NBN Discussion

[moa999]

I'd say if you had 8 into a hub tower it would be quickly upgraded to 10Gbps (a relatively simple card upgrade)

But yes in any system there are potential pinch points.

Even if you had sufficient CVC, if everyone decided to hit a particular US server you'd probably overwhelm International transit

 

[Quickstatus]

I'd say if you had 8 into a hub tower it would be quickly upgraded to 10Gbps (a relatively simple card upgrade)

But yes in any system there are potential pinch points.

Even if you had sufficient CVC, if everyone decided to hit a particular US server you'd probably overwhelm International transit

I suspect NBNCo will not attend to these until after 2020 and then only when the tower is totally congested.. Its remit is not to fix problems though the pressure is on.

 

[moa999]

I suspect they are more likely to attend to a simple solution which will improve speeds for 100s than for one

(Eg. Those stuck in coughpy long lined FTTN copper)

 

[Quickstatus]

I suspect they are more likely to attend to a simple solution which will improve speeds for 100s than for one

(Eg. Those stuck in coughpy long lined FTTN copper)

Yes FTTN planned sites might be converted to FTTC if the planning and build not yet set in stone.

 

[marki]

Foxtel NBN bundles with Foxtel anybody has an opinion as to quality of the product.

 

[Quickstatus]

Elevation profiles from the 2 closest (planned , not yet built) NBN FW towers to my place:

Top of my roof is 207m (ground + 10m) which makes my FW antenna about the same height as the base of each tower - at most the antenna will be +210m elevation (if they use a +3m mast - its either a 1m or 3m mast)
Closest tower is apparently +245m elevation
2nd tower is apparently +248m elevation

Hopefully NBN connects me to the first tower

Closest 1.2km heading 242[SUP]0 [/SUP]to my place


2nd tower is 2.6km heading 296[SUP]0 [/SUP]to my place


However my phone 4G reception is 1-2 bars. The 4G tower is 1km and heading 196[SUP]0[/SUP] to my place (and involves trees in the line of sight) and the elevation profile is:

 

[marki]

I have taken the plunge ...... signed up with Telstra NBN ...... Having FTTB this should be fast. Interesting bit though was the option of a Frontier Modem with 4G inbuilt as a back up in case it all falls over and it counts as normal home usage.

 

[moa999]

Definitely hope you get #1 Quickstatus

Markoli,
The Frontier looks like an impressive unit
https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/extras/frontier

And definitely worth the upgrade $s over the basic version

 

[marki]

Definitely hope you get #1 Quickstatus

Markoli,
The Frontier looks like an impressive unit
https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/extras/frontier

And definitely worth the upgrade $s over the basic version

Because I am re- negotiating my internet it should be about 9$ per month over term of the contract ( 24 months).
Apparently it switches over automatically when connection drops but your IP changes necessitating a need to re- login to websites that were being browsed.

Also they limited it to 6Mbps down and 1 Mbps up

But this at least keeps you connected ....

 

[Quickstatus]

There are others which give you 4G backup
example : Synology Rt2600AC

you can connect a phone with 4G to it.

But it's not a modem - just a wifi router

 

[DeKa]

Vodafone NBN will have a similar 4G backup - and you can use it from the time you sign up even if the underlying NBN isn't working
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/08/...ne-nbn-plan-youll-have-internet-from-day-one/

 

[Quickstatus]

The 4G backup comes at additional cost built into plan. Telstra' version can be used for adsl as well. i suppose it's a form of insurance

 

[jb747]

The 4G backup comes at additional cost built into plan. Telstra' version can be used for adsl as well. i suppose it's a form of insurance

All FTTN (VDSL) modems can do ADSL. One is a form of the other.

I used one of these modems at a B&B a couple of weeks ago. It's a surprisingly large unit...looks more like a game controller than a modem. Standard Telsta admin interface, which seemed to be quite dumbed down (yes the B&B hadn't changed the default passwords).

 

[Quickstatus]

Yes if you signed up for adsl now with Telstra you get the same gateway NBN modem.

Vdsl is essentially adsl but at higher frequency because the copper length is shorter to node instead of exchange

I now have crippled adsl.
0.05 Mbps for 5 days now

 

[jb747]

....
But it's not a modem - just a wifi router

I wish Ubiquiti would do a modem. I've got a Netcomm (and a Fritz, and a DLink), and I only use the modem function. Everything else is passed to my Ubiquiti gear. The difference between relatively cheap, but commercial, gear, and consumer wifi/routers is huge.

 

[Quickstatus]

I've unsuccessfully looked too for a "more than consumer" modem. My adsl is very unstable at best. Several modem restarts required a month
dont know if its 1 year old netgear modem or the coughpy copper. Most likely street end

2 years to NBN FW or $1800/month now for a 1:1 contention 50/50 nonNbn FW

 

[jb747]

Even amongst the consumer grade modems, I found quite a bit of difference.

There was a DLiink that ended up in the bin. I retired a Netgear D7000 because it was so unstable. Fritzbox 7490 was initially problematic, but improved out of sight with a later firmware update. I'm currently using a Netcomm with the NBN, because that was supplied pre set up by the ISP, though when I get a chance I'm going to copy the settings to the Fritz and see if there's any difference in connection speed.

According to some, having a modem with the same chipset brand as used by the comms provider improves things. I think Telstra DSL was showing as Broadcom.

There's some discussion about sync speeds in this comparison. https://www.finder.com.au/fttn-nbn-router-comparison

 

[Quickstatus]

Mine is a Netcomm d6400

 

[moa999]

Broadcom chipsets are definitely the recommended for long ADSL lines.
For ADSL2 - The $40 TPLink TD-W8960N is a viewed as a good unit, and you can bridge it to a better Router that will be all you need when the NBN comes along (or even to current D6400)

The Asus RT-AC68U and 88U and Netgear R7000 seem to be the current router picks amongst the Whirlpool folk

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That said the Netgear D6400 does seem to be a Broadcom chipset so it may just be bad copper.
https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Netgear_D6400

Note also that the internal wiring steps that are more critical for FTTN
- Single wire, single point, no splits, filters or alarms
Will reportedly also make a difference on ADSL - so removing any unused ports etc can make a difference

 

[Quickstatus]

Note also that the internal wiring steps that are more critical for FTTN
- Single wire, single point, no splits, filters or alarms
Will reportedly also make a difference on ADSL - so removing any unused ports etc can make a difference

yes more critical for any last mile" copper transit technology if delivery is at the margins

everytime I ring up bigpond tech support, I tell them:


Me:
"I have 2 phone lines
The ADSL modem is connected to one phone line
No filters
No splitters
No B2B alarm
No phone
No fax
No other device
The only thing connected to the phone socket is ADSL modem".....

Filipino pretending to be in Oz:
"...What about a phone..."

Me:
"As I said nothing is connected to the phone socket"




ADSL now improved to 1.2/0.1
Tech guy coming on monday