NBN Discussion

[coriander]

4 lines is harder - certainly you won't get four HFC cables. Telstra Business/ DOT will have a likely expensive solution.

Key question - do you currently have a PABX and do you want to keep it, and are you happy to replace handsets.

Note that you will want a good router that can do QoS (quality of service) as the 150Kbps of TC-1 that NBN provide won't support 4 voice lines, so it will have to go as mixed traffic - albeit with such a coughpy ADSL service I suspect you don't use the internet a great deal.

Phone system is 4-line 6-handset Commander system with Nortel handsets we put in about 18 months ago when our Commander BN system melted down (literally!). I have absolutely no idea whether it's VOIP ready. I suppose we'll need to move to an all-VOIP solution in the next 12 months. We don't stream movies at work, mostly email and web, most medical records are text or PDF but radiographs in Dicom images do take an hour or so and there's more of them out there nowadays.

 

[ajw373]

I rang Telstra on 1800993728 . Sales guy says 1 VoIP number per NBN account.
A possible workaround is as I suggest above but then use a VoIP service as suggested above by moa999
As to whether you can keep/port number I don't know

Sales guy is right for residential (and even the only because Telstra being drop kicks) but wrong for business. Telstra has business NBN solutions that have mulitiple lines including for faxes and EFTPOs.

There are also companies that will sell you (and hopefully allow you to port you existing rotary number) a service with multiple VoIP lines. So in these casss all you need is your internet connection from who ever via HFC and then VoIP from someone else.

To go into a commander you would need a terminal adaptor of some sort to convert IP to analogue or even better replace the commander with an ip solution.

 

[Quickstatus]

Most recent PABX are NBN ready / VoIP ready and just requires a visit from your pabx installer plus a bit of an upgrade using exisiting equipment

 

[coriander]

......... even better replace the commander with an ip solution.

Mmmm.... probably that's the way to go. Noob question: do VOIP phones use existing cabling inside building (ie 25-pair cabling in conduits - a 40 year hangover from prehistoric 2 bar 6 system) or do we need to put in Cat5/6 (not trivial as building is solid brick / concrete slab).

 

[Quickstatus]

Mmmm.... probably that's the way to go. Noob question: do VOIP phones use existing cabling inside building (ie 25-pair cabling in conduits - a 40 year hangover from prehistoric 2 bar 6 system) or do we need to put in Cat6 (not trivial as building is solid brick / concrete slab).

VoIP phones just need Cat5 and I think power over ethernet

 

[ajw373]

Mmmm.... probably that's the way to go. Noob question: do VOIP phones use existing cabling inside building (ie 25-pair cabling in conduits - a 40 year hangover from prehistoric 2 bar 6 system) or do we need to put in Cat5/6 (not trivial as building is solid brick / concrete slab).

Ip phones need data cable so cat5/6. That said many phone systems can support ip trunks, but 2 wire a Analogue or proprietary digital to the handset. So really depends on your requirement. And just noticed you said you toelaced 18 months ago so yours could well be up trunk capable.

 

[Scr77]

Nbn with iinet has been out all day for Central Victoria. It happens every second month and has become such a joke that I considered posting this in the humor thread!

 

[RB]

Nbn with iinet has been out all day for Central Victoria. It happens every second month and has become such a joke that I considered posting this in the humor thread!

Haven't got to NBN in our neck of the woods yet but iiNet are seriously testing my loyalty. Started with Netspace over 12 yrs ago & the change to iiNet seems to have led to a drop in service

 

[Quickstatus]

Nbn with iinet has been out all day for Central Victoria. It happens every second month and has become such a joke that I considered posting this in the humor thread!

whirlpool forums suggest that iinet is not a particularly good RSP.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Checked on NBN Co. Looks like it is now available.

Might wait a month or 2 before taking the plunge, see if they iron out and kinks.

Has anyone used ISP - Telecube ??? They seem to be getting some good reviews on Whirlpool.

I'm currently with MyNetFone, their customer service is s*** h****........

 

[Quickstatus]

Checked on NBN Co. Looks like it is now available.

Might wait a month or 2 before taking the plunge, see if they iron out and kinks.

Has anyone used ISP - Telecube ??? They seem to be getting some good reviews on Whirlpool.

I'm currently with MyNetFone, their customer service is s*** h****........

Not heard much about Telecube. I've heard sky mesh and aussiebroadband have been good according to whirlpool forums

I think any RSP which offers unlimited Netflix will suffer from lots of contention.
Bear in mind that the pricing model is no longer how much gigabytes you download but the speed at which you are provisioned. Generally all things being equal the cheaper the price the more severe the effects of contention.

This is a good article about nbn pricing. the CVC$$ has reduced a bit since the article date but its still valid
http://tektel.com.au/nbn-pricing-explained/

 

[Scr77]

whirlpool forums suggest that iinet is not a particularly good RSP.

Agreed. Was originally with Ozemail and iiNet brought them years ago. They were great but have gone to the dogs since TPG brought iiNet. Converted many people to iinet in the early years, now tell friends to avoid at all costs.

 

[decs]

I have been with Telecube since 1st March and have been extremely happy. Skymesh are having some issues only of late as can be read on whirlpool. Telecube were having trouble with Vocus particularly in QLD re slow response to congestion but they've now signed up with Wideband (Aussie Broadband's corporate arm) for backhaul to POIs as an alternative to Vocus.

I have dual stack IPv4/IPv6 and can max my 50/20 plan even during peak periods at night. International speeds are decent too, haven't had issue there. Their customer service is top notch and very responsive. Optus, Belong etc are all now distant memories.

If you check on whirlpool you can get 10% off the website plans and free setup (all plans are month to month, prepaid, cancel up to 3 days prior to roll-over). There is a new WP offer expected later this week too.

 

[whatmeworry]

Still from NBN propaganda video. Notice the ping.

NBN misleading us why they can't do FTTP to the near majority of homes.

In a recent blog, NBN Co attempts to justify why it is rolling out fibre to the node (FTTN) rather than fibre to the premises (FTTP). NBN Co says that FTTP is too expensive for Australia, claiming that Australia is not on a level playing field with other countries that have FTTP. But NBN Co's commentary is misleading, and omits a number of key facts. A more careful and accurate examination of the facts shows that Australia is indeed comparable with other countries that have chosen FTTP.
[h=3]Population density[/h] NBN Co says that Australia's low population density is at the core of the problem. It correctly points out that Hong Kong, Tokyo, Singapore and Seoul have higher population densities, but goes on to compare the population density of Singapore with the average population density of the whole of Australia. NBN Co fails to mention that 90 per cent of Australians — those people originally targeted with FTTP under Labor's NBN — are in cities and towns with relatively high population densities.

Why NBN Co's justifications for not rolling out fibre to the premises are misleading

 

[drsmithy]

Still from NBN propaganda video. Notice the ping.

Probably a satellite connection.

 

[moa999]

Why NBN Co's justifications for not rolling out fibre to the premises are misleading

All depends on density.
While it is true that Australia has a high proportion of the population in cities/towns, the density of those areas is relatively low on a global scale (thanks to our fixation with quarter acre or larger blocks)

 

[Quickstatus]

Microtrenching:
Fiber Optic Installation By Microtrenching

 

[whatmeworry]

Probably a satellite connection.

Still not something you want to brag about.

 

[drsmithy]

All depends on density.
While it is true that Australia has a high proportion of the population in cities/towns, the density of those areas is relatively low on a global scale (thanks to our fixation with quarter acre or larger blocks)

Say what now ? Even here in Brisbane, the median lot size is under 500m^2 (less than 1/8th of an acre), and it's one of, if not the, highest in the country.

The quarter-acre block pretty much went out with flares.

 

[straitman]

A while ago I posted here when we were to get out NBN connection. Since then I have posted several updates.
I'm simply not going to bother any more.
I'll let you all know IF/when it occurs:!: ðŸ