness, not that I like it myself, language and spelling evolves, and sadly even here in Aus we are evolving to the more US was of spelling on many words.

I go to a shopping centre not a mall and kids go to an end of year formal not a bloody Prom.

But yes back to the NBN, FTTC is only a couple of hundred dollars more then FTTN. So hopefully when the NBN has to retrofitted in ~10years it won't cost too many billions. I fear those in the Bush FTTN might never get upgraded. Especially if the NBN is privatised.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Of possible interest:

NBN shakes up the Multi-Technology Mix with more fibre to the curb

(As an aside, when did "kerb" become "curb"?)

When the NBN was taken over by people trained in the US.. You'd think Malcolm could get one thing right.

 

[ajw373]

I go to a shopping centre not a mall and kids go to an end of year formal not a bloody Prom.

But yes back to the NBN, FTTC is only a couple of hundred dollars more then FTTN. So hopefully when the NBN has to retrofitted in ~10years it won't cost too many billions. I fear those in the Bush FTTN might never get upgraded. Especially if the NBN is privatised.

My local shopping centre (or is it center using US spelling?) has been called the Mall since it open in 1978/79! Never heard that one being considered so yank. It does of course trace its origins back to the Anglo/French game Pall-mall. And of course prom has it's origins in débutante balls, prom meaning to promenade. Both of which can be traced to Ireland, along with the all American tradition of Halloween too. Bloody Irish, stuffing up the Queen English! As I said language and spelling evolve rightly or wrongly.

But yeah getting back to NBN, bush FTTN? Most real bush places are actually getting WiFi. In towns as much chance of FTTN being upgraded there compared to the city. The only real way NBN should be rolling out is FTTP. Afterall it was meant to be an infrastructure upgrade/project, not specifically upgrading ADSL.

 

[ajw373]

When the NBN was taken over by people trained in the US.. You'd think Malcolm could get one thing right.

Well he did. He is following the political game perfectly. Though had thought it was a political parties roll to sell their policies and for the public service to carry them out. Though seems to be with Mr Morrow the line is blurred somewhat as he does a lot of selling that should be political.

 

[travelislife]

The person I was responding to was also new build but your right new build does open up a lot of opportunity.

Re your NBN you should get it a lot sooner delivered over your Telstra cable. So really not much difference to you except being able to choose a different service provider and if you want a 'landline' having that delivered over NBN.

My wifi system though is not a bad option even for established houses. With Ubiquiti you can just buy the access point, costs start at around $150, then connect that to you NTD and away you go. In my case I also have a raspberry Pi as a controller but that doesn't need to be on 24x7 unless you doing guest control and the like.

Again my case I also have a switch and a second access point so my wifi investment was closer to $500 so about double the cost of a reasonable wifi router.

Hi @ajw373, I might send you a PM if that's alright. I am about to commence a new house build and have specified a lot of CAT6/TV points terminating back to a central cupboard but would be interested in maybe running the intent by you considering you have lived with it. I am lucky in that I have Fibre to the Home, so will run the fibre in to my internal cupboard where I will have a switch with everything terminating.

 

[ajw373]

Not a problem at all. Happy to offer some advice.

 

[hummel]

Hi @ajw373, I might send you a PM if that's alright. I am about to commence a new house build and have specified a lot of CAT6/TV points terminating back to a central cupboard but would be interested in maybe running the intent by you considering you have lived with it. I am lucky in that I have Fibre to the Home, so will run the fibre in to my internal cupboard where I will have a switch with everything terminating.

spacebar

I have FTTH as well and after being here 12+ months only just realised they had a cabled 2 x CAT 6 points to the living room! Now getting 80mbit/s through the android box

Shame they didn't wire the rest of the house as wifi can be a little unreliable outside on the deck.

 

[jb747]

And the NBN saga goes on. And on. And on. If you have choice, don't do it. I'm now dreaming of home ADSL1.

NBN co are impossible to deal with. Even the ISP can't understand what they are doing.

 

[moa999]

NBN co are impossible to deal with. Even the ISP can't understand what they are doing.

Feel for you jb747.
Have they sent out another technician at all?

I assume (somewhat unfortunately) that your RSP contract required you to sign away rights to CSG payments for phone service interruptions (this seems standard with everyone bar Telstra)

 

[jb747]

Feel for you jb747.
Have they sent out another technician at all?

I assume (somewhat unfortunately) that your RSP contract required you to sign away rights to CSG payments for phone service interruptions (this seems standard with everyone bar Telstra)

The RSP is redirecting phone calls to a mobile.

The issue seems to be that they've decided that the run to my house is too long, so basically no NBN for me. Nor for that matter, anyone else in my street. They've never even attempted to connect it to find out. According to the web sites that calculate such things, my run should achieve about 40meg/sec, so something is rotten somewhere.

So, no way to get back to DSL, and no way forward. What was that about 'better, sooner, etc'?

 

[straitman]

I just looked and NBN is now available in our area.



The catch: Further work is required to connect to our house :!:

We are now told we 'MAY' be NBN ready on 12th May but nobody really knows.

We are fortunate though as unlike jb747 we have a reasonable ADSL2 connection.

 

[Buzzard]

We don't even have a gas pipe up our street (can rent cylinders) so I'm not hopefull of getting NBN anytime soon.

 

[Quickstatus]

We don't have town gas, we don't have sewerage.
Even Pizza Hut won't deliver to us - their delivery boundary is at the start of my street.
Taxis don't come either unless going to airport
We don't get Halloween trick or treat either as the density of houses in my area is too sparse meaning that the Lolly returns are too low for all that walking.
The parcel delivery guy does not deliver the parcel - just a card that says "sorry you weren't home". I've even been given the card by the delivery guy.

ADSL 1-3

Due for NBN wifi who knows when

 

[TheRealTMA]

The RSP is redirecting phone calls to a mobile.

The issue seems to be that they've decided that the run to my house is too long, so basically no NBN for me. Nor for that matter, anyone else in my street. They've never even attempted to connect it to find out. According to the web sites that calculate such things, my run should achieve about 40meg/sec, so something is rotten somewhere.

So, no way to get back to DSL, and no way forward. What was that about 'better, sooner, etc'?

JB, just a question, can you 'pay' to have the FTTH connected from the main trunk to your premises at your cost ? And if so, what would be the cost?

 

[whatmeworry]

JB, just a question, can you 'pay' to have the FTTH connected from the main trunk to your premises at your cost ? And if so, what would be the cost?

Somebody on reddit, asked for a quote for FTTP. They were quoted 70k. NBN doesn't do things cheap for one connection.

 

[moa999]

Cost of FTTP would be dependent on distance. If NBN is saying jb747s FTTN is too slow that means he's likely 1+km from the node (nearest fibre) and possibly even further from where they would need to actually connect. So not cheap.

You need to jump through hoops to even get a quote (and pay 2x $300 fees) but those that have done it on Whirlpool have got $10-30k

Hopefully for jb747 the resolution is FTTC or a closer node FTTN, although I guess a risk that he might be reallocated as FW or Sat

 

[jb747]

It's worth noting that I'm with a suburban area, and according to Telstra the line length is 726 m. The entire street is still listed as available on the NBN site, so I really wonder is it's almost a case of generating fraudulent availability numbers for the government.